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3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:
should have been done weeks ago. Gestede or Waggott should have been speaking publicly after Eustace wanting to go Derby and after that was confirmed, They should be proactive but yet they didn't. The club should be more media friendly and more open with supporters. When Ismael was appointed, Gestede and Waggott should be out there stating why Ismael was selected and why he was the right fit.
It's took direct action to drag them out bud,
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19 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:Really impressive effort and thank you but if there are more videos we need the message to be clear it's "Venky's Out"... the media and supporters of other clubs need to understand exactly what we want. That would be my constructive criticism.
Every video needs to end with "Venky's Out" written in your express yourself text... if this is the theme of the movement.
Will take on board
At the moment it's about getting a voice of 5 to become a voice of 100, to become 1000, to become 10000 and so on.
Each person unique and one person's gripe is not always another's and vice versa. Trying to get 100% acceptance is impossible.
As a cross section of people, it's got one spectrum to the next, from all out gorilla warfare to protecting those against action.
Being democratic is very hard to strike middle ground.
We've a phased plan.
Mission 1 complete,
1. shadow man doing radio interviews tomorrow. Last week that looked impossible.
2. Club have had to respond hastily to supporter statement, a first under venkys.
3. National media spotlight back on them.
4. Extremely minimal opposition in supporter base.
We are now in phase 2
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3 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:
Is someone getting SUEd?
Media interviews with the shadow,
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Rovers media will be in fullllllllll swing tomorrow.
Intel suggesting Rita, Bob and SUE too, yep you read that right SUE too will be talking to Media on charm offensive .
Meanwhile at the coalition HQ, that 5 minure warning coming soon.
#express yourself
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6 minutes ago, 47er said:
Best way to deal with this is for Glen or whoever to get the media to put these various rumours to Rovers and ask them to deny or confirm then.
We can't lose. If they have to deny rumours such as players not being paid, then that is embarrassing for them.
If they don't deny them, that's a big story in itself.
Heading "Rovers refuse to deny some players haven't been paid" or "Rovers do not deny some first-team players have been told to find another club."
I like it!.
You know me too well 😉
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3 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:This is the time people do need to be careful on spreading rumours because as others have said, if they are untrue they will massively backfire and play into the club's hands:
"Yes half the things they're posting about online and protesting about simply aren't true, we can't take them seriously, they're creating problems that aren't there, they're affecting the team negatively, we all need to be united" etc
Just to reiterate this,
Defamation laws are not to be messed with.
I'm already getting daily alleged ITK messages and it can distract from the goals.
Also remember social media is scanned by many and I don't condone or support threats of violence or activity which could be deemed criminal.
We are questioning quite correctly, experience, competency and ability to perform the functions that certain people are paid to do within the club
We are questioning the perceived mismanagement and lack of transparency, where supporters appear to be low on the agenda.
We are questioning absent owners and their appetite to take the club forwards.
Legals are already being suggested from those within , so just be careful
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19 hours ago, Ashley said:
I’ve sent you a reply on x Glen, can you follow me so I can send you a message
I sent u dm on here , not seen ur x post
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2 hours ago, glen9mullan said:
Some news during the night, being alleged
Michael Cairney's role will be DOF, hence it's not been stated.
Rudy Gestede will replace CEO Waggott at the end of the season.
Ham has been banned from training ground.
Source of information is usually 100%
Another source, stating not all the above is accurate.
So for now it can only be taken as a rumour, as both sources are pretty good.
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4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:
Or this was plan from the summer why Waggott stayed on for a year and let Gestede get appointed into a different role and bit by bit learning and maybe even doing some of the work would be doing.
Didn't someone said on here Gestede had an interview plan for Tuesday. Wonder if this was the story and when announcement would be made
Don't give them ideas lol,
I'd like to add something but can't bar this news will hit them in the pocket significantly. No wonder marketing man quit!!!
As per the last movement, many of their closest aids are breaking rank.
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Some news during the night, being alleged
Michael Cairney's role will be DOF, hence it's not been stated.
Rudy Gestede will replace CEO Waggott at the end of the season.
Ham has been banned from training ground.
Source of information is usually 100%
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Forgot to mention, the beauty of being a cross section, in particular around groups, is each groups function to their members don't cease. Which allows multiple actions which sit correctly with its members.
Friday will see action 10000% , whilst a campaign has been signed off also which is in final draft after work over the weekend. I personally like the end result, and bar some tweaks will be launched at a set time. Again this time has been carefully co-ordinated for a number of reasons which I will update after the event.
Some hard graft going in behind the scenes , with different people tasked with different things.
Hopefully people remain open minded, as we are attacking this in a more modern theatre, for maximum impact and message.
No doubt the moles are reading, second guessing, whilst reporting back to those we wish to oust.
As this phase reaches its conclusion my attention is already on with phase 3, and 4.
We are still looking for people willing to do media, podcasts and other forms of interview. So please reach out if you are happy to do some of this #expressyourself
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14 minutes ago, Polky said:
@glen9mullan Are there any ideas to target the owners via the Indian media?
I imagine some Indian journalists will be wary to target them due to the size of the company and their power.
With the court case at the minute they’re hardly in the good books of the government. We could try and ruffle some feathers with a sustained press attack of the next couple of months.
Lots being discussed and social media being scanned by everyone for consensus, ideas.
Its not an easy thing to unpick all bones especially with lots of groups and individuals.
Each opinion matters, but it does take more time than when it's only one group.
It's good to have this coalition of opinions because we've also got a great blend of skills sets too.
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27 minutes ago, funny-old-game said:
Glen. Do you think Venkys are now just using us to offset profits from their other businesses?
No
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20 hours ago, TheRoversGRL said:Reflection
When I joined the trust, I wanted to help with social media and the communications aspect. Something which I love and enjoy to this day. I wanted increase engagement with members and on social media.
Yesterday, I took the decision to resign from the role because I can’t sit back and allow the club to die. I’m all for trying things; but statements won’t cut it from fans perspectives. They want action, someone to put their views too and I felt like WATR wasn’t acknowledging members views or reading the room. Fans and members alike have reached boiling point.
WATR are not a protest group; nor I expect that to change. I don’t wish no malice or distress against other members, but what is a meeting going to achieve at this stage? Have we asked members what they want us to do? Have members been asked if they want the MOU ripped up? If the owners wanted to speak to anyone. They would have done it now. They don’t care about the club and neither do the people running it apart from a few. If Steve cared, we should have got a meeting as soon as the January Transfer window was closed
Yesterday could have been great. All supporters group together with one message.
Put down the tea and biscuits. Ask members what they want. This club needs new ownership.
Talking to the club has become a pointless exercise, it's also been used as a yardstick to claim supporter engagement
The fans forum ain't spoken to them for near on 5 months. This is unacceptable, whilst the trust represents only it's membership base which is less than 1% of the supporter base
There has been no meaningful communication from either the club or anyone meeting the club neariy all season.
We are at the point of no return, the club has clearly taken the wrong advice, and no amount of grovelling is going to change the landscape. Their approval rating is probably at the lowest of any administration the club has had, certainly in my life time of over 45 years.
We saw this week a shift, not since Shagnew have the fans took a stand. These cretins are pussy cats in comparison.
I genuinely think they thought approval to action would gather no traction,
They should of read the history books, as previous action as ended with the executives departure, and this will end the same way.
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"Express yourself" 😉
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3 minutes ago, Kernow Rover said:
Nixon's deflections & snark to any Rovers fan who questions him re our situation is beyond farcical. For a journalist who postures to know more than most about what is going on behind the scenes at Rovers, he's not very subtle about who he serves (& it's not the Patreons). Waggott 'supremo' up there with Jim White rant for me.
Credit to Elliott Jackson, who has been reluctant to bite the hand that feeds him in the past, but is stepping up now. Wouldn't be surprised if they're threatening to cut off/reduce his access.Elliot been a breath of fresh air tbh, he's getting scraps from club, and says it as it is
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Understandably there is a lot of emotion around on social media tonight.
The working group is quite large now and as you'd imagine lots of emotion in there too.
I find I usually need 24 hours of reflection.
As a supporter base we created credits this week in the media. It's critical we remain in credit and phase 2, is precise , well thought out and does not alienate either the media or supporter base.
There is a number of ideas being discussed, however at the same time, emotions can cloud your thought process after a loss.
What we do next will make or break us in terms of credibility. If we turn the media off; we are on our own, and those we wish to remove wins .
Equally if we divide the supporter base, we become part of the problem and not the solution.
Lets see what we can achieve over the next day or two in terms of a collective move forwards on the chess board.
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Lots and lots of people been involved with this @Madon @J*B@Songman @garner1971 plus the groups
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2 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:
Have you a ‘tactic’ for if Waggott and Pasha are removed but the owners remain?
Its a coalition of fans including you, collectively we need to work together to find the right solution
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2 hours ago, Upside Down said:
Ideally, all the different groups would be united under the WATR umbrella and we all move as one.
There's a lack of transparency with The Trust and a disconnect with the membership. This needs addressing immediately.
Working in Unity is crucial.
The trust no longer represent my views, which is tough to say as someone who helped Wayne get it off the ground, as one of the first members and a former secretary.
So the likelihood of people joining under this one banner is extremely unlikely.
I'd hoped they would of joined the supporters cause as others had prior to yesterdays release. Since the release more groups have joined the coalition including Proud Rovers and we won't be far off a full suite as support grows.
The bargaining chips with the club become less when you flat refuse to work with other supporters and groups, without even knowing or taking the opportunity to influence the direction.
Right now if the club stated it was raining tomorrow I'd be wearing my sunglasses.
The continued lip service to keep them in the board room longer is tiresome.
The club requires a strong senior leadership team, and cannot prosper under either these owners or it's current exec team.
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6 hours ago, TheRoversGRL said:
I completely understand. I genuinely do. I have wanted to communicate more with members. It’s not been easy believe me. I will not be stopping in terms of trying to get the message out there. I’m going to speak to Glen & see if I can help in anyway too.
Welcome aboard, been great getting to know you this evening.
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24 minutes ago, bluebruce said:In fact, if there has been a misstep, I don't think it's targeting Gestede, but I do wonder a bit about the timing. The game tomorrow (today now) is away. I feel like maybe it would've been better to release this Tuesday or Wednesday. A couple of days for it to stew and simmer before the home game on Friday would've been perfect I think, for them to get a bucket load of abuse. As it is, there is a week (and maybe a good result) inbetween, and fans may lose interest or find ways to justify it all to themselves as their Stockholm syndrome has time to kick in.
I'm curious (to those who organised it), is this timing because of the Venkys court case being delayed again, or was the timing around home matches considered and there is something I'm missing?
The timing to release at 9am today was for these reasons.
1. We have to legally notify the club if a press release is imminent if we name individuals.
2. With international break just ended, we knew it be slow news day bar press conferences today, so for this to go National (we are championship so less air time) it was perfect slot
3. We knew club had a big PR campaign on route about backing the team, whilst Gestede has interviews lined up Tuesday. We also knew the manager had his presser today and it would scew the script they intended to brief him on.
4. We knew by giving them the heads up yesteday they'd be fumbling a reaction to a potential protest. They'd called a senior leadership meeting to head this off, unbeknown to them our unity message both screwed their PR campaign and every response they thought they had covered.
5. We expected them to refuse the request to not attend, whereas in essence they now become the protest organisers.
6. We expected this stance giving us a whole week to plan for next Fridays game, a phase 2.
7. The story which has run today has played out 100% as we expected, which now makes us stronger because we have their measure.
We had to take a risk, i think even our own supporters were expecting a protest to be called and a rant at venkys. We measured the risk of by pushing for pre 10am traction. We'd already primed the media and done some market intelligence to see how it would land with the media.
Experience has certainly paid off here, understanding what we did previously, what worked , what didn't, but also being cute. It was always going to end supporters 1 v 0 board, today. However their statement has probably just made it 2-0, as they are clearly on the ropes, before we've even turned up the heat.
This is our first coalition action but we are already moving with the next. This one's history.
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9 minutes ago, roverandout said:
Did Glen say Broughton doesn't communicate with the fans? Is he aware he left the club?
No , I stated Gestede, whilst also stating at least Broughton didn't let contracts run out
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Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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BBC I believe