How long until the end of Venkys?

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Talking gibberish. Lost revenue from PL TV rights has been enormous

If we had simply maintained our position from the day Venkys bought us until now we would have an additional 460m land in the bank. That’s a matter of fact

That's my point but that's hasn't affect the owners decisions maker. 

The Walker Family could held on until the TV rights and used that money 

[Dreams of 1995]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's my point but that's hasn't affect the owners decisions maker. 

The Walker Family could held on until the TV rights and used that money 

Of course it has impacted them

It has meant half a billion less revenue, which has meant a decreased on pitch product and over a decade of mismanagement, culminating in some very embarrassing moments for Rovers

During that time, a certain few people have continued to pocket 6 figure yearly salaries. It pays well to manage a decline

[chaddyrovers]

17 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Of course it has impacted them

It has meant half a billion less revenue, which has meant a decreased on pitch product and over a decade of mismanagement, culminating in some very embarrassing moments for Rovers

During that time, a certain few people have continued to pocket 6 figure yearly salaries. It pays well to manage a decline

Well it hasn't impact them enough to sell the club has it. That's my point

[philipl]

47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's my point but that's hasn't affect the owners decisions maker. 

The Walker Family could held on until the TV rights and used that money 

The Walker Family was at war with each and against their advisors in the High Court. Rovers were just a cash absorbing chattel to the family members. Some Trustees. John Williams and Tom Finn were absolute heroes in those sad circumstances but any concept of strategic thinking and planning was totally binned in those black days.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, philipl said:

The Walker Family was at war with each and against their advisors in the High Court. Rovers were just a cash absorbing chattel to the family members. Some Trustees. John Williams and Tom Finn were absolute heroes in those sad circumstances but any concept of strategic thinking and planning was totally binned in those black days.

interesting. Didn't know they were at war with each other and against their advisors 

[philipl]

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=7fed978f-fcf3-4a99-b0c1-a4f4cd9f44c8

That was the culmination of about 8 years of fighting. A former trustee directly responsible for Rovers also brought and won a case against the Trust over non-payment of fees.

 

[dingles staying down 4ever]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

why would it embarrass them? Yesterday the Hospitality was sold out and the more walk on fans came to the game. Shame it was such a poor performance 

 

Oh well hospitality sold out......that makes everything ok then.

If they carry on that will be the only part of the ground opening then.

 

How many of those walk ons were there to see Disney team? How many walk ons will be there on Sunday? The 10 season ticket holders I go with, there are 3 actually committed to going as the other 7 yesterday was the final straw. 

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Oh well hospitality sold out......that makes everything ok then.

If they carry on that will be the only part of the ground opening then.

 

How many of those walk ons were there to see Disney team? How many walk ons will be there on Sunday? The 10 season ticket holders I go with, there are 3 actually committed to going as the other 7 yesterday was the final straw. 

Well me and the 2 I go with will be there on Sunday and I'm taking my parents to the game, so hopefully its a win for them. 

[Dreams of 1995]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well it hasn't impact them enough to sell the club has it. That's my point

Evidently not. But what’s the overall point you’re making - that everything is futile and nobody should try?

If that’s your angle, then it’s a sad angle. It is a view of defeatism. Resigning yourself to the thought that Venkys will never be impacted enough to sell must be tough. You have seen first hand what 15 years has done to Rovers. Now imagine another 15. It is not outside of the realms of possibility that Rovers cease to be a Championship club at that point. We may be in this position, but in League 1. The general trajectory of BRFC tells you that is where we are heading 

[wilsdenrover]

49 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Evidently not. But what’s the overall point you’re making - that everything is futile and nobody should try?

If that’s your angle, then it’s a sad angle. It is a view of defeatism. Resigning yourself to the thought that Venkys will never be impacted enough to sell must be tough. You have seen first hand what 15 years has done to Rovers. Now imagine another 15. It is not outside of the realms of possibility that Rovers cease to be a Championship club at that point. We may be in this position, but in League 1. The general trajectory of BRFC tells you that is where we are heading 

I think 15 more years of them and we will be far lower than League 1.

[Leonard Venkhater]

58 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Evidently not. But what’s the overall point you’re making - that everything is futile and nobody should try?

If that’s your angle, then it’s a sad angle. It is a view of defeatism. Resigning yourself to the thought that Venkys will never be impacted enough to sell must be tough. You have seen first hand what 15 years has done to Rovers. Now imagine another 15. It is not outside of the realms of possibility that Rovers cease to be a Championship club at that point. We may be in this position, but in League 1. The general trajectory of BRFC tells you that is where we are heading 

Interesting...

This issue comes up a lot in our house. How have Venky's got away without a complete revolt in the fanbase?

After the initial bout of destruction, I think the slow, lingering glacial pace of the downgrading is a key factor here...

Also, there is a problematic (to me)reaction in a proportion of the remaining fanbase, which combines defeatism, fatalism, Stockholm syndrome...and ingrained denial.

[dallydally]

Years I'm afraid. They have no thought or desire to leave. Remember. Indian people are proud and to admit you made a mistake just doesn't happen 

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21 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I think 15 more years of them and we will be far lower than League 1.

The demise will get faster and faster

[Athlete]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well me and the 2 I go with will be there on Sunday and I'm taking my parents to the game, so hopefully its a win for them. 

Stop trying to spin anything into a positive

[Leonard Venkhater]

10 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Years I'm afraid. They have no thought or desire to leave. Remember. Indian people are proud and to admit you made a mistake just doesn't happen 

All 1.5 billion of them haha