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[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I would ay Benni looking decent comes a lot down to having in Di Santo an ideal partner. Di Santo does everything Benni won't - runs the channels, pushes right up against the back line, wins the ball in the air, is physical, holds up the ball. This allows Benni to drop off, float and find space and play facing the goal. The Argentine much better partner for benni than he has had over the last three years - Roque was too similar to Benni in where he plays, and Derbyshire too lightweight. Roberts worked better but Jase can't win anything in the air which was a major problem, plus has extremely poor technique. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Sorry mate, no chance! No way you can have Diouf, Dunn, McCarthy and Di Santo in the same team. If we were going to play both Dunn and McCarthy (which I doubt will really happen) then the only real way to do it imo is:- ------Di Santo------McCarthy ---------------Dunn ----Grella---NZonzi----Emerton Givet--Nelsen---Samba---Chimbonda -------------Robinson Its fair enough having a lot of attacking players but we need to keep defensive solidarity which means having the fitness and the workrate on the pitch. Also I could see McCarthy and Dunn crowding each other as they operate in the same areas. I personally would go for one or the other in the hole and Kalinic and Di Santo up front running the channels and the back line. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Diamond formation anybody? -----------Di Santo-----Roberts ------------------McCarthy -----------Dunn-----------Emerton -------------------NZonzi Givet----Samba-----Nelsen----Chimbonda -----------------Robinson -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I don't really agree with that. He hasn't looked that good, easily pushed off the ball, drops too deep. As a lone striker he is awful. Under Allardyce and the lHughes last season he has looked poor the vast majortiy of the time. However I do agree he has something to offer with another more mobile player alongisde to give him room - we have three more of those than we did last year (Di Santo, Kalinic and Hoilett). Personally I would be tempted to play 442 against Pompey if Dunn isn't looking too hot in training (seemed very lacklustre against Utd). Let Benni play, see what he can do. He did look good on Sat (although still massively overweight!). If Dunni s playing well Benni will have to sit on the bench. Can't drop him, and not convinced we can play him central in a 442 midfield. -
To be fair both Stead and Gray had a period where they were outstanding for us. Really really good. Around about Autumn 2003 when we beat Man Utd.
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[Archived] Champions League
joey_big_nose replied to Oklahoma's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Interesting. I wonder why? We haven't got any money and a very full squad... -
[Archived] More Madness From Mcclaren
joey_big_nose replied to RevidgeBlue's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
To be fair his record is one of the finest for any england manager ever, and in terms of the quality of players we were very very far off Brazil. Capello looks the business though, and has the advantage of having better players at his disposal. The crucial thing for him has been the emergence of Barry who balances the side in a way we have never been able to before. Still however in terms of raw player talent we are miles behind Spain, Brazil and Argentina. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Agreed. McCarthy is the second most technically gifted player I have seen play for Rovers (just behind Tugay, just ahead of Bentley). His touch is exceptional. However he has also been extremely lazy over the last two seasons. His saving grace is that Di Santo or Kalanic may be able to bring more out of him than Cruz, Derbyshire or Roberts did. They are two different sorts of player, and Kalanic in particular has pace that Benni could use to make himself the space he needs. It will be interesting to see how he works with the new guys. If he doesn't get sold first that is! -
I once saved a penalty from him when I was twelve! RIP Bobby Robson. Legend.
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[Archived] Champions League
joey_big_nose replied to Oklahoma's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Thats possibly the stupidest post I have read on this messageboard. How many trophies have Man Utd won? With only two of that "golden generation" getting any playing time at all, and then mostly from the subs bench. Daft. The thing that has kept the Utd steamroller going is the awesome amount of money they genrate from the CL and their marketing/stadium, combined with a fantastic manager in Ferguson. I hate the monotony of it. They are weak in some areas though, especially if they get injuries. But no doubt Fergie will buy to cover those areas and it will be the same next year. -
[Archived] Champions League
joey_big_nose replied to Oklahoma's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
lovely pun! Ferguson's top heavy team was exposed tonight quite badly. Four of the best forward players/winger around, three of the best defenders/full backs, and a decent creative player in Carrick. But they had no one to break up the play at all. The loss of Fletcher was a big blow (never thought I would say that!) Man Yoo always buy one 30 million player a season. It will be a midfield "destroyer" this time I think, which they will need to compete against Chelsea and Liverpool. -
[Archived] Wayne Rooney,role Model?
joey_big_nose replied to Mr Maureen's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Steven Gerrard would probably have something to say about that on current form. I wonder if Capello can get those two to work up front together? Bizarre combination - niether are strikers really, but it could have benefits. And all our "proper forwards" are very average. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Well I think a lot of us owe Benni a tip of the hat, if not apologies exactly, for writing him off - myself included. He has completely turned his form and commitment around and looks like a first rate goal scorer again. He seems properly comitted to the club as well which is a massive bonus. I have said it once or twice before but in terms of raw talent we probably have the greatest strike force ever assembled in Rovers colours - McCarthy, Cruz, Roberts and Diouf (although it is somewhat negated by the fact by the quality of strikers across the Premiership as a whole is very little short of awesome). The range and style of the four is enormously varied, and three of them are prodigiously technically gifted. Sure we had Shearer and Sutton who were brilliant and of course would start if we had them in their prime today. But when have whe had four quality strikers to choose from??! The issue is how do we use them all effectively (and get Cruz to find form) - especially considering how threadbare our midfield is, which will limit the supply. I can see Benni adding seven or eight before the season is out. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Benni has always been a great man in front of the Press. If he had not been blessed with such enormous footballing talent he could be a PR man. However experience does tell us that there is quite a big gap between what he says to the camera and what he actually thinks and performs on the pitch. I hate being cynical but is hard to take his comments at face value. That said there are a few things worth remembering: 1) He is now past 30 and it is concievable that he recognises he will not get a move to a CL club now, and that he actually does like Rovers as a team to play for. 2) He desperately wants to play for, and even captain, South Africa at their world cup. To do so will require being settled and scoring goals. Another move (more than likely sideways to Sunderland or Wigan or whoever) could undermine that. 3) Allardyce may well appeal to him as a manager. No way of knowing but it is possible. 4) From our point of view he is a player who has never relied on pace or physicality. There is absolutely no reason why he could not be a good (or even get better as a) player into his mid thirties. Like Tugay he relies on technique and cleverness, and these attributes do not fade as fast as pace and muscular strength. THe one big issue with this is that he does need to keep his shape, which is something he failed to do over last summer. I can see him being effective until he is 35. He is a tough player to accomodate into a team due to his style, but with Jason doing the donkey work to make him effective he could go from strength to strength. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
If anyone is going to spend 20m on Roque in the form he is in they are a nut bar. Can only happen if Man City back Hughes which I doubt they will. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
In a standard 442? That would be interesting... not sure Roque would be too keen on it, and I doubt he would do a disciplined job there so the right back would not get much protection. Potentially what we could do is 4312? ----------Roberts-------Cruz ----------------McCarthy ----Pedersen---Grella----Dunn Warnock--Ooijer---Samba---Emerton ----------------Robinson I could see it working up front but it might leave us short on width and vulnerable on the counter. Dunn would be reduced to a workhorse too. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I'm not sure what you we watching! There was a lot of movement around (as all strikers do), not one coveringeither side. The first peanlty came from Benni on the left, and the South African did drop off a fair bit. The one change seemd to be that when Stoke gained possession it was Roberts who would drop back and defend while mcCarthy would stay up front (previously when they have played together it has usually been the other way round). For a guy who is not really a "target man" Benni did a very good job of holding up the ball against a a big set of defenders, and it did mean he would more regularly be playing off the back line. I just can't see how Cruz and McCarthy will work, they bring too much of the same stuff to the party. We shall see though, I am sure Cruz will get a chance from the bench against Sunderland. But when it happens watch how they move off each other. It is just never convincing. If we could upgrade Roberts to a big powerful striker, who is good in the air and has pace, and good technique and finishing we would be laughing. But then I think his name is either Eto'o or Drogba... -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I would love for Benni and Cruz to be an effective pairing but I just can't see how it will work. Both of them want to be the focus, they drop into the same areas. Sam would need to get Cruz to change his game - run the channels, play right up against the back line, play a very physical role - while McCarthy drops off. It is hard to make a leopard change it spots. I am sure Sam will be giving it some thought though. -
[Archived] Lucas Neill
joey_big_nose replied to juggalo_rover's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Carragher just sounds like a self important tosser. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Thats what I would do I think. McCarthy seems a little delusional....? He must know he is out of shape. -
[Archived] Benni Mccarthy - Gone
joey_big_nose replied to adam lodge's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Hmm. I don't know what we can do about Benni. He appears to have given up the ghost. Unless someone desperate comes in it is hard to see how we can move Benni and get in enough for someone like Ollic or Pinto (both quoted at circa 5m). I think there is a real chance given his shape and his attitude that he will just mug it out on the bench until we sell him for a massively reduced fee to someone or other in January. The only way I can see him recovering as a force for us up front is if Cruz is unavailable, and therfore McCarthy gets a shot with Roberts. Those two can work together imo. That said he will get a crack against Grimsby.... I am sure Cruz will be rested so maybe Benni can show us he still has something. -
[Archived] Mark Hughes - Good Choice ?
joey_big_nose replied to Ste B's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I think he was very fired up for last season with Rovers, but after we got the stuffing knocked out of us in November a little unexpectantly it seemed Hughes decided that he had had enough. The vibe appeared to be that Hughes felt we had the best squad we could possibly have under him and it still did not really cut it. Everybody needs to move on and I guess Sparky looked at it rationally and asked "how can I improve my repuatiation if I stay?". Fact is he would have to either win a trophy or finish in the top four to get more serious Kudos from being Rovers manager, whereas a modicum of success with City - with the advatage of (perhaps only percieved....) transfer funds - could seriously enhance his prospects. Ince has the desire which is crucial, he has ambition with his signings, and he seems to have an interestng way to make us play. I would like him to be as devoted to preperation as Sparky was, I hope he keeps it up with fitness and pro zone and everything. I am looking forward to his first season in charge. -
[Archived] Mark Hughes - Good Choice ?
joey_big_nose replied to Ste B's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
He says what it required I guess, thats part of the way he approaches things. From his point of view when all the talk is of City etc the thing with the most value in the present tense and showing commitment to the new position. When he joined Rovers he didn't spend much time eulogising about managing the Welsh national team. I wouldn't do it the way he has gone about it, but he isn't acting any differently to how he has conducted himself as a manager since he started his career. -
[Archived] Mark Hughes - Good Choice ?
joey_big_nose replied to Ste B's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
He's actually said quite a lot of good things about the club and the chairman. The only bad thing he has said as far as I understand is that we don't have much money. That is accurate. I do think working for someone like Thaiksin is more than questionable, but he hasn't said anything out of order. He is a robust guy who says what he needs to say for the best sort of outcome - for example when Rovers play poorly but Sparky claims that Rovers were the better side, or claiming that one of our players who clearly should have been sent off was not guilty, or - most ludicrously of all - claiming that he was never interested in the Chelsea job at the unveiling conferance at City! Its an effective approach, it worked for us so he will continue to use it at City. Ferguson, Mourinho, Benitez and Wenger are all precisely the same. If we get Ten Cate for example I would imagine a similar approach. -
[Archived] Mark Hughes - Good Choice ?
joey_big_nose replied to Ste B's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Christ! Only five decent players in that lot: Freidel, Niell, Emerton, Tugay, Dickov. I can't believe there are 4 left backs on the pitch!