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You can’t have kept a straight face while you typed that, surely? Nearly a quarter of a billion in, and counting… and all Venky’s have to show for it is a shit TV advert, a snowball to the head, and irreparable damage to their reputation in the UK.

Well we’d better get used to losing players for nothing as they reach their peak in terms of performance and value then.

Both Johnson and Davenport are now off the wage bill. Both were also on significantly bigger wages than Nyambe and Rothwell. They both contributed sod all last season and could easily be replaced by first year pros coming through the academy on peanuts. If we can’t use those savings in wages to offer good, regular first team players something near the going rate, all the plans and long term visions we heard about yesterday are doomed to fail from the off.

The crackpots on the Lancashire Telegraph comments are excelling themselves with this one! A few gems… - Its good that he’s going because no player should stay at a club too long - Not to worry, we have Annesley - Lenihan is greedy - He’s not a big loss - Not to worry, Gregg B and the as yet unappointed manager will sort it out - It allows Carter to develop - Travis will get less yellow cards - It’s not all doom and gloom, it’s money off the wage bill - The prospect of new signings is interesting - If you are unhappy about this you are negative and need to back the club

So, 2 down, 1 to go.

12 months ago I thought Lenihan had long since peaked, but he really kicked on last season. He definitely suited being part of that back 5 and linked up really well with Nyambe and the other two centre backs. To lose our home grown captain, an international with 250 games for us under his belt to bloody Middlesbrough is pathetic. He can frustrate at times, but we are certainly a better side when he plays. We won’t replace him with a better centre half, and we don’t have a natural replacement as captain either. If he was going to a Prem team, or a team with genuine ambitions of getting there, then fair enough. But we are seeing our careless and shortsighted approach to contract renewals coming back to bite us.

The same Bradley Orr who cited the Magna Carta as his reason for breaching lockdown rules. Claims he tried to be an ethical agent, because he was so principled. Signed a 4 year deal immediately after relegation and got it paid up. The guy is a deluded prick. Plenty of untruths in this story, though I don’t doubt what he says about N’Zonzi and Givet. Happy to acknowledge the toxic bits that suit his agenda, but lots of glossing over going on.

Deila is very much Waggott’s cup of tea. A coach rather than a manager, well versed in the methods UEFA approve of. Would fit Mowbray’s parting wish for a development coach too. I think Waggott’s vision is to continue on the near circular journey Mowbray used to drone on about. Tread water, keep ticking over while only losing a small fortune each year, sell the odd player, league position is an afterthought. Basically a 21st Century Crewe Alexandra, operating at a slightly higher level. I doubt those above him have any vision for the club any more. They’ll just go with whatever chancer or agent charms them most.

I like the way he just casually drops in how he signed a lucrative 4 year deal immediately after we were relegated, as if it’s in anyway normal but also acknowledging it’s completely ludicrous.

We sent a newsletter out to members on Wednesday. It’s also on our website. We met with Steve Waggott last month and have our AGM in three weeks. Would be good to see you there!

The entire debacle is looking ready made for Honeyman, Sheron or Horner to swoop in and drop a massive shit on our doorstep last minute. Either that or Judan Ali finally taking the job he has long been primed for.

I think the snobbery around Ainsworth’s presumed playing style is really unfair. Personally, the last thing I want is somebody continuing Mowbray’s journey, trying to get us playing like a shit tribute to Liverpool, or possession valued above goals, no risks taken, and players trying to be made into something they aren’t. Ainsworth has got more than the sum of its parts out of that Wycombe team for years. Be interesting to see what he could do with some better parts. He might not subscribe to the way football is apparently supposed to be played these days, but I think that’s a good thing. We would need a complete squad overhaul for the long ball game to be an option, so I think there are more reasons to be hopeful than fearful with Ainsworth.

As probably the biggest Jason Wilcox fan outside of his immediate family, I wholeheartedly agree. Unfortunately though, a DOF role at Rovers in the current climate is a big step down from Academy director at Man City. Both in terms of stature, and I’d imagine financially. Cheers Venky’s.

Last point first. Faithfully assured? Not really. I’ve quoted the exact conversation in detail. At least 3 other people who have posted on this thread were there too. He was clear enough though, and if we end up with an HSH nobody he has put pressure on himself, and he will definitely be publicly reminded of the conversation. On to the rest. You ask why the owners would pass up the best candidate for the job. Million dollar (or £200 million) question. Why did they bin Warnock off for Coyle? At that point he was literally the worst imaginable candidate apart from re-hiring Steve Kean… and do we really need to talk about his appointment? Your attempts to pin the blame for all the wrongs of the last 12 years on Steve Waggott is ridiculous. It’s obvious why you are doing it - your old school mates want to basically take his job. If you want to support them in that, fine, crack on. Just come out with it though. They might well do a better job than Waggott, and I understand you and they don’t want to slate Venky’s if that’s the plan, but your reframing of everything, and glossing over or outright ignoring every horrific and damaging decision that occurred while Waggott was still knocking about at Southend and Charlton is really disingenous.

What is the correct figure then? Presumably you know it?

The really frightening thing though, if we did get Pardew he’d be one of the two best appointments out of 8 they have made

Seems strange that we have apparently dismissed the possibility of a betting company out of hand due to a moral stance, but are fine with Totally Wicked. The loophole that actually allows them to be a sponsor will be closed soon I’d imagine. I get why they went with them last year when the Recoverite deal went belly up, but doing so again shows how poor we are commercially, and how off the supposed moral compass is.

You usually tell us you aren’t interested in whatever other clubs are doing. Seem to when it suits your narrative though.

Don’t forget that they all probably played Spurs when they were lodging there.

I saw a post on here earlier, apologies, can’t remember who said it, but they used the word “grateful’ as being a key selling point to Venky’s. It was an excellent observation. I actually think it goes further, they have previously appointed people who can’t believe their luck to be given the job, Lambert aside. If you’re pathetically grateful you’ll be completely undemanding, pliable, and prepared to give up enough dignity to bang on about them being humble at every opportunity. I reckon that by October we will be wishing we’d gone for Duncan Ferguson.

You never know who you might bump into at the airport mate!! Enjoy the break!

I completely agree with the first part. Saturday was the first Champions League match I have watched in years. I thought it was dull and boring. I only really enjoy watching lower and non-league games as a neutral, and the FA cup earlier rounds. With Rovers though I enjoy seeing us win. When Allardyce was sacked we could justifiably have put it down to wanting a better style of play, but we all know what happened next. It’d be reasonable for anyone to want better than the slightly past his peak Allardyce we had then… now we can’t dream of anyone that effective.

Delusional adjective characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument There’s only one person displaying that type of behaviour on here. Well, you and one other.

The same people who brought us Coyle, Lambert, Bowyer and to all intents and purposes, Steve Kean.

There was plenty of praise for the kits. About as much praise as there was complaints about it’s late release and limited numbers. What was great about the sponsor? It wasn’t the financials that’s for sure.