Reminiscent of Chris Brown here. No goals v one red card. God knows what possesses people to sign players like that.

How quickly things change. With 13 minutes to go today we were dead and buried. Now although we could still go down its very much all to play for. With everyone apart from Brum displaying a certain amount of spirit I can see there being a number of twists and turns before we're done. I could quite easily see a side on the last day thinking they're safe with 20 mins to go, a couole of quick goals later and bang they're gone. Hope we end up on the right side of it.

1st useful thing he's ever done for us!

Glad to hear it Parson. I've thought for a long time that Tomlinson must surely be an improvement on Lowe and frankly I can't see how Raya could be any worse than Steele.

Hope everyone going thoroughly enjoys it and regardless of ability witnesses a team giving their all for the shirt.

It does seem odd that he's made such incredibly perceptive comments and basically hit the nail squarely on the head when presumably he can hardly have seen us play. I presume he knew he was getting the job before the Man Ure game. You wonder if his comments are based solely on what he saw during that 90 minutes or on the basis of some input from Lowe and Dunn because based solely on that game I'd be sat there rubbing my hands thinking everything was hunky dory.

Each to their own but I think its known I tegard that view as absolutely and utter nonsense. If you want to believe that to justify your non attendance or something like that fair enough but it's exactly the same Club it's been since 1875. We've just got poor owners. One day they'll l be gone and if we're still in existence we'll still be exactly the same Club then as well.

I do think thats incredibly harsh Stuart you say you're sick of giving people chances but unlike Coyle there are no obvious issues with his appointment per se.. Surely also the alternative to viving him a chance was sticking with Coyle until the end of the season. As Im convinced Coyle would have taken us down Id far rather give Mowbray a chance in comparison. You also ask what the players must be thinking. I'd imagine they're thinking "Thank God we've got rid of Coyle and his antiquated training methods, poor preparation and lack of tactical nous". If Mowbray gets them on the training ground and it is quickly apparent he has some idea how to set up a team to defend and to win a match, the players' ears will quickly prick up and they'll start to take notice regardless of whether he is a massive name or not Finally isn't it premature to be slagging him off for not having the right character or for not doing the things you want to see like dropping Lowe? He may very well have some of those characteristics or do many of the things you want!

Lambert?

No -one else seems to have mentioned this but might it not be a long term positive that Dunny is here learning the ropes under Mowbray? Right. Off to buy a new packet of straws.

Was thinking that he would have been particularly pleased with Coyle's departure. Don't know if he's any use or not but it appears Coyle wouldn't have considered him either way out of pettiness.

Thought according to you it doesn't matter who the manager is Gav. If that's the case why then does it not matter who the manager is but it does matter who his agent is? Lol.

He probably wouldn't have come for any less? At least on only an 18 month deal he is probably committed to the job for the full term of the contract and is not here for a quick pay day with one eye on the exit door before he even gets here like Lambert.

This. Disappointed at this stage but the new team might be able to come up with one or two tweaks and ideas that will keep us up this season. Memo to Tony: Might be an idea to bring a load of planks, some nails and a hammer and board our goal up.

Note tonight that Dean Rittenberg has been released by mutual consent. Haven't followed his career closely but he seems to have been been at the Club an awfully long time to never get a chance and be dumped. Do we need to be a lot more proactive in giving the youngsters a chance, and if they're not good enough having had that chance, cutting them adrift?

Bristol City 2-1 down v Sheffield Wednesday. Could be 9 straight defeats for them.

It's not as though being done over by agents is exclusive to the last 6 years though. It's as if we never signed the likes of Dahlin, Ward, Dailly, Peacock, Grabbi Amoruso Ferguson etc.

It might have been better if John "Dracula" Butcher had never seen the light of day but that's a different story. Lol.

It's a good job Paul Bradshaw isn't about these days, if the current regime had been in charge when Roger Jones was sold we'd have probably signed some no mark 30+ year old to replace him and Bradshaw would never have seen the light of day. Not for us anyway.

I think they both look quite promising if only we would give them a proper chance. I'd play Raya over Steele every day of the week personally.

Strange how opinions on players differ, I think he's pretty useless and equally as poor as Feeney.Yet we keep on signing **** poor players like that and denying academy lads or young signings a chance to prove themselves.

There's no great conspiracy. Kean was infinitely cheaper than Allardyce and Coyle is presumably prepared to do it a lot cheaper than Warnock would have been. The owners never learn it seems. However as has been correctly pointed out there's no benefit whatsoever to anyone in us doing badly, even if you subscribe to the theory we're deliberately being run for the benefit of agents.

Have to reiterate my comments about Darren Clarke really in the light of the way the singles went. The Americans putted far better than us generally and Justin Rose in particular will probably never putt as badly as that again. All that said I'd give Clarke 2/3 out of 10 for his selections. On the plus side it was as always a fantastic spectacle, arguably the best in the sporting world. The matches between Reed/Rory and Phil Mick/Sergio were the two best I've ever seen. I was at the Belfry in 1984 when Seve came back from 3 down to tie with a bang in form Tom Kite but this surpassed that. Mickelson chucked 10 birdies at Sergio and only got a half! Roll on 2 years time.

Europe chucked it away at the end of day 2 somewhat. Must say Darren Clarke's cocked up a number of his selections for me. Played his mate Lee Westwood again after he got thrashed on Friday and should have been left out, found a pairing made in heaven in Garcia and Cabrera Bello and unbelievably broke it up to pair Garcia with out of form Kaymer, ignored Chris Wood after he played particularly well in yesterday's foursomes, keeps playing Justin Rose who can't get the speed of the greens, and played Fitzpatrick who looked a bit overawed in the foursomes instead of fourballs and has now left him without much golf. The only thing that has worked for him is constantly playing another rookie Thomas Peters despite his opening morning thumping when he was let down by Westwood in the foursomes. The Belgian player has been outstanding.

Just had a look on Via gogo and tickets seem to be selling pretty fast. It's predicted they'll sell out today according to the site. Now you're talking!!!!