1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Nobody here will buy one or so the excuse goes.

Meanwhile 4th division Bolton had sold 1000 within 3 hours of sale yesterday and today people are complaining because they can't get through on the phone such are the queues.

Excuse after excuse down at Ewood.

I think you are right.

IMO, Ewood Park is a pressure free zone with too many far too comfortable and drawing big bucks, led by Mowbray and Waggott.

I think rockets up arses badly needed.

Sadly, IMO, our football club is dying on its feet. 

12 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

How do you know we dont have 12k a week? We just lost Tosin, Smallwood, Samuel, Hart, Walton and possibly Downing, pretty sure we can stump up some average Championship wages out of that lot. 

Marshall on a fee is a no-brainer. He could go on for two or three years yet and is one of the most experienced keepers in the league. We may have been in for him and the lad chose Derby but I bet we werent.

There IS better out there but we wont get better than Marshall, id wager on it.

Think we are brassic and the funding seems to be drying up.

From 25 Jul 2018 to 5 Aug 2019 there were 4 allotment of shares by VLL totalling £22.5 million.  Since, there have been 2 allotment of shares by VLL totalling £9.3 million.

I think we need to adopt the emergency landing position.

44 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12051723/jude-bellingham-and-jadon-sancho-impress-in-youthful-borussia-dortmund-pre-season

Bellingham straight in for Dortmund. 17 years old. What are the bets he starts their first game? Yet Mowbray thinks Lewis Holtby needs weeks to settle , a former German international. He really is a moron about certain  most things. Corrected for you.

6 hours ago, Traviscon said:

If Monaco are looking at that keeper, he can't be terrible surely? 

He wont be coming here then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

25 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said to you yesterday is Morgan Fox any better than Bell? We put 7 past Sheffield Wednesday and he was part of that defence. 

Out of all that list the one player I would want is Ryan Woods. Very good player and would be good partner for Travis. But we were never going to get as he was always going back to Millwall as he has played Rowett twice already. 

from the players we are being linked would suggested our budget is so what bigger than we thought. 

Minus £19million instead of minus £20million !!!???

3 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

They should approach Euro Garages.  A large Blackburn firm...

Firstly, no surprise 10Bet exercised their break clause.  I guess their perception might have been that Rovers were a dull, unimaginative club and drifting along rather aimlessly.

The guys behind Euro Garages could buy the club if they really wanted rather than do a shirt sponsorship.  I don't see much at all in a shirt sponsorship deal for them as can't see it driving incremental business on their forecourts. 

Think Rovers might be really struggling here.  Economically, not the best time to try and obtain new sponsorship and notwithstanding the economy, what the hell can Rovers offer a new sponsor?

If we had a vibrant young manager in charge and it could be seen the club was going places............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Yes, but they take their debt with them.  They've underwritten their own loan.  Nobody will pay more than 15m I'd imagine seeing as they paid 24m and it has depreciated extensively over the last 10 years.

Their Rovers' 'project' is now most likely pushing £200million factoring in acquisition costs and loans.

There will come a 'tipping point' - it's almost inevitable as I very much doubt they will continue to throw in some £20million every year (throwing good money after bad).  In the past, we've seen the likes of Hayward, Davies and Whelan all call time on their clubs - it happens.

IMO, and I've said this for a number of weeks now, the noose is tightening. 

4 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

The trading debts accrue in the BRFC company & BRFC's parent VLL converts a large portion of the debt into shares every year. It is pretty much what happened when JW owned Rovers. Ultimately, funds come from the group companies but arguably, the directors of the parent (i.e. the Raos) could take out lower dividends to allow funds to trickle down thus indirectly funding the group.

If BRFC makes profit on an "investment" player, it needs a smaller handout from the parent.

You are not quite right.

VLL's share issues are to create funds that are loaned to The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic Limited. 

Accounts year ended 30 June 2019 (for football club) showed 'Amounts owing to parent undertaking' of £126.8 million (see Creditors - amounts falling due within one year).

In the twelve months following 30 June 2019, VLL issued a further £19million in shares.  The amount owed by the football club to the holding company at 30 June 2020 is now likely to be approx. £150million and these monies are repayable, technically within 12 months (hence part of net current liabilities) although notes to the accounts show there is no fixed date for repayment.

VLL can pull the plug anytime it wishes.

3 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

I just can't see the Lindsay link unless it's a loan.  We aren't paying £2 mil and he's likely to be on more at Stoke than our defenders.  

If this has legs, think you'll find there's a deal with Evans going the other way involved.

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

11 championship teams have yet to make any signings this window. So where is this evidence then? cos we haven't sign any one. They has only been 27 signings so far, most of them wouldn't be improvement on the current team?  So that means 13 Championship teams HAVE made signings!!!  When LT indicates our goalie targets are the likes of Iversen, Muric (loans we may not be able to afford) and Cornell (free), it tells you where we are shopping!  Our goalkeeping department and defence is, IMO, threadbare and almost devoid of quality.  We are in one helluva mess through, IMO, Mowbray's very, very poor player trading.

Why does Mowbray needs to buy any time when he 2 years left on his contract and support of the owners?  Even the V's patience will run out.  Evolution and slow build haven't taken us very far and we really need half a new team!  So, IMO, Mowbray then throws in the possession based stuff.  If I was the owner, I'd be saying 'feck that, you've spent £20million+ (including wages) on misfiring strikers, we are having to pump in getting on for £20million a season and we are really not that much further on than when you first joined us and failed to keep us up'.  IMO, Mowbray has limited defence of his position. We want results  and progress fast and not, IMO, feckin bullsh1t and soundbites. 

37 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very good point made. 

We deffo need 2 keepers in

You DONT KNOW the budget is very limited. So why keep repeating it? - Most likely because all the evidence suggests we haven't a pot to p1ss in.  If this wasn't true, decent signings, better than we already have, would have been made by now.

I gave you 2 examples of ball playing centre back we could get in who are good player. Rob Dickie and Matt Clarke. I'm sure there is loads of foriegn options like Chumi from Barcelona B for example.  All this cr@p about a ball playing centre half is a nonsense.  Aren't all professional footballers meant to be able to pass a bloody ball!!!!!!!!!!!!  First priority for any defender has to be an ability to defend (at least at our level), any silky skills after that are a bonus.  All this possession stiff is again, IMO, nonsense and nothing more than a tactic to buy Mowbray more time. 

10 minutes ago, A Northern Horde... said:

Do we still not know what Budget we have to work with...have our Pune masters spoken down to us yet?

I would be surprised if Waggott and Mowbray hadn't known what their budget was for some time despite their mutterings.

'Difficult news' is rather more difficult to sell.

I posted some weeks ago that, IMO, we would be looking for net transfer receipts and wage savings of getting on for £20million.  I have seen nor heard anything to change my mind.

7 hours ago, Fraserkirky said:

At this point I’d rather just know for sure if we are skint so I can lower my expectations. I really think we are three signings and two loans away from being a top side in this league, baring no sales. But we have been here before, a lot, teetering on the brink. 
If we are skint, and have to rely on the  academy then that’s fine, I’ll support that as its the only other alternative route to going for it. If that’s the case then Mowbray oot, and Johnson in.

That is almost half a side a way - scary and, IMO, how little we've progressed in three and a half years under Mowbray.

Slow build, evolution, possession football - IMO, it's all cr@p and excuses and it keeps Mowbray in his well paid job!

8 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

I find mowbrays tenure more frustrating than any other rovers manager in history, including the ones we all hate. Just edges ahead of bowyer but at least bowyer was good at the transfer game 

Or perhaps his dad was!?

Just now, roversfan99 said:

This isnt specifically anything to do with Mowbray but it is never too early to get promoted to the benefit of the club. And the quality towards the bottom of the Premier League means that with some calculated and wise spending, its not unfathomable to be competitive.

Also, the notion of it being 2 or 3 more seasons before we are challenging is totally flawed because it implies that the side sticks together and gradually improves. For various reasons that wont be possible and indeed it would be likely that the core of Nyambe, Lenihan, Travis, Dack and Armstrong will all be elsewhere in 3 seasons.

For the gullible!

Just now, Paul Mani said:

Seems premature to be saying this before we’ve even signed a single player though. 

Really?

If you know what you are about then you have a plan and execute it.

Seems to me, we are still groping in the dark!

Think clueless would be a soft adjective.

10 minutes ago, LDRover said:

Falk and the keeper are pretty much guaranteeing big moves this summer with their performances tonight.

Way, way out of our league.

IMO, if Iversen, Muric and Pears are our goalkeeping options then God help us.  Doubt Warnock would touch these with a sh1tty stick. Marshall at Wigan still seems to be the best option to me followed by the French lad we are said to have watched.

Let's be honest, the value lies in Europe, however, the evidence seems our new scouting set-up in Europe has turned up nothing.  You act decisively and make your moves whilst the rest still think about it.

IMO, shambolic planning for recruitment.

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Yep, we definitely cant become dependant on other teams being shite

We need to make a few shrewd improvements to weak areas and Mowbray needs to stop with his nonsensical ideas, false 9s, wide strikers etc and get us playing in a way that is familiar and gets the best out of our players.

But Sheffield Wednesday being deducted 12 points and Bristol City and Bournemouth choosing novices or seemingly more qualified and experienced alternatives is a good start in my opinion.

Don't know too much about Holden's coaching / managerial abilities at Bristol but they seem to have appointed a couple of decent guys to support him (would take them any day over Venus and Lowe) but do know, from relatives down there, that Tindall is very highly rated at Bournemouth and seems, undeservedly, too have lived in Howe's shadow for too long. 

Serious question.

Would any other Championship club take Mowbray?

IMO, there would be no takers - says it all.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Funny enough the Keeper Warnock has been linked is another 22 years keeper called Alex Bass from Portsmouth who has total appearances of 29 games. Yes 29 games. Hardly new battle hardened is he? 

here are link stories for Bass to Boro

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/crystal-palace-joined-middlesbrough-race-portsmouth-keeper-2928489

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/no-bids-middlesbrough-linked-keeper-18737546

I'll bet a pound to every penny you want to wager that Warnock ends up with a keeper that 95% of this MB would approve of versus whoever Mowbray brings in.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

why don't you wait and see who we sign for the transfer positions we want players for until the window is done. You are very judgement and OTT alot of the time. 

Yes his stats are very similar to Raya which is interested. Philips's stats are good.  

Yes 33 days to go and not many signings at this level. 

Also what you have overlooked that the club staff are on furlough and Blackburn is on Covid restrictions meaning that the club has been less active with certain items

Exactly. I think Mikey Delap posted on twitter at the weekend that they only been 8 signings so far 

No excuse.

IMO, small minded penny pinching.

Need a 'can do attitude', cut through the cr@p and excuses and get the feckin job done. 

11 minutes ago, unsall said:

Can you give me a long list of new additions in the championship, not sure you can, let’s wait until everyone starts signing a few before we start the usual club calling.

It's not just about signing new players.

Tell me one positive communique from Rovers since the season ended that would offer fans a slither of hope or optimism.

 “Communication is your ticket to success, if you pay attention and learn to do it effectively.” TG.

Just now, WacoRover said:

It’s frustrating, waiting so long to get new players in. It’s what happened the last two years, and it surely doesn’t help the team. 

19 days since last season ended.

33 days before the new season begins.

I think the silence from Ewood about football matters is deafening.

It should be the duty of Rovers' employees to promote and develop the club, creating a culture, a brand and an identity.

Sadly, I see and hear nothing.  IMO, it's a shambles with the fans being treated like muppets.