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Maybe he'd have done a better job if he was paid in Revels.

Will goalscorer Dack start? If he does it probably won't be in the right position. Will Pickering be back? We know we won't have Brittain. Adam Wharton needs some game time. Another loss I'm afraid, but we get a better performance against Tony's strugglers.

Yes, so we can send him back. The point I was making is that if that's Broughton's idea of a rough diamond, I worry for the future.

I know we're all on a downer with JDT but this has got to be seen as a positive.

I got asked the same by one of our dingle friends on here. The answer is, I'd rather not have either. Pace couldn't afford Blackburn Rovers (for all the wrong reasons). Some day he may not be able to afford Burnley if ever they can't self sustain. He's obviously a very clever guy because if that day ever comes he won't be the one crying, he'll probably have doubled his fortune in the process.

We could be none league and I'd still rather be a Rover.

That's what I meant, it won't last without continual success (or "failure" of parachute payments). I think you'll get promoted and enjoy a few more years of success if I'm honest, but I can't see it being sustainable. If I were batting for your team, I'd be overjoyed with present success but in the back of my mind I'd be wondering who pays the bills if things go South with a dodgy managerial appointment or suchlike. Where you're lucky is I don't think he's completely changed the club and Burnley have been well ran/pragmatic for a while now, with people who actually care about the club. Our executive team run the club like a soulless production line, mass producing tins of failure year after year, which get ever more expensive.

It's still a very risky way to run a small club. He hasn't the personal wealth to finance the club. Like I said his current success is masking the clubs recent failures but it'll get to the point where there's no room for error. I'd say Rovers are the complete opposite. Badly ran, owners have lots of personal wealth, and with it lots of room for error. And f**k me do we keep making them.

Sorry to mention his name again, but when Kean originally came in he promised the owners better football, and his scumbag agent kept banging on about adding value to the squad. I imagine that proviso has never changed. And I don't believe for one minute that JDT signed George Hirst. That was clearly a Venkys order of, find an unpolished gem to develop into a £15m player. Very disappointing and worrying if George Hirst is Gregg Broughtons idea of an unpolished gem.

On present evidence JDT and Mowbray are stubborn to the point of foolishness but Mowbray had a lot longer to prove himself correct, and didn't. Kean shouldn't be in the same conversation. Took down the club almost single handed.

I was a bit unfair about Mowbray earlier in the thread. To be clear, Mowbray was nowhere near as bad as Coyle, and in a different universe to Kean. But he wasn't as self sacrificing and saintly as some believed.

That's a massive knee jerk reaction. And that's coming from someone who had several of them on Saturday in the match day thread. It's nowhere near as bad as Coyle and Mowbray. Kean, ffs. Those were the darkest days you can imagine. I'm amazed the club is still in business. Rovers have played well this season, we've ran some teams ragged. The defence have played exceptionally well on occasion, holding on to leads like never under Mowbray. Let's keep some faith that we're just having a bad run at the moment, something clicks and it'll turn around.

That's true but that doesn't stop me hoping that Alan Pace brings more misery to Burnley. He's doing a great job of distracting their fans from his failings but it could easily all go wrong. He's got a long way to match Venkys and co but let's not forget he's a rich fella spending the clubs own money at the moment and praying it doesn't run out. If Burnley don't get promoted I suspect they'll go the same way as us with the exception that the taps will be completely turned off.

He was a stubborn old goat who neglected the defence, favoured possession over 3 points, kept playing strikers on the wing, midfielders up front, and kept signing them to do so too. That stubborn that he threw away a fantastic opportunity for promotion because of his documented belief that we don't play with centre forwards, and that Ben Brereton would continue to stay fit and score in the second half of the season. Even though he knew he was due international duty and someone needed to fill his shoes. I can say that confidently, from five years of watching his teams continually fail, he was as pragmatic as a pair of glass socks. Even though I'm disappointed with JDT he's got a long way to go before we can label him as stubborn, foolish and illogical as Tony Mowbray.

Brereton is due a goal. Every three games he plays like a superstar. I think on this occasion he'll save it till boxing day.

Maybe wishful thinking from a Rovers fan, but I think with the last decade we've had our fair share of death spirals, injury lists and managerial tactical suicide dives to know how it can all go wrong.

A better chance we'll keep George Hirst.

We "chased" George Hirst all Summer for his signature as a loanee. You loaned Nathan Tella. Our new director of football certainly set his stall out with that one. I think that sums up the differences between the two clubs at the moment. One wants to add value to the club, the other wants to add value to players.

It's difficult to judge the pair but Morton's had 16 games + 5 sub appearances. Wharton's played 6 matches + 3 sub appearances. Wharton is clearly more skillful but has played a lot less. Morton has been less spectactular but has played well this season. Recently his form has dipped - arguably since paired with Travis in midfield.

They also take too many touches when they are under pressure. A moment later they are on the floor and the opposition has the ball.

Against Preston at home we should have started with a back 4 from the off. A back five takes away anything good about Hedges and Brittain. And we don't have the midfielders to play with a back five so it shouldn't be an option.

You'd need almost a full team to make it work. I remember managers in the past being fawned over by the media for them playing a passing game. "Doing it the right way." "Playing the game how it should be." Truth is their teams played terrible football and they all got their teams relegated eventually. Where are they now?

Brittain will never be a left wing back. Hedges will never be a right wing back. Dack will never be a striker. Scott Wharton will never be a great passer, he may well turn out to be a great defender. I don't know what Travis is trying to be but it's a pale imitation of a footballer. Send Mola, Morton and Hirst back and bring in some experienced professionals. The only thing that JDT gets a pass for is he inherited such an unbalanced and thin squad, and he did at least want to sign some decent players but they went elsewhere. Broughton has to shoulder some of the blame for that, and for not identifying and fixing weaknesses in midfield and up front. If he doesn't rectify this in January then the writing is on the wall.

Better off signing a left back as that's where he'll play him.

This is his main problem with team tactics and with individual player roles.