Excellent Lee, that's really helpful, thanks. I always hoped I was making a decent saving by buying a ST but never knew exactly how much. On the other end of the scale a lot of ST holders seem to believe they are being short changed. I would suggest that as a marketing tool it is very prominently marked up exactly how much each and every prospective ST holder will save when the new renewal packs go out.

Yes, but the cost of membership is already absorbed into the cost of a season ticket and that particular discount is not available to ST holders. It just adds to the perception amongst ST holders they may be being unfairly treated. Don't get me wrong,I'm all for the cheap offers. However I also think that ST holders need to have a much clearer idea of exactly how much they're saving.

Lee, (or anyone else) could you please tell me how many category A, B and C games there have been this year and the respective cost for JW upper central. I'll work it out and let everyone know how much I saved by getting a ST.

That's not strictly true is it, if you join the adult membership scheme you get a fiver off the Villa and Boro or Wigan games as well.

The Club insist this is certainly NOT the case although judging from JW's comments over the past few seasons at the Fans Forum it appears that this is a commonly held perception amongst ST holders. Without actually doing the maths I must admit that I am becoming increasingly concerned given that the average take is apparently only 13 quid per head AND most games appear to be available from 15 or 17 quid for adults. IMO the Club need to do a lot more to emphasise and quantify the financial advantage of a ST (assuming there is one) to dispel these sort of doubts.

I've read the thread and it's basically 18 pages of b******s with only the occasional thoughtful post. I notice you got branded flippin' (or similar) ignorant for your own well argued contribution. What's all this ridiculous infighting between the HJC and the HSFC all about? Like Life of Bryan really. "We're not the People's Front, We're The People's Front of Judea." Desperately sad. It's all summed neatly by one contributor who says he couldn't give a flying one about what happened at the the Ibrox disaster, then in the next breath they get affronted if anyone gently suggests it might be more sensible to try to "move on" from the terrrible events of Hillsborough.

Don't know about you bob, but I certainly manage to consume a couple (ahem) of sherbets if I watch an away game in the Pub. 10 quid/ 5 quid would be the right sort of level if we're genuinely trying to compete with the lure of the pub/box. It certainly isn't 30 quid/ 15 quid (90 quid for a family of 4) Unless Mum and Dad quaff a bottle of vintage champagne each at the Nag's Head!.

Why is it either of the Clubs' fault? Did the people for whom this has seemingly become an all consuming obsession not notice the clash of dates when the fixture list was published?

Interesting concept - but it would expose the Club to far more ridicule than you were worried about through the introduction of cheap ticket offers. Doubt it would work in practice, we may have a hard core of support but how many people would as a matter of principle agree to a 100% rise in price? Plus it would make the current pricing structure in JW upper central obsolete. Doubt I could justify over a grand for a seat up there every close season.

You may be right but the word "apathy" surely also extends to someone who has made a conscious decision to move to a location from where they will no longer be able to attend future games. Not a criticism per se, just a fact. It's odd how the most vociferous critics of the attendances / Blackburn Public(apart from SG ) are generally the ones who are not actually in the position where they have to make a choice as to whether to shell out season ticket money and/or make the effort to attend a game which is invariably televised anyway. It's the easiest thing in the world to sit back and criticise when it doesn't directly concern you.

I thought the fee for a "normal" Sky game was in the 600-700k region. It's less for a PPV but I thought it was quite a bit more than 160k.

So Liverpool fans are boycotting the game. Boo Hoo. What a shame. Heaven sent opportunity to restrict their allocation to one quarter of the Darwen End, reduce prices to a level that competes with watching it in the Pub and start the novel concept of trying to fill the ground with BLACKBURN fans for a big game. But as someone else said, we probably wouln't be able to see beyond the short term loss of revenue.

Looking at the fixtures again, Bolton should win at the weekend against Sunderland, as we will hopefully against Boro. They then have Boro away, we have Sunderland away. So the respective positions should be more or less unchanged at that stage. They then have a horrendous little run Man U (H) Liverpool (A) Chelsea (H) which may render their games in hand obsolete. If Arsenal beat Liverpool today however I can't see the Gooners failing to get 4th spot. All pointless speculation but hugely entertaining nonetheless.

Well jim wasn't happy about playing well and getting beaten at Spurs, he should be absolutely ecstatic about this one!. I suppose the last two games show that the oldest saying in football "Luck balances itself out over the course of a season" is still one of the truest. Don't want to complain about individual performances after a 2-0 win and with us 5th in the table. Just hope and trust that they will put it right against Boro. We won't get lucky 2 weeks running. I would say however that MGP looked far from fit and I really don't know why we need to risk him like this with Peter, Bentley and Emerton to call on as alternatives. Savage was far and away our best player yesterday. After that I thought Pongolle showed up as well as anyone. How it can be said that Dickov looked better on the basis of 8 minutes action (and touching the ball maybe twice) is mystifying. Bellamy was starved of service and therefore generally quiet but showed his class by coming up with the goods yet again. Onwards and upwards.

Very doubtful, the 22,000 attendance (which was excellent in the context of this season) probably had very little to do with the Spurs game but much more to do with the quid a kid scheme. I reckon it put 4,000 on the gate yesterday.

All to play for now. Chelsea 2 Spuds 1. (In injury time)

Chelsea 2 Spuds 1! Fantastic result for Rovers. Chelsea were all over Spuds first half and scored through Essien on 13 mins. Spuds never had a kick until Jenas scored an undeserved equaliser a minute before half time. In the second half it was a different story. Chelsea were sluggish and Jenas actually missed the best chance of the half when clean through after 78 mins. he late introduction of Duff sparked some life into Chelsea and Drogba missed a glorious chance to seal the points on 90 minutes, striking the inside of the post, Robinson getting the faintest of touches. All looked lost for Chelsea in terms of the 3 points then in the second minute of 3 minutes injury time, Duff and Gallas swapped passes on the left, Gallas cut in and unleashed an unstoppable shot into the right hand corner of the net from 25 yards. GAME ON!

Just noticed as well that Spuds play Chelsea and Arsenal play Liverpool this weekend. Perhaps all bets should be put on hold for seven days? Although it would be typical Rovers for Chelsea to beat Spuds and we then fail to beat Villa in the 5.15 game.

Very cute. tnr the "big" clubs have always got the decisions as long as I can remember. It's only when it's "big" club against "big" club the officials seem completely unaffected.

Mixed feelings, from the half hour mark until we scored our second we've completely dominated the game and probably not played better all season, yet as jim says playing well and losing is no good to anyone. Ultimately we've defended certain situations very poorly today and it's cost us. We also started slowly, Spurs were much sharper in the opening 15 minutes. The first goal whilst good play by Keane saw indifferent defending by 2 Rovers players. Prior to that we were the victim of an appalling decision by the linesman, Mido miscontrolled the ball and it went out for a Rovers throw, Todd the covering defender, was nowhere near the ball. The linesman inexplicably gave Spuds the throw but from that position there was no way Keane should have been allowed to score. For the second goal Emerton seemed to handle on the corner of the penalty area and without the benefit of replays, if deemed deliberate, it seemed as though it should have been a penalty straight up. The linesman bottled it and it looked as though we had earned a reprieve. Unfortunately though from the resultant free kick Friedel committed the keeper's cardinal sin of parrying the ball back into the six yard box instead of pushing it wide. No defenders were tracking back with Keane either and it was unfortunate the referee didn't spot the handball. To be fair no-one else round me did either until we saw the replays. At 2-0 down it looked to be game over but we retaliated quickly with a superb goal out of the blue. Superb run and cross from Bellamy, equally good finish from Pongolle. Up to that point the Frenchman had been having a bit of a mare, and was guilty of a shocking miss from two yards out a few minutes previously. After the goal however he looked a completely different player and showed enough in partnership with Bellamy to suggest he could become a real asset. We had dominated possession from the half hour mark onwards and the second half continued in much the same vein. I thought Reid unusually had a first half in which he could do little right, he was another player transformed in the second half and was excellent. The equaliser was well deserved and the roles were reversed from the first, excellent run and cross from Pongolle, super finish from Bellamy. At that stage it looked as if there would be only one team going on to win it, but we were undone by more poor defending. Gray got caught out initially but again we didn't defend the situation well as a team. After that deep down you suspected there wasn't going to be a sting in the tail for a third time. So we'll probably play a lot worse than that and win several times before the end of the season but realistically Champions League hopes would seem to be over. Can't believe anyone thought Emerton played well. He was awful but then again no different to what he's been for most of the last 3 seasons. I didn't think Bentley did quite as well as some people are suggesting either. Excellent in small flashes but not involved enough most of the time. Savage had another really good game, Gray was nowhere near as bad as people are suggesting. The main plus arising out of today was the potential partnership developing between Bellamy and Pongolle. And if we play as well as that for the remainder of the season we should be able to clinch a UEFA spot.

Eh? It's only a week since you said our UEFA chancs wouldn't be dead if we lost both the Arsenal and Spurs games. (Due to your pathological need to post immediately after me disagreeing with me. ) Tally ho, off down to London in an hour or so. COME ON YOU BLUES!

Hopefully gordon, if we qualify for the Champions League and he is on top line remuneration the "right clubs" will be veryfew and far between indeed. If Hughes wants to go anywhere else at any point he will of course do so, what we have to try and ensure is it's some while off yet and make sure we squeeze the approaching club until they squeal when it eventually does. Much too soon to be getting excited about this until the deal is actually done. But the signs are very encouraging. And I love his quotes about how the club have matched his ambitions so far. - keeping the Board on their toes. Also very encouraging that he sems to expect being in the market for top quality players in the summer. No more Matty Holmes's for us this summer hopefully.

For me there were 3 truly great games in the 70's, Plymouth, Boxing Day '77 but this ranks for me as arguably the finest Rovers performance in all the circumstances. We went to Bolton, who were riding high at the top of the table, midweek night match, and fought a ferocious rearguard action, for the majority of the game but then with about 15 minutes to go we swung a corner over, Bolton keeper Charlie Wright missed/dropped it and Faz turned the ball home from close range. The game was watched by an astonishing crowd of 33,309 for the time (old 3rd division.) At the end of the season Bolton were still comfortably champs and we heartbreakingly missed out on promotion by 2 points finishing 3rd. Heartbreaking because the very next season saw the introduction of 3 up 3 down! Funnily enough, never hear this epic encounter mentioned much. Anyone else there?

Looking it up in the record books the game (Feb 15th) wasn't as close to the end of the season as I thought. But it was the catalyst for a 15 game unbeaten run which didn't see us lose again until the third last game of the season. (That game was the 2nd in the sequence.) We pipped Plymouth to the Championship by one point. 60 to 59.

I'll be very upset if we throw away any realistic chance of winning by playing 4-5-1. Last week I didn't feel very optimistic about our chances. After beating Arsenal my view has changed somewhat. One thing is for sure Spurs aren't miles ahead of us as a team as some people on here would like to think. We'd already have plastered them all over Ewood at the start of the season had we had a competent striker playing in place of Kuqi. No prediction from me (as that worked last week ) but we MUST come away with at least a point.