Actually, if you had read all of my posts I think you will have found two counters to this a) no pub would ever choose to go non-smoking unless there is an across the board ban come here to paris, or even where I am in England, and find me a place where I could be even the least bit social and not be surrounded by smoke. Surely my civil liberties allow me to exit my house without having my health damaged by other people smoking. Or is it too much to ask for me to be able to go out to eat or have a drink and to think of myself? Smokers of course have more rights than me.

They aren't going to make me sick now though are they? The point is that we aren't taking away people's rights to make their own decisions, but rather to make decisions that directly affect the lives of others. If you can honeslty say that you think eating a burger or having a smoke are on the same level then fair enough, but I don't think anyone, even the most hardened smoker, would. I've got to get back to work now though, exams coming up and I need to learn how to dodge the question for a bit longer.

If you use actual arguments that I don't agree with but actually have a point I won't make a comment like that. For example, your comment on the way it could have an effect on the crowd makes sense, I don't agree, but at least it is valid. To say, this is stupid why don't we ban hot dogs, burgers and chips while we are at it as they aren't good for you either doesn't really improve the debate does it?

That isn't the future. I think this is a move to ban a substance that doesn't only harm the user, which is what seperates it from some of the other mentions it. True, things like alcohol can lead to dui or alcohol induced violence but it isn't quite the same. To get all worked up about this saying we are going down a path where we won't be able to do this, that or the other is simply ridiculous and is a poor attempt at trying to counter some fairly well reasoned arguments through the use of non-sensical extremes. All I can say is that for all of you who are so interested in maintaining civil liberty then why can't I legally smoke marijuana? What happened to all of he opium dens?

I do. I'm sure there will be the odd one who stops coming but not many. It could be argued that if we see a ban on smoking people will free up more of their disposable income and have more money to go to Rovers games. Swings and roundabouts really.

Sad if you stop going to Rovers because you can't go 90 minutes without a smoke.

What about my civil liberty to not run the risk of becoming sick by standing in an area? I think it is great that I'm getting that one back. Do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt me. Nowhere does it say you have the right to slowly damage the health of others and I'm sorry to say that in any European country it is impossible to avoid places where people smoke, a ban is the only thing that can change that. When I lived in the States American I had no trouble whatsoever avoiding smoke, maybe that is why you feel the way that you do American. Come here to Paris and try and find places for me to go. Now I don't mind it so much in bars, but if you are eating it is a horrible thing. A family friend was recently diagnosed with a type of lung cancer that can only be the result of smoking related damage, she has never smoked a cigarette in her life but is now fighting for her life having already had a lung removed and going through radiation therapy. Tell her about how important your right to smoke while standing next to her is.

4th Arsenal 67p 5th Blackburn 67p 6th Spurs 64p 7th Bolton 63p Hard to do without either being very biased or without being pessimistic. For example, I consider all of our games tricky, but then look at other clubs playing the same teamand think it is a pretty safe three points, that's what feelings do for you. There will be surprises though, didn't expect Boro to beat Bolton and I'm sure that won't be the last one I didn't see coming.

No. I think we are moving towards a total ban on smoking but it has to be implemented in stages so that it doesn't come in one amazingly unpopular rush. People will still want to go to the bars and pubs, just as even though I don't like being in a room filled with smokers I still went to bars and pubs. The only difference is now I won't be having my health damaged by the action of others. People are much more likely to give up smoking as a result of this then they are to give up drinkings and going to the pub. You will certainly kill off the entire class of "social smokers".

Unless they were going to impose it on certain ones and not others, which wouldn't have been fair, I doubt few would have chosen to become non-smoking.

Yes, but most pubs either a) don't have the interest don't have the space and money in order to actually make a divide that was closed off and properly ventilated.

1) You take work where you can get it generally if you are looking for bar work. 2) True, but then no one said you can't wait until you go outside to have a smoke? Or that you can't just go and have your drink and smoke at home? Tell me why I have to allow someone to have their little comfort and increase their and my chances of death by having a smoke while I have a drink but they can't do us both a favour and not have a smoke while they have a drink. Why is their right the greater? It certainly isn't, when you consider the health effects of one of the rights versus that of the other.

It looks more within our reach now then it did at the start of the day.

United need to score. Not only because we need Bolton to lose but also so that they can make points up on Chelsea.

Arsenal now 3 up. Henry again.

Big Alan Shearer helping his old club out. Hopefully he can get a couple more and help bring the glory days back to Ewood.

I don't disagree, I'd always rather have the points, but sometimes it is nice to see what the others do at this stage of the season.

I'm sure they do Modi, but it could give them a huge boost if they see other teams slip up and a chance to either gain ground or widen the gap.

Wonderful stuff. Another great read.

You are most useful dillo dillo.

That it is. Absolutely love it.

20K? How much money did you put on that game?!?

Now I know most will disagree with me, but just watch it back. Defoe sticks his arm off and is holding the keeper off, which the keeper simply tries to get around. Considering how well protected keepers normally are this was somewhat surprising, considering that outside of the box there is no way a striker would be allowed to do that it was also surprising. I would have wanted and probably given a replay had I either been supporting the team or the ref, but after having seen the replays from all angles it wasn't as stonewall to me as it first seemed.

Rovers World? That's the only other thing really.

Ferguson was where most of the Duff money went, but you are right Amo and Emerton had already signed before Duff left. Can we please all move on from Duff though, it will be three years this summer, we are onto bigger and better things now.