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Yes fully agree and yes i can see Fury being a spoiler but he'd get nailed before he does any nailing or dragged it into late rounds. He's a hard lad though so he might get up but i doubt it although there's no forgone conclusions with heavyweights, one punch and all that.
I think Wilder would be the man to upset the AJ applecart if anyone does and that's the biggest test out there for either one. David Haye in top form probably beats them both but not sure if he's that much left to be honest.
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Fury is 'awkward' like one of those physical, tenacious strikers like Dickov. AJ looks classy, but every opponent gets slapped so you still don't know if he can survive a fast, vicious fight like those Gatti vs. Ward fights..
My point on this with Fury is he wouldn't get away with the way he fought 39 year old over cautious Klitschko when fighting the likes of Wilder and joshua. Younger, far quicker, throw long jabs and combinations whereas in many was Wlad was tailor made for Fury. Everyone has a nemises, i think Mike Tyson at his best could have blown away most top heavyweights in history over the first 5 rounds or so but i think he would always have had problems with Holyfield whenever they might have met.
When Klitschko fought Haye he chased him all over the ring for 12 rounds yet the guy could only shuffle after Fury, too busy keeping his paws up. Iv's seen Joshua live a few times and he's quick and so are his feet and for a big guy he can also work some angles. Different kinds of fights and in these Fury would have to trade and he would get tagged no doubt. He won the title fight fair and square in the ring despite suspicions about what he may have used to get himself in that shape but before that he'd shown me nothing exceptional at all and having seen him in the flesh a few times it'll take 12 months to get him in that shape again.
He's the one with it all to prove.
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Considering his past career i thought Mike Duxbury was crap at Rovers he definitely played like a dingle in blue and white. Can't recall if he was just on loan or on a contract.
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Closely followed by Hendry before his move to Citeh.
Own goal v Oxford, a bit more convincing than Duffys 3 efforts though
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Agree with one or two others on Perez i thought he was class and his heart was in it. Just didn't seem to work out for him but no wonder when we've seen Hodgsons round pegs for square holes approach numerous times in different jobs since.
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Probably not the worst he had a fantastic pedigree and was only on loan but Dino Baggio, the man who came off the pitch every week with his shirt and shorts almost cleaner and crisper than when he went on.
We go on about agents these days, quite rightly but for a period back then particularly the Hodgson, Souness eras they must have had a field day.
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Ferguson was not a poor player but he shafted us royally.
Land deals as well
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Sunk without much trace once the 4 year 20k pwk contract someone at Rovers gave him had gone to his head and his stomach. Still only 32 now, he's either another waste of talent or a guy who got very lucky
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Actually iv'e just seen another shocker pop up on Rovers twitter account, Maceo Rigters ! Even Hughsey dropped the odd clanger and i remember there being a lot of raised eyebrows about how he got here and the wage he was on.
Watched him for the 2nd string a few times and he really was pants.
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I was going to mention 'the train' lol apart from being quick in full flow and that goal v Everton lets face it he was crap !
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You've got to weigh it all up really when deciding and most of the current lot aren't very good but never have been and we don't expect them to be. Yes a good few should be better but they wouldn't be here under the current charade if they were any good.
Not making excuses for them but some of the trash we've paid money for and some who've come with reputation on Prem wages then taken the p$sh certainly deserve first place in the worst player stakes. 4.5 million for Ward .......
Then you get people like Duffy and Orr who must be along the lines of the biggest chunts every to play for the club and i'm not talking about limited ability i'm talking about contribution and influence, bad apples.
The Peterborough game and the Cardiff/Wigan/Preston games will live in the memory for ever and i can't quuite think of any others who've blatantly taken the whizz like this pair.
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Fettis played a few though i'm sure, certainly enough to qualify as useless
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I remember getting strips torn off me for bashing Matteo back in the day.
Did we sign Harkness as well ? He was as bad.
Was it De Pedro Or Del Pedro ?
Yes i think that was him, Javi De Pedro or something. Came with a bit of bluster and supposed flying winger but absolutely useless and no interested from the off. I think when Souness was winding down at Rovers he was signing some crap on purpose to try and make a point.
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Fettis
Orr Peacock Duffy Matteo
Feeney Murphy Frandsen So crap i forget his name, Souness signing think.
Ward Brown
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I think the big problem we have is January. With Emnes and Gallagher likely to go back to their clubs and Marshall sold, what then? We are bad
enough with them, so will be worse without them. Yes there could be new faces coming in, but even if there are, what will the quality of those be?
Lesser.
I'm sure Coyle would jump at keeping the pair of them but when Saints/Swansea ask he'll tell them i have to ask India. The slasha will don his briefcase jump on a plane then not be seen or heard of again till Feb. Meanwhile the only phone switched on in Pune towers will be the one marked outgoing sales which gets answered after 2 rings
'ah Mr Marshalls agent, yes that's fine tell him thankyou and goodbye '
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Cracking nights boxing so glad i went and added bonus of not phone signal in there so i didn't know score till after midnight
That Chisora v Whtye was and absolute cracker, rarely do fights live up to the overhype nonsense and so called bad blood that SKY foists upon us for virtually every match up these days but this one delivered. Neither was giving an inch and i'm sure would've carried on until one just dropped. Top stuff and to think i thought their rivalry was fake !
Del boy robbed though and whilst i think Hearn is a great promoter the number of stinks around his fight results are now getting beyond suspicion. In a fight that that when there is no belt on the line and the judges find it hard they shouldn't be under pressure for a winner they should be comfortable calling a draw. Then when Hearn comes out and says Whyte is lined up for Wilder it whiffs even more.
Great to see Quigg back again and putting on a performance that was sadly missing v Frampton, unlucky for Blackledge but he was always going to be outclassed. Didn't let anyone down and he's tough lad but that brutal ko which came because he was knackered won't do him any favours.
AJ did what was expected and everyone slagging him needs to remember that was just his 18th pro fight and if the chance of a beatable guy with a belt hadn't dropped in his lap then he'd still be fighting guys like Molina as part of his development. Hearn is doing it right with him and for me and now Wlad is primed for the taking. Won't be easy but his effort or lack of it v Fury showed he's on the wane, he won't trade with Aj and he won't take those shots although i'd never rule him out. Point is though by the time they fight he'll have been out 18 months and be about 41, all that balances it out somewhat,
After seeing Fury again last night and him and his crews usual antics he remains a first class tit. Must be 25 stone and shuffled in and out looking almost embarrassed before talking crap on twitter again. Finished at that level i'd say, iv'e watched a lot of boxing and for me Joshua simply blows away ANY version of Fury.
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Giles Barnes is crap and it's another jobs for the boys if they throw a full time contract his way but of course the fat hack will be preaching him as a good signing like he was pre season. The fat hack who sings from inside a certain camp, more fool those who lap him up.
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The one thing you can say in Lowes defense is he's never worked for a decent manager and i feel he's never been coached or used in a role that best suits him. Not saying he'd be any good but for me the best way to use him is as a pressuring midfielder like a poor mans Robbie Savage.
Bowyer tried to use him like Tugay sat infront of the back four but his football ability and passing isn't up to it and i've never rated him at RB but you'll get away with it some weeks in this league.
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Haye v Bellew confirmed for March, can't wait for that. All the hallmarks of a mismatch with Bellew stepping up to heavy but it'll be explosive and he can bang.
Don't blink or you'll miss it.
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Maybe it's just that Novak has peaked and now flattened out a bit whilst Murray has just reached his peak. As with most individual sports a lot of it is down to timing. Plus the psychological edge is now with Murray after beating him a few times he's now finally got Djokovic's number
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Another poor points verdict last night for a home based fighter from the 3 home based judges. That simply shouldn't be allowed at that level of boxing with what's at stake. Thought Kovalev fought a great fight again Ward who's difficult to hit and counters quick and clean but looks to have no real power at that weight.
Never seen him knocked about like that before but he won a few rounds as well. At the very least it should have been a draw.
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Good fight tonight between Swifty Smith and Sosa but it seems that particular Smith is going to follow big bro Paul as a nearly man. Just not quite good enough at top level .
Less said about Malik Scott and Luis Ortiz, Scott should be sacked for that. Think he took a leaf out of Furys book by prancing around the ring pulling faces except he wasn't very good at it and fell over his own feet about 4 times. Shame we couldn't really see what Ortiz has but from what I've seen so far I think he might just be a guy who'll give AJ a few probs.
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Looks like local lad and alleged Rovers fan Luke Blackledge will fight Smith for a shot at his title on the undercard of Joshua in Manchester Dec 10th.
Hope it gets done and fair play to Blackledge for getting into position and the Smith mod for giving him a shot if it comes off. Hope he can do it justice although there is only one winner there I feel.
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So Pacmans back and strolls his way to another comfortable victory whilst Mayweather surfaces again. Think we can see what's coming again here, zzzzzz
Much rather see either of them fighting the likes of Khan, Brook etc but we know it's all about the $$$$ so they'll be in with each other again within the next 12 months probably. Same outcome, zzzzzz
[Archived] The Worst Ever Rovers Player?
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Posted · Edited by tomphil
Sean Curry now there was a turkey from what i remember, used to detest that guy. I vaguely remember going away to Bradford and seeing him put in what was probably the worst laziest performance i'd ever seen from a Rovers player up to that point. Even his own players were having a go at him.