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How can anyone know so soon?

No.

Feels a bit like the Millwall defeat. Poor performance, loss and injury issues that could easily lead to a poor run. @RevidgeBlue may see it as a blessing.

We surely need to wait until the end of the window which is only when good signings can possibly happen. Im not convinced from that reaction, we need 4 in, maybe 5. Striker, winger, left back, central midfielder for sure. We really could do with 2 wingers as none of the current lot are up to it. If anyones comes for Sigurdsson, Hedges or Dolan, welcome and take it.

Same answers. Nothing imminent, I hope so, we need it. Didnt seem different to any other time hes been asked.

Definitely need a midfielder with Tronstad now injured. Forshaw isnt the answer. And im guessing if Thomas Asante was the main target, its time to look elsewhere.

In fees, yes. Gueye was £1m and the others were 6 figure fees. This installment nonsense, are our incoming transfers not also in installments? We sold Wharton for £18m rising to £22m, the Szmodics for £9m, then Gallagher for £1m then the Raya £4-5m. Over £30m. And spent about £2m in fees. Incoming and outgoing all in installments.

Absolutely terrible performance and result to continue an embarassing record away at promoted sides. The attack again misfiring, just feels like a roulette of constanly changing players who arent good enough. Gueye did a couple of bits of hold up but in the main ineffective starting a game yet again and always on his heels, Cozier Duberry kept giving it away and Weimann bar a half chance looked like he was running in quick sand. The 3 subs that came on, a total waste of time and did we expect anything different from those individuals. Cantwell will be in net if he drops any deeper, a couple of nice bits of play here and there but again not good enough. Tronstad's injury a huge concern and we need to sign another midfielder. Buckley had a spell where he was much better but not for long enough and Forshaw as expected was not up to it, really poor. Pears has started looking shaky again and shouldnt be conceding at that side from the free kick.

I have never said we should invest ALL transfer income. Its a strawman argument, no one has. The whole purpose of being a trading club is buying assets, selling them at a profit, reinvesting SOME of the proceeds and continuing. The objective cant be to not need ANY money invested by the owners. Its practically impossible. Point being, reinvesting a reasonable % of proceeds allows you to continue to trade, make profit on sales and reduce losses while benefitting from a better team in the meantime. And you will sign duds along the way, And again, no one is asking to sign anyone to smash our wage ceiling. And on timings of payments. We would similarly be paying fees in installments. And we did not spend 25%-50% of fees. Around £2m of £10m would have us at 20% but thats ignoring the Wharton sale.

If those 3 are now worth more than we paid, which Im not convinced about but I suppose the combined fees were very low to begin with. Surely that only strengthens the argument that investing in fees can REDUCE the amount of investment needed.

Im guessing you wanted Coyle and Kean sacked. Did you boycott games until they left? Not only a ridiculous argument, but a hypocritical one.

Even those defending him at the time wouldnt have predicted what happened, especially as he hadnt done anything like that before. When you spend a decent fee for the first time in ages for someone mainly sat on the bench and once or twice out of the squad for the first half season, it doesnt warrant this mockery out of hindsight, they were valid concerns.

Has absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

Whether I rate Gueye and Ohashi or not, as has been touched on, one success and youve more than covered those. The 2 combined cost just over £1m, Ohashi in particular didnt scream potential future asset, hes 28 and cost a nominal fee. And obviously its not an exact science. But spend reasonable money and not only are we stronger now but theres likely a chance we can reduce our losses whilst benefitting in the mean time. Last time we spent anything reasonable, it was £4m on 3 players. For that, we have made a good profit on one player who scored lots of goals while here and covered the expenditure on 2 current and important first team players.

You mention about bickering about not making £17m losses into £37m losses by signing 10 more players, obviously an exaggerated comment. But he thing is, if they reinvested more, that doesnt just equate to more losses. Quite the opposite. The primary way that a football club can reduce losses is by player trading. If you invest in fees, you have assets, it only takes maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 to really come good (when we have spent fees we have seen this ourselves) and you make a profit on all fees invested. So quite the contrary to investing money equalling higher losses, it not only improves us on the pitch, it more than likely leads to SMALLER losses. Football as a business is a financial shit storm, basically if you are an owner you will have to subsidise losses. Our owners dont deserve praise for that. 19 of the 20 Premier League clubs are even doing it at the top level and the exception only doesnt due to government funding.

Well dont watch then. A really mature response knowing full well that the point I and others raise is correct. Constantly increasing TV deals inconvenience the matchgoing fans, the prices of tickets arent going down, basically all clubs are constantly making losses and running unsustainable business models, and the players are the ones that get more money. Its impossible to justify.

Hes English, add him to the list of reasons as to why we will win the next World Cup.

There shouldnt be that many games, it is all of these associations and companies together that are complicit in screwing over the fans. Its obviously not just the TV companies but they are part of it. End result? Players on stupid money, clubs at all levels pissing money out making losses, match going fans charged more and more and inconvenienced more in the process. The money goes to the top, everyone else especially us fans fucked over. Constantly increasing TV deals that dont help the losses because wages just go up and make it harder for fans. And people like you lapping it up.

But he isnt the one setting the budget and he isnt solely responsible for identifying players. And history suggests more often than not we are left disappointed.

Its the same every window. X other clubs havent signed anyone, which players that have gone elsewhere would you want, have patience FFS, total faith. Yet more often than not, our windows conclude with minimal spending and a sense of frustration that we havent got what we needed.

Neither was a foul by Trafford.

The problem isnt the channel. Its the inconvenience it causes matchgoing fans who should be the priority to facilitate supporters given the option to pick from various games from their armchair.

May I ask why you have faith? So faith in there being enough money to suitably strengthen and Gestede heading our recruitment to get a goalscorer and some pace within that. You keep saying this but obviously none of us know who they are. No one has said I wish we signed them.

If anything, the luck went against them tonight with 2 dodgy penalties. They clearly arent shit (they are professional footballers @chaddyrovers to coin your phrase, how can they be shit?!) because theyve conceded 9 goals all season and have 1 point short of 2 points per game.

I havent said that I dont trust Eustace and you are purposely twisting my words to suggest as such. I am saying is it possible/likely to get what we need to reach the play offs factoring in our likely small budget? And Eustace wont be the only one involved in deciding on who we go for. Weve spent probably a not dissimilar amount on 2 strikers already and the fact that we want another suggests that we didnt get it right on those occasions, and we are in a similar position in terms of finances. It is hard. I think the main fear is not having the requisite budget to improve sufficiently. That would be the most likely reason if we dont sign what we need, which isnt Eustace's fault. I dont see why people shouldnt see what fans of previous clubs think, look at stats, comment on injury records and comment on seeing a player in question play previously, positive or negative should they choose. It cant just be a case of, well he must be good enough if hes being signed as Eustace as approved it. I have never heard of some of the players signed. So I dont know if they are good or not. And I am not saying that we should have signed those particular individuals. It goes back to the point about when you have a bit of money, it makes it easier to then go out and sign players quicker. Especially when you broaden your horizons and choose not just from the limited domestic pool. We likely will be active in the loan market you would think, more likely than not. Do you have faith that we get the players we need in this window?