Issue needs clearing up now.

V's need to either sh1t or get off the pot.

Should either be fired immediately or get a new contract - can't be allowed to drift aimlessly.

Still think he'll be gone sooner than many of us dare hope!

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Would have sacked Mowbray on the weakness of that interview alone.

IMO, conforms what a turgid and uninspirational bloke he is.

Three games a week he said - another misleading statement I think.  Playing on a Tuesday or Wednesday followed by Saturday is two games a week unless my abacus isn't working!

Tony has a plan for moving forward:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/qpr-blackburn-rovers-mowbray-reaction-21899915

'We have the reaction of Tony Mowbray on the defeat and the plan for Rovers moving forward'.

I think our local journalists are a total embarrassment.

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Go and get Gareth Ainsworth Rovers and let replace Mowbray. 

We need a manager with fresh ideas, new tactical approach and get us keeping clean sheets

Feckin hell Chaddy, that's another rapid change of heart!

Keep cool.

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

will the worm turn this saturday if another pile of garbage is being served up

'Let's see where we are at Christmas' the happy clappers will retort.

FFS, now opening my second red of the night, this is so feckin depressing.

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Didn't see the game tonight.

No efforts on target?

Are we playing 3 at the back just to accommodated this bloody loanee CB from Brighton? Never seen us play well using 5-3-2 or 3-5-2.

Two points from twelve ........ here we go again!

Dream on - three defeats and a single draw giving us a solitary point.

Total dross.

As bad, if not worse, than anything served up under Kean or Coyle.

No surprise though.

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

The championship is not piss pot league at all but a league that is very competitive and enjoyable to watch where anyone can beat anyone. 

Also instead of saying majority of fans let say its not what you want to support the club for. 

Sorry but the buck doesn't stop with Mowbray over new contracts and he has very little part in the contract negotiations to be honest. Waggott does them. Plus you don't factor that most championship clubs have financial reset and not willing to over pay players and in fact cut the budgets and be less reliant on the owners money. 

I think he is far from shit manager and he was excellent for the club in the 3 years of his reign given the totally mess that Coyle left us after his sacking. 

Mercer, well in all fairness you have been predicting this for the last 9/10 months now and quite frankly its been pathetic to keep reading. Another one of your prediction that never happened. 

I have always said since the summer that I suspect that November international break would be where they decide to stick or twist with Mowbray and his future here, 

I wonder where Alex Neil is on his longest walk to Ewood Park manager seat we seen ever? Thats must be one long route to the club.  

I'd rather watch the grass grow than some of the turgid stuff I think Mowbray has served up in the Championship.

Think it's fair to say Rovers have lost approx. half their fan base (including season tickets) over the years and that tells you all you need to know about your 'enjoyable Championship' and the performances and attainment levels delivered by Mowbray.

Fact - players will sign for a decent manager who they see fired with ambition and purpose.  I think likes of Nyambe, Lenihan, Rothwell, Brereton  etc can see through Mowbray's journey and find it underwhelming.

So you think Mowbray was excellent for his first three years - for God's sake we were relegated under the man when, by his own admission to fans at Blues' Bar some two years ago, he was appointed to keep us up.  Failure - full stop.  I don't think Warnock would think he'd done an excellent job if he was appointed to keep a club up and ended up getting them relegated!

I've told you so many times Alex Neill would not be my choice!  However, I think the chances of him being Rovers' manager at Christmas are higher than Mowbray's and if there was a market for this then I would be putting a big bet on it - read into that what you want. Just remember this point and when I said it!

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I expected a mid table(around 9 to 14/15th) finish this season given our squad but a possibleablitity of a chance of top 6 if we kept our key players and in form. 

If you are asking what my tipping point would be if I was the owner of the club? I would given him until the November international break and judge him on the season performances and results. Make a decision to stick or twist. Plus see who is available and who I want to replace him with if a decision is there to be made. 

FFS Chaddy, the majority of fans do not support the club expecting a 9th to 14/15th finish in the p1ss pot Championship.  How bereft of ambition we've become.  IMO, five years of Mowbray's mismanagement have put us in this position.  His squad, his player trading, his inability to sell the club to those players stalling on new contracts - the buck stoops with him, full stop, no excuses.

Mowbray has been with us almost 5 years and I think he's a totally sh1t manager, specialising in verbal diarrhea which, unfortunately, many fans swallow sheep like.

My first wish for Christmas is to see turkeys on the supermarket shelves and my second wish is to see the back of, IMO, this dinosaur of a manager and I don't think I'll be disappointed!

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Agreed there. 3 years contract with wages same as Dack and 15 million pounds release clause in the deal. Seems a fair deal 

Dack is now trailing in Brereton's slipstream.

Brereton is 5 to 6 years younger, free from serious injury (historic or current), is cutting it at international level and getting global recognition.  Additionally, I think he has far more growth potential than Dack.

Could Brereton cut it in the PL - think he's far more likely to than Dack and also Armstrong who seemingly has found the step up more than a bit of a stretch!

Two points in my mind and the first point leads to my second point.  Firstly, his initial call up to the Chilean international team did wonders for his confidence and, IMO, was the catalyst for this season's startling progression.  This begs the question, just wtf have Mowbray and co been doing to this lad for the previous three seasons?!?!  Secondly, I don't think the point will be lost on either Brereton or his agent that his huge step forward seems to have been triggered outside his normal environment (Rovers, Mowbray, Venus, Lowe etc).  

Unless we see a change to our football coaching team (with Mowbray, Venus and Lowe all heading through the exit door) then if I was the lad's agent, I would be seeking a move to an ambitious and progressive club in order to accelerate Brereton's development and to see just how far the lad could go.  On Mowbray's journey, I think he's destined to continue playing for a team  where Championship mediocrity would be the zenith of achievement.

Brereton and his agent hold all the aces.  As his agent, I would be immediately be seeking a huge pay rise to make him the highest paid player at the club with a reasonable release close that would not put off PL and foreign suitors.  IMO, Rovers have no choice but to act with haste in order to protect their now most valuable asset.

Sadly, I think it's highly likely Rothwell will leave Rovers.

Have always liked the lad from day one - a potential game changer, exciting and posing a real threat.

IMO, he hasn't been managed well by Mowbray and co and his progress has been held back.  Rothwell needed consistent opportunity, encouragement and patience with focus on what he can do ever so well.

Think he will simply fly at his next club.

2 hours ago, JohnGo said:

Klopp, Mourinho, Ferguson, Shankley, got the best out of their players. The quiet ones Mercer, Busby had an aura that made good players great eg Tony Book. You can’t imagine Mowbray being one tenth as good as these managers.

Great post.

Kenny also fell into the 'quiet ones' but my God, what an aura.

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well why wouldn't you still not write Neil off becoming Rovers manager? 

Who would be your choice to replace Mowbray?

But you have said this in a previous post "there's been too much 'noise' since early April for Mowbray to be given an extended contract." Its the first time I've seen you post this so I am asking what noises have you hearing and from where? 

I think its too early to be given him an extend contract and I would rather wait until next March or April before deciding his future. 

Neill - I think he has some support within the Rovers' hierarchy and also I think he WANTS the job.

My choice - don't follow football the same and therefore lost touch a bit.  There is untapped talent out there (eg Blackpool 'found' Critchley) and there are good appointments to be made (eg think Forest have made an inspired choice in Cooper).  If Venky's want to employ me as a consultant, I'll guarantee finding someone who would be a vast improvement on Mowbray.

Mowbray contract extension - think you've misunderstood me Chaddy.  I've said I think there has been too much noise for Mowbray to be given an extension - IMO, he was 'a dead man walking' for quite some time during April/May and I think it showed in his demeanour.  I would not give Mowbray any extension - IMO, the sooner he is 'out the building' the better for Rovers!!!

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who knows what will happen in the meetings with the owners. 

What gossip Mercer apart from you suggesting for 9 months that Alex Neil was incoming here which according to Gav was false from what he was told? 

So you now suggesting that you have been heating for 6 months that Mowbray will be given an extended contract? We have seen people posting on here that Waggott tried to get rid of Mowbray last season and I reckon it was around the Reading game given the Mowbray strange interview and comments around the Reading away game. 

I think there has been speculation about Mowbray's position since at least, if not earlier, the Bournemouth home game back in early April.  Within an hour of that game finishing, I was given to understand Mowbray would be gone within 72 hours - others on here, including @oldjamfan1also had that understanding.  Obviously, didn't happen and perhaps indicative of what I said in an earlier post today - I think decisions made at Rovers change like the wind.  IMO, Mowbray's body language in subsequent games suggested something was amiss.

As for Neill, I am 90%+ certain what Gav was told was wrong.  Given time, I think it will emerge Neill was close to becoming Rovers' manager (you will recall what Warnock has said in interviews about his time when he was in the running for Rovers' job).  I still would not write Neill off - he would not be my choice though.

As far your final point, I certainly have not been hinting for 6 months that Mowbray would get an extended contract.  If I had to call it, I would say it's 90%+ certain he wont.

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What noise aside from nonsense about Alex Neil's imminent appointment? 

For a start, you only need to read on here what other folk have posted!

6 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Where I sit in the JWU I don't have a view of the dugout.

It was noticable at Blackpool, however, through sitting across from the dugout, just how lethargic Mowbray et al are.

Compared to Critchley and his assistants - who seemed to be on their feet for the duration cajolling their players - our lot sit slumped almost horizontally watching the world go by. It's little wonder that we see this reflected on the pitch.

Totally agree.

IMO, Lowe is the most uninspiring coach I've seen with Rovers - a man lost in his own world I think.

IF Mowbray goes to India then, IMO, it is bad news for those of us desperate for a change in manager.

If he goes out there then I think it's pretty certain he will come back with an extended contract.

I think we are a very dysfunctional club as evidenced by the range of views / gossip doing the rounds - the wind seems to change direction on almost a daily basis.  To me, there's been too much 'noise' since early April for Mowbray to be given an extended contract.

36 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

I'm sure his agent would advise otherwise.  Every player has a 'moment' and this seems to be Brereton's.  Like Armstrong he needs to make the most of it if he has ambitions of playing at a higher level.  He's not going to get Premier League football with Rovers that's for sure.  

Having said that, even if he signs a contract the Rovers will be quick to sell in the summer if the right bid comes along.  Sadly, we are no longer a club that can retain players with ambition as our club has lacked any sort of ambition for some time now.

IMO, no agent worth his salt would look to tie a talented player to a club going nowhere under a dinosaurial manager.

1 hour ago, Cherry Blue said:

Fully agree with what Chaddy says about our passionate support yesterday. It was outstanding. Yet the Blackburn Rovers Manager could not publicly acknowledge Rovers fans yet he did for Blackpool fans. Imo this is a disgrace and he should be told. Another for the fans forum ( @only2garnersand @K-Hod).

It's simple - think Mowbray has got a way with murder in empty stadiums.  Now the fans are back, IMO, he can't handle the stick coming his and the team's way.

Rovers win today in a high scoring thriller.  Think Dick Keogh always has been an accident waiting to happen - a sandwich short of a picnic!

At almost 2/1, a great chance to get the Christmas fund going.

5 hours ago, TheRoversReturn said:

This is baiting for the sake of it. No need for that, it wasn't even in a reply to a post of his. Chaddy is a Rovers fan just like everyone else and is entitled to his opinion, I don't see him intentionally riling others.

You might find him annoying, but it seems many find your posts annoying too, so why not live and let live?

This is not " baiting for the sake of it".

There are some, including Chaddy, who I think change their opinions about Mowbray like the wind.  Chaddy was immensely pro Mowbray until the latter games of last season and then thought Mowbray had to go, now he seems happy with Mowbray  mainly, it would seem, due to a decent start (result wise) to the season. You don't see Chaddy intentionally riling others.......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The main purpose of my post was to point out what a half decent manager can do to a club in a fraction of the time Mowbray has had.  After less than two years there, O'Neill has Stoke on the move in the right direction and I would bet the house on Stoke finishing far higher than Rovers in the Championship.  IMO, this is in stark contrast to what I consider is Mowbray's five wasted years in charge.

If you or others find me annoying then simply put me on ignore.

Good win for Stoke tonight.

Up to third just a point behind first and second.

O'Neill joined Stoke less than 2 years ago when bottom of Championship.

Oh for a manager who knows what the feck he's doing.

5 years of Mowbray @chaddyrovers and where the feck are we on his 'journey'?!

4 hours ago, 1864roverite said:

its their derby match, hate each other so i can see pools point in limiting the opposition fans. Rovers v pool is just a local derby with no rivalry whatsoever

Clearly, you didn't stand on Blackpool's Spion Kop in the late 1960's when it was sometimes like a war zone when we met including the infamous ammonia throwing incident! 

1 hour ago, J*B said:

We’re only paying a contribution of 10K / week. 

Wish I was only on £10k / week!!!

My understanding is it was more than that and made him one of our highest earners!

However, puts paid to those on here who thought Leeds were paying him a pittance!

7 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

That’s the thing though, I couldn’t find evidence of that anywhere, there were only four players in the Leeds squad earning £2 Million a year or over and Poveda wasn’t one of them. Which stands to reason, given this is pretty much his first pro contract. I don’t think there’s any way Poveda is on that amount. Anyhow, I’ll leave it there so as not to take the thread off topic any more. 

The season Leeds were promoted (2019/20), their wage bill was reported around the £80million mark (and this is in the public domain).

It has since rocketed (now believed to be substantially in excess of £100million) including a new five year new deal for Bamford understood to be way ahead of the £2million you mentioned. 

I have no reason to believe the information about Poveda's salary is incorrect.  After all, a few years ago even the likes of Jason Lowe were earning a fortune in the blue and white halves.