26 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Yet a quick Google search says he’s not even on half a million a year….

The same Google search says Patrick Bamford is on £2 Million a year and I’d bet not many Leeds players are on more than he is….

Last season, I think you will find Leeds' wage bill was substantially in excess of £100million - almost five times the level of Rovers.

The information came from a source who would certainly have access to that kind of knowledge and I would give it a 90%+ rating as being correct.

3 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

It is unbelievable. As in, I don't believe that you know what it is.

I think I know to the nearest £thousand / per week.

My understanding is his Leeds' salary is £2MILLION+ pa and the + is significant!!!

32 minutes ago, Tom said:

 

Poveda - shocker, looks over weight and uninterested 

Think it's his pay packet -unbelievable what he's on at Leeds and what Rovers are coughing up for him.

You could have wrote the script for tonight.

Whilst Mowbray remains in charge don't think anything will ever change.

Hugely difficult game at Blackpool who have a manager who knows just what the feck he's doing.

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

Neils Preston finished above Mowbrays Rovers every season he was there. Handing out a few beatings in the process. The guy also got Norwich promoted to the Prem well within the last decade not when adam was a lad.

He must have something about him and is easily in the same bracket as Mowbray, better in fact going off those stats.  

At end the day the Bowyers, Lamberts, Neils and Mowbrays are all in that middle rung of gaffers.  Sometimes the dice just needs rolling so he'd be far from the worst choice to land on.

I think there is much to 'come out in the wash' and when Mowbray does go, I think there will be some interesting readings!

2 hours ago, Gav said:

The managerial bar is lower than I can ever remember it, all this talk of Neill and Hughton - Both abject failures whilst working under similar circumstances as Mowbray, why on earth would we want either of those 2 here?

I get the Wilder links, but I fear he's beyond on means, but these 2? doesn't make sense, you're replacing one failure with another.

 

Think Wilder in danger of thinking he's 'too big' - a number of clubs are understood to have had a nibble including us, WBA and Forest. 

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We see what happens in the future and whether you get your wish for him to replace Mowbray. Should be on the shortlist if we had a vacancy 

Did you see the link I posted for you in the championship thread yesterday?

Not my wish!  Have made this clear from the start.  However, IMO, far superior to our dinosaurial incumbent.

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why didn't take the job when he was supposedly in talks during the summer? 

also isn't it Balaji that he has to convince firstly. Not all of the family

If only the Indian way of doing things was that simple...............................I'll say no more.

Paradoxically, I think Rovers' decent start, results' wise, makes Mowbray's position more vulnerable in that more would be managers out there are more inclined to step into the Ewood hot seat.

For what it's worth, I think Neill would crawl over broken glass to become our manager and I also think the Raos know this.

Decision time is here with Mowbray's contract running down!!!

11 hours ago, Silas said:

Hull haven't scored a goal in their last 5 matches. 

Hull haven't scored a goal in the last 4 matches against Rovers.

Rovers have kept a clean sheet in 4 of last 6 home games against Hull.

Pretty emphatic stats that all point to one thing being guaranteed to happen tomorrow.....🤔

You are right, think Hull are shite.

Expect Mowbray to produce one of his 'get out of jail' performances / results in front of Sky TV cameras that will have commentators / pundits drooling just what a 'terrific job Mowbray is doing under extreme circumstances'. 

Tonight is one of those licence to print money games and with Rovers at just about evens, I've banged on enough to make Christmas a bit more special this year. 

1 hour ago, Gav said:

A very good friend of mine, season ticket holder, spoke to him recently, incidentally it was at the same event where he spoke to Lambert after he'd resigned in 2016 and got the reason why he walked. 

I have no idea if we put the feelers out for a new manager in April, reading between the lines we never did, but we certainly never went near Neil, thats for sure. 

Think you are being a bit naive there Gav!

Do you honestly think Neil would admit to a random Rovers' fan that he'd been sounded out particularly when the club has a manager in situ!?!?

I'm pretty certain there's more to this than meets the eye!

1 hour ago, Waggy76 said:

I was told by a PNE fan back in April  that Neil was coming to Ewood...

 

A relative with good PNE connections has been flagging this possibility with me for the last 8/9 months.

There would be no compensation now as he's out of work and where he lives, he's just a short 15/20 minute drive from Brockhall.

I understand Wilder was sounded out some time ago but thought there were bigger fish in the sea than Rovers.

On 02/09/2021 at 13:33, Mercer said:

I think it is fair to assume all is not hunky dory at Rovers.

I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff.

A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April.

IMO, there is neither rhyme nor reason behind many decisions made at Rovers.

I think there is an air of unpredictability and idiosyncrasy about Rovers and despite having got off to a decent start and the closure of the transfer window, it would not surprise me in the least if we soon saw the departure of Mowbray.   

I posted this on Thursday and Nixon posts his story today.

I stand by my Thursday post and think the next Rovers' manager will be either Alex Neil or Chris Wilder and sooner than many on here would think. 

14 hours ago, Tom said:

Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

Is he fed up himself?

I think it is fair to assume all is not hunky dory at Rovers.

I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff.

A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April.

IMO, there is neither rhyme nor reason behind many decisions made at Rovers.

I think there is an air of unpredictability and idiosyncrasy about Rovers and despite having got off to a decent start and the closure of the transfer window, it would not surprise me in the least if we soon saw the departure of Mowbray.   

8 hours ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Blows my mind that they don't have more ambition than conning some Indian chicken farmers into thinking they are good at their jobs. 

Think Waggott is in his sixties and Mowbray and Venus mid to late fifties.

I would think hunger and ambition deserted them a long time ago and who could blame them for wanting and maintaining hugely paid jobs on 'Easy Street'.  I think they are third raters and probably know this in their own minds and Rovers are probably their last chance to top up pension funds. 

Staggering that the Raos and Suhail fail to see this.

Heard that Bolton in for Chapman.

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

He’s on 400K

and I think that's £400k completely wasted.

IMO, Waggott has brought nothing at all to the party, adding very little, if any, value.

15 minutes ago, islander200 said:

What's happening with that  imminent loan arrival from Liverpool?

Told it's still bubbling!

Mowbray in LT about Poveda:

“He's played quite a bit in the Premier League quite and as I’ve talked about before, the salary level is way, way beyond where we can even think about.”

As I posted on Tuesday, my understanding is that this is an expensive deal for Rovers (loan fee and wages).

Those who thought the lad was on some £10/11k / week at Leeds need to think again.

If what I've been told is correct, his salary at Leeds is substantially higher than our highest earner(s) and I understand he will be one of Rovers' highest earners (if not the highest) even though we will be paying only a part of his salary.

I just hope the lad delivers!

5 hours ago, Gav said:

 

But lets face it, nobody sells fixed assets like training grounds unless the owners say so, the buck stops with them.

And who do you think sowed the seeds!?!?

2 hours ago, JoeH said:

Best team in the league only getting better as this window goes on. Hope they go up because I think Ismael's football will be fascinating to watch in the Premier League.

At least they will get there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We wont and sadly it will be a 'result' if we finish above bottom six.

Think Mowbray's journey has been in reverse gear for most of his tenure.

IMO, in the main, football under Mowbray has been amongst the most turgid I've seen in almost 60 years of watching Rovers.  I would put it on a par with what we saw under the hapless Jim Iley.  

I think last season was an illusion.

Started off decently with convincing wins against 10 man Coventry, 10 man PNE and an utterly shambolic Derby who shortly after sacked their manager.

As for the three five goal performances you keep referring to - perspective called for.  Second game of the season against Wycombe who were like lambs to the slaughter until they found their feet and sadly they were relegated.  Two five goal wins in the last two home matches of the season - these were dead rubbers against a shambolic Brum who'd just sacked their manager and Bowyer threw a load of kids in and then an almost equally shambolic Huddersfield whose goalie gifted us at least three of those goals. 

I think Mowbray is a disaster and he's set the club back a million miles / years and it's doubtful we will ever recover.  That run of 2 wins in 17 games will stick in the memory, for all the wrong reasons, for a long time and during that time, IMO, the manager's body language said it all; any man of integrity and principle would have walked away.

 I think 'I will not be a burden on this club' Mowbray's position is indefensible.  God help us if he remains manager for much longer.

12 minutes ago, islander200 said:

We will bring more than one more loan In

Think the other lad from Liverpool should happen before Saturday - no names as too sensitive.

2 hours ago, imy9 said:

Two issues with your hypotheticals…

1. He signed for Leeds when they were in the championship, having never played a single competitive game- 40k a week??? I’ve seen it listed as 11k and that seems reasonable.

2. A selling club would spin it as higher…hmmm…why would we as are giving 40 per cent of the profits to Newcastle! From media reports it’s going to be close to 20 million for Armstrong.

I know we have lots of incompetent people on the staff but you can use better examples then these two.

If you are going to 'have a go' at me then please at least get your facts and argument right.

Did I say he was on £40k a week at Leeds!?  No, I said:

We will not be paying the majority of his wages.  "I think some of the wage levels quoted for the lad at Leeds earlier in this thread are ridiculously low.  I'll leave you with this thought, we loan a young player from a PL club on a hypothetical £40k pw and we pay him £20k pw, we would not be paying the majority of the player's wages but we wouldn't half be paying some dollar. 

I was trying to demonstrate that even though we might not pay the majority of a loanee's wages, it may very well cost us top dollar.

I understand his wages at Leeds are way in excess of £11k pw and Rovers will be paying in excess of £11k pw in wages.  I am either right or wrong but I have a high degree of confidence in what I have been told.

As for Armstrong, if you think it's close to £20million well good luck with that!.

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

We will not be paying the majority of his wages.  I think some of the wage levels quoted for the lad at Leeds earlier in this thread are ridiculously low.  I'll leave you with this thought, we loan a young player from a PL club on a hypothetical £40k pw and we pay him £20k pw, we would not be paying the majority of the player's wages but we wouldn't half be paying some dollar. 

Two weeks ago it was your understanding that Armstrong was sold for 12 leading to 15 which is incorrect also.  Well as there have been no official figures published neither of us can be proven correct or incorrect.  A selling club will always 'spin' in the best possible way.