when does the transfer window open????

And yet again it's 2 of last seasons best players going and the back up player most likely to score. So the replacements brought in for little or no money will have big holes to fill.

batth is an organiser and leader,we`ll be weaker defensively without him

The idea of us discarding Batth for a younger model only works if we hadnt offered Batth a new deal in the first place. He will undoubtedly be a huge loss. I think we will also need (and probably not get) 4 attacking players. Up front we have Ohashi who is a decent Championship player and Gueye who doesnt really fit in and more often than not is more of a liability than an asset. We need a striker. We will need someone to compete with Cantwell and obviously out wide we need at least 2. Kargbo looks very raw, Hedges cant attack and thats all we have.

But we need to remember why we were desperate for a Danny Batth in the first place. Ideally we'd keep him AND get this lad in but people thinking it's a good idea to lose one and get the other i don't think are looking at the bigger picture. The 'project' line is being swallowed again a bit too much for my liking.

It's not on me to prove you right. For what it's worth, I was ambivalent towards both signings but if Batth falls through our fingers it's another failure.

derby did`nt take him,he left because rovers are a complete shambles

Last summers transfer thread should see you right

He was arguably our player of the season.

Derby came in and took our manager. What hope do we have of stopping a player going there?

All signings are a gamble, the club might be looking at an opportunity where a clause can be triggered to get a bargain price. I like Batth but if we can get this French lad across the line then, for me, it's a good start to the window...At least we know our recruitment team are being slightly adventurous.

If Batth, Dolan and Weiman go. I make that 9 signings needed at a minimum this summer.

Ahhh right I never knew...Thanks

I do not see us spending anywhere near £3M on any individual player, I am assuming we are interested because there is a low release clause which has become active due to their relegation (purely a guess re the clause, but it would make some sense)

You'll only truly know that this time next year whereas we know Batth is a good solid reliable player. Why gamble a fee and longer contract on something we don't know when it's easier and cheaper to get another season out of Batth and see where we are next summer, ie a whole 12 months to plan.

Depends on whether the player is as good or better than Batth. If not it's a poor result. Age is immaterial at a club where contracts aren't handled properly as they will simply walk elsewhere, even if we get some cash it doesn't come back in. Someone younger than Batth on a longer contract but who costs more and is inferior or takes half a season to settle in isn't a good move.

Eddie's view is fair enough. I was replying to Bank End Rover. FWIW I don't see us spending anywhere near E3m on a CB. We seem to be loath to spend half of that on a striker

No, signing a player who is better than Batth, is a better result

Fancy backing this up?

I've no real view on signing this particular player either way other than it is a fairy speculative link and if it came to fruition one very much on the riskier end of the scale. It's using that very tenuous link to justify not re-signing Batth (who is proven at this level) that I don't agree with. It's not part of a grand masterplan to bring the age of the squad down either. We've offered Batth terms but so far he's rejected them.

To be honest that could be said for all transfers

I am assuming from his post yesterday, that Eddie has seen him play

I'm guessing you've never seen this lad play, I certainly haven't, one of those who could be great or could be absolutely terrible I'd assume. Edit: That's assuming we're even genuinely interested in him which we won't be if there's much of a fee involved I don't suppose.

That's because realistically, the chances of us bringing in a younger player who's better than Batth on a longer contract are slim to none and Slim left town some time ago

Means absolutely nothing. Ligue 1 is a tough league with the majority of teams being a lot better than championship clubs...A handful of Luton players walk into our team and they're in league 1.