That's exactly how I read it. Couldn't care less who Bohse supports. The only way you could realistically say things had "turned sour" is if the relationship between the Rovers Board and the Trustees had broken down. Which is certainly not the case from all available indications. The only genuine cause for concern would be if there is indeed a club "source" leaking damaging (and generally inacurate) rumours of this nature. Has the Tony Parkes "mole" resurfaced again?

A few points: The piece by Mihir Bose is a particularly sloppy piece of journalism. The 4m loss bit is particularly misleading, given that we actually recorded an operating profit. I'll bet many clubs would like to be in the same position. Given our overall record and current success on the pitch it's stretching things to te extreme to suggest that things have turned "sour" That much said, the article is much ado about nothing really.Rovers are probably the only one of Jack's businesses not to be a large profit maker so I have little doubt the club would be sold if but only if it was in the club's best interests By this the Trustees would have to be satisfied a) about the new owners long term intentions for the club and perhaps more pertiently The new buyers would have to have the ability to put in at least as much if not more bunce in than the trustees if required. I would imagine this would require them to have very deep pockets indeed. I know the trustees "only" currently choose to advance 3m per annum plus concessions to Rovers but that's only the half of it. Could the new buyers instantly find 10m to buy another Andy Cole if we were ever in danger of being relegated?. Could the new buyers inject 15 or 20m to keep us solvent if we were relegated? At the end of the day the Trustees are under a legal obligation to carry out Jack's wishes contained in the trust deed. Without knowing the exact terms we can be as certain as can be the deed requires them to act in the best interests of ALL the Walker businesses. I also think that people are confusing the wealth of the Walker family and the trust fund. As I understood it these are two separate things entirely. The family (most of which will be Fred) may or may not now be worth around 600m, although that figure will be sheer guesswork and probably includes an estimate as to the value of the Walker Companies. I understood Jack had set aside a separate fund(The trust fund) for the benefit of all the Walker businesses which was to be constantly supplemented by the profits from the businesses. So as for it being the case that the Trustees would be prepared to sell if a suitable buyer came along it's like '''big deal tell us something we don't know". There's a world of difference between that and being so desperate to off load they'll sell to anyone.

Great minds USA. I was also going to start a thread for this as one of my best 4 or 5 Rovers games. Huge gate for the time, huge travelling support. I was sat on the front row of the Nuttall Street with my dad and a friend of his who never usually went. Behind us we had some middle aged Plymouth fans who thoiught it hilarious to bellow "Bye Bye Blackburn" at us to the tune of "Bye Bye Blackbird" They weren't nearly so vociferous by the end. Plymouth had probably the hottest striking partnership outside the top flight, and probably better than some at top level in Bill Rafferty and a very young Paul Mariner. Accordingly the game began disastrously, 2 down after about 19 minutes then we even managed to miss a penalty. All seemed lost. On the stroke of half time Don Martin sidefooted home from close range to make it 1-2 and give us hope and in the 2nd half Mike "the rock" Hickman completely terrorised the Plymouth defence with a Shearer like performance to transform the game as we eventually ran out winners 5-2. The only game I've seen at Ewood to compare was the 4-2 Derby play off game. Unbelievable even now.

The only thing I can clearly remember from that great day was Jim Smith coming out from the tunnel and having to walk diagonally across the pitch to get to the dug out. He got a welcome from the crammed Rovers half of the Longsight like I've never seen before or since. Oh and coming out of the ground some greasy long haired Burnley oik about 14 or 15 years old old waited until my dad got in the car and then tried to kick me in the wotsits. He caught me sideways on with his shin across the thigh and it didn't hurt at all. He scarpered. I'd just turned 14 at the time. One of the best Rovers days ever.

Brilliant stuff bob. Not seen anything better anywhere nationally, let alone the LET.

Would you have bought a 6 game card at full face value in a fancy presentation box with maybe a signed team photo or something similar?

No it shouldn't, as long as the ST was more competitively priced per game than the individual/block ticket. (I still think that needs to be examined independently if the average take is only 13 quid per game) Fans can still look at the fixture list now and if the attractive fixtures fall at the end purchase on a match by match basis and/or only buy a half ST. As for the point about priority that could be determined by ST holders OR fans attending a minimum number of games easily checkable by applying a filter to the database. We have had the Ski Data technology in place for nearly 2 seasons now. Silly not to use it.

Thanks for that Paul, based on your informative model, and assuming JW"s figure is correct, I guess that shows that not only are we not shifting enough ST's we aren't shifting enough adult season tickets in particular. Back to to tnr's experience, I guess it's a moot point as to whether a discounted block ticket should be available but assuming ST holders/half ST holders do get a discount surely there could be no argument whatsoever against a block ticket card being available at full face value. That isn't even available let alone at a discount!

Sorry, I know that's the theory but how can that be the case in practice if the average take overall is only 13 quid per seat i.e. significantly less than the equivalent cost of the CHEAPEST adult season ticket? Unless of course the crowd is predominantly made up of juniors/ OAP'S An absolutely crucial issue for BRISA to take up with the club I would say, not adopt a "I can't be bothered doing the maths" stance.

Don't be silly Paul, that's a ridiculous response based on your personal animosity towards tnr. Why should he or anyone else pay an eleven game price fora 6 match ticket with the stadium one third empty?

You're right, it obviously helps, I just meant from the point of view of someone having already thought of this obvious possibility arising and putting the appropriate sliding scale system in force.

Errr....... obviously not if Paul's figure of the average take being 13 quid per seat is correct. And obviously there's no reason to believe it isn't. Assuming the figure is right i.e. 247 quid per season, then either season ticket holders are paying at least full whack if not more, or there are an enormous number of juniors/ OAP's bringing the average take figure down. I was under the impression that the cheapest adult ST was about 280 quid (Average c15 per game.And that there were only a limited number of those) I always thought most adult ST's weighed in about the 400 mark (average c21 per game) Mine in JW upper costs over 500. (average c26 per game) Junior ST's are 5 quid per game. So on tha basis of the 13 quid average there's as many of them sold as standard adult ST's at 21 per game? That can't be right surely?

I can fully appreciate the argument against a sliding scale seson ticket or half season ticket, if the reduction is directly proportionate there's little or no point in getting a seson ticket in July or a half season ticket at Christmas. Also in the case of the half season tickets from memory they were very good value originally. But in tnr's case if the club were prepared to meet halfway and knock something off the eleven game price then tnr (and many others) may be more inclined to make a purchase. The fact we've just beaten Arsenal to go 5th is surely irrelevant. It surely can't be that unforseeable that people at any stage might want to buy a ST or half ST late can it?

Looking at the games individually, if Bellamy stays fit, I would predict: Spurs away draw Villa home win Boro home win Sunderland away win Wigan home win Portsmouth away draw Liverpool home draw Birmingham away draw Chelsea home defeat Charlton away draw City home win Total 20 points and 63 finishing total. That's spooky. I didn't make my last two posts up to coincide, I really didn't. The worrying thing is you look at Arsenal's last eleven fixtures and normally you would expect them to win nine of them. Although that obviously doesn't work for them this season otherwise they wouldn't be where they are in the table.

It's frightening really. Looking at the fixtures you would expect us to win four out of the six home fixtures with anything from Liverpool or Chelski as a bonus. Whilst only Spurs out of the five away games doesn't immediately look to fall into the "eminently winnable" category. so 24 points it is then. Or knowing Rovers, 9 points from Spuds, Pool and Chelski. and hardly anything from the rest. At this stage I predict 20 more points (63) will be the Champions League mark.

1) No, but as I understand it you can get huge discounts with Virgin/most airlines by booking long enough in advance instead. 2) The Tesco option would be useless unless you wanted exactly the same order every week. As I said above the Watford chairman claimed on the radio at the weekend they were still actively pushing half season tickets on the basis tnr suggests and that they had shifted 500 in the previous seven days alone.

It's enough to make you weep isn't it!. How much do we pay our executive directors? half a million a year? Hence my idea above of "a champions league charge" (or similar) ticket to cover the remaining games. Doubt my idea, or yours, will be taken up though. They make far too much sense.

Because the Utd fan will only be there one game a season but the floating Rover might return several times that season and many times in the future. A pound is a bit of an extreme example to use for ManUre, prices wouldn't have to be that low.

The flip side to that argument is: How much do you make out of that City fan per season? 32 quid? If you attract a floating Rovers fan in for 12 quid , you may lose 20 quid on the City fan initially but if the Rovers floater comes three or four times the following season as a result you're well in pocket.

Problem with that is officially of course the club have to be seen to be completely opposed to all illegal broadcasts. I have to hold my hands up here and confess to being a bit hypocritical as I actually like watching a lot of the away games on the dodgy channels.

Good point. It's up to the Rovers to get that point across properly with their marketing. Especially with the newly self styled "Accrington Stanley Evening Telegraph" promoting Stanley's cause.

The point is the "what more can the club do?" argument doesn't wash anymore. We aren't doing very much at all different to what we've ever done. ie. offer the odd price promotion. Circumstances change all the time (as with the current foreign TV fad and in Rovers case demographics) and you have to react accordingly.

Another thing I would advocate is making a section of the ground cheap 10 quid pay on the turnstile on a first come first served basis. Left hand side of the darwen end ideally or possibly move the family stand and use the top of the Blackburn End for that purpose?

Similar scenario. Now chasing Champions League/UEFA spot.