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On the market he likely is in reach, Cleary in every single market value I can find is under 1mill. Can scouts possibly have addition contacts with their ears to the ground yes maybe but again back to the main point which was whoever scouted this fella seems on initial viewings of him made a good call but valuations lye with the clubs not the market in which most scouts use

Scouts aren't only supposed to look at players. They're supposed to have contacts, put out feelers. Have a general understanding of whether a player might be realistically in reach. Like you said 'that could possibly fall within their budget'. They don't really have a great sense of that if they've recommended someone who will cost 5 times what we can offer. I think the 28 year old striker one is fair enough to be surprised by, that's an outrageous fee to demand. But the young, promising Cleary was likely always out of reach.

Going back to the chance missed by Doherty yesterday, I remember Leonard missing several of those in a fairly short space of time, either got caught or dragged his shot wide.

Can't recall a post ever creating this much response so quickly

How would scouts know a players final valuation that between the clubs in negotiations they identify players strengths weaknesses and profile the club might be looking for that could possibly fall within their budget th selling club slapping in unrealistic price tag on to a player isn’t the scouts issue or fault let’s take the Barnsley striker coming 29 this year never played above league one 18 months left on contract and he’s valued by his club at 5million? Not realistic nor matches what his real valuation on the open market would be

Who’s the offer from?

The scouts are there to identify players we can potentially afford. We are nowhere near affording this one. Like Ricky said, we can all identify good players the club can't afford. That Adam Wharton looks alright. Messi, Haaland, Gyokeres, they should be able to fix our attacking woes.

I have, but when it's constantly looking for and pointing out negatives, then putting anything remotely positive down to luck, then it all becomes a bit pointless having a discussion.

If this is the case and, as expected, Venkys don't even respond to the offer, the interested buyers need to get hold of the coalition and go public.

Scouts are gone player profiles that the club/manager want all the finances come after so if we have had a scout recommend this fella then fair play

The only way I'd have less trust in a mysterious new bid coming in this week is if Clinton Baptiste was channeling it, and even then I'd be hopeful it's uncle jack from beyond the spiritual plane

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Surely though it’s only relevant if we can actually sign him? If the valuation is £5m and we’re offering 20% of that then surely identifying him is pointless? I could identify loads of players we couldn’t afford.

Haha. No...but last year, I did meet a bloke, who claimed the act.

I'm not sure you've noticed the weather the last 15 years.

Pointless even trying to make anything like a positive comment. Every silver lining has to have a cloud.

Made irrelevant by trying to sign a £5m player for £1m. Maybe it was the other eye that found De Neve, Henriksson, Tavares etc.

To be honest, he looks like he could play anywhere up top, one thing's for sure, someone has got a good eye.

Even if we signed him, he would be our only competent winger. And everything we do seems to be very much building towards always playing a 352.

Still isnt in full training.

It would be more acceptable if those who caused it all and those who profit from it cleared off never to be seen again. A cleansing of all the underlying toxicity gone for good and hopefully a rebuild of some sort however modest.

Unless we wanted to be able to play with wingers

He also is a proper winger so it makes no sense that we identified him really.

Cleary from Barnsley is DEFO not signing for us 😂😂 he’s ripping it up!

Don't tell me, you threw it🤣