For all Bowyer's faults at least he made sure we actually had centre backs at the club!

In all honesty were any of us expecting more than midtable with our defence? The only reason anyone got their hopes up is because TM opened his big mouth. He keeps doing it more and more with talk of "easier fixtures" and points targets that clearly this squad just aren't capable of hitting. He needs to either walk or shut up and do his job properly.

Thing is, the see us go out and play as badly as we are doing and then seem confused why no one wants to spend what little hard earned cash and time they have to watch that rubbish. No one wants to watch a team put in minimum effort and collapse the moment the tiniest bit of pressure comes their way. Even in the position we are in, if our team was fighting tooth and nail to protect leads like we used to under Hughes, Allardyce etc I think a few more might turn up. Not stadium filling of course, but at least there would be a team to be proud of.

As I said before, the system invites the mistakes and has done for a long time. We take the lead and instead of going for the jugular we always sit back and let the pressure build. This will always lead to mistakes when we have such a shockingly poor defensive unit, which again is set up by the manager. The players can take responsibility for the errors they committed sure, but the reasons they happen 2 or 3 times a game is down to the manager and he can't keep using it is an excuse.

The question has to be asked though - with these "individual errors" coming at scores every game, how much of that is down to a dreadful training regime and poor shape? Different sport admittedly but England made a bunch of individual errors during the NZ game - the difference is that every single one of their team mates were there and ready to cover tracks and back each other up. How often under Mowbray have we worked as a cohesive team unit with a gameplan? If you have no plan, when pressure comes the team doesn't have the tools to deal with it, and for me that comes down to management/coaching fundamentally.

Watched the rugby then went out this afternoon to avoid the football, expecting a powder puff performance and it sounds like the boys delivered again. Glanced at my phone 15 minutes in but still had no faith in us even getting a point out of the game because our manager doesn't have an ounce of tactical nous left (if he ever had any) in his noggin. Time's up Tony, for the love of god please step aside and let someone else have a go, they can hardly be any worse at this point.

No attempt at winning yet another turgid away game, no style of play evident regardless of what he says. I'd rather Damien Johnson was in charge at the weekend than Mowbray at this point, at least he might have some new ideas.

No changes, can't wait for him to wait until the 80th minute then shore up the defence with Evans for the last 10 minutes.

I guess the question now is just how many do PNE put past us at the weekend? ?

I've heard this time and time again, and TM himself keeps banging on about "team in transition" but I for one couldn't care less. I'd rather hoof it and win every game 1-0 then do whatever TM thinks we're doing, have 1 shot every other game but shipping 2+ goals every game.

Hi all, I frequent a couple of other smaller Rovers boards, and have been watching this board for some time, I thought it was about time I got round to posting!