That sentence alone makes them unfit to run a football club.

All of them but JDT and mayyybe Eustace were definitely on the scrapheap at the time they arrived here.

Batth was let go by Sunderland because they improved their squad to challenge for promotion and actually spend money. We clearly have no interest in promotion based on the last 10 years, nor do we have two pennies to rub together, so we're shopping in a completely different basket. He's still leagues ahead of anything it looks like we'll spend on. Doesn't mean he isn't good for our level, just not good enough for teams at the top end with real ambition and financial backing.

Hyam still playing every minute is as much an indictment on our recruitment than anything, but in any case that wasn't my point at all. My point was that if I was to choose out of Travis, Brittain, Tronstad and Hyam he's by far the least important to the team. Batth is clearly the bigger loss of the two CBs.

It would be sods law if he was the the only one who signed - of all the players with a year left he's probably the one I wouldn't care about leaving. Any time he doesn't have someone more experienced next to him he's a complete liability.

Brittain was a significant cog in our late season resurgence at the end of last season. As with the other positions we have, we'll replace them with European relegation candidates with zero league experience and pray that they can do something. There is only so long this kind of "strategy" can pay off before you begin tumbling down the leagues. We might just be very lucky that Sheff Weds and Hull are in a direr position than we are.

Our squad depth is appalling and one of the main reasons we will never get promoted under this ownership.

Fair enough, I tend to pay little attention to them and suspect that shirt is a bit before my time. In any case, use the colours of the crest more, not just one of them.

Longer than that right? I'm sure they were talking about it in April. Constant talk of action and nothing happening - has always been the Venkys MO.

These kits are alright, but not for this season. As others have said, this shirt should have had the BwD coat of arms on, and possibly some gold trim. I'd argues green and black halves makes more sense than the two greens as well. For the home, I get that there is going to be an "anniversary" kit but a Port Vale style throwback would have been nice too. The one we have has absolutely nothing special about it. As with everything Venkys, it's minimal effort to try and extract as much money out of the core fanbase as possible without offering anything in return.

Maybe it's just me but it's hard to consider a club "competitive" as a fan or a player if they have just chosen to be relegated. Who would want to be part of a team that could never be promoted because they don't want to invest in success?

It was the same at Barca, they were much better to watch after he went because they became so much more explosive, He's been successful with vast riches but he's changed football for the worse to be sure.

Fantastic! Guardiola is a horrible loser and seeing proper fans get to celebrate will always be a plus.

Wasn't he pointing out the head injury? Anyway, for me any rivalry with Palace is so long ago that a large majority of fans for both teams will have no idea about it. I'll take any club beating one of the the Sky 6 (obvious exceptions aside), especially one with a Rover in the starting 11. So far so good but there's a long way to go.

I thought the owners can put in whatever money they wanted and there was no issues? If so, the women's team should be easy enough to maintain. Of course, that was nonsense soundbites to appease sycophants and the ignorant.

Whatever your thoughts on Dolan, it's yet another example of the "inject young players and sell on for a profit" model that Rudy mentioned that just fails to make any sense at any level. Either tie them down or sell them on, stop letting players go for free!

Always was apart from the odd 24 hour blip.

It's nice that we're basically giving him the option to get a number of them for free or as little as possible. Amazing forward planning by the board.

If there's anything as likely as Rovers losing to relegation contenders it's them turning up after all hope of actually achieving something is actually gone. That said, much improved today!

I'll never be disappointed that we've won a game and am pleased with the win, but I'm not going to pretend that anything has changed like others seem to think, especially considering the wider picture. We play like that against most of the clubs in the leagues and we're coming away with nothing, and its likely next season the squad is even worse. You've answered your own question.

We beat a poor Luton team, and did basically nothing of note all game. Yeah, they obviously had the man advantage for a little while but this was still a relegation level performance against a team that look like they might struggle even in League One. I'm not buying into the narrative I keep seeing on social media that this is some kind of miracle turnaround following the Sheff Weds second half.

Glad for the win but no need to get carried away. We scraped our way past the worst side in the division and are still showing me nothing to suggest Ismael is a good choice for manager.

Ohashi is leagues better than Gueye and we missed him a lot. Still think that he shouldn't be starting in a team with ambition, but certainly a valuable squad player.

Anyone who doesn't have hamstrings made of Weetabix is an improvement on JRC at this point unfortunately.

You know full well the fact we came back from 2 down has given Ismael at least another 6 months in the job though.