It's Dunn for Christsake Drog! No e! To be honest I'm with you in that I think Dunn is far more likely to play on the wings and as a second striker than as a central midifielder. Of course he will get a chance there from time to time but you have to say that it is unlikely that if other more defensively stable midfielders are available he will play there. If he wants to make central midfield his own he is going to need to not just be fit but ultra fit, as savage and Reid are. Tugay has the luxery of beinga bona fide genius to allow him to play without real pace and power.

Not neccessarily true, he couldbe going for a change of scenary and a new challenge. Money will play a part too of course. It's his life, all the best to him. I wonder if a certain Ukrainian international could be at Ewood by the weekend?

To be fair to Dunny that is asking for him to play with his career. He will want to get things sorted. The longer he waits the more chance there is that he could get injured or interest wane in him and he has to stay on in uncertain circumstances at birmingham. I can easily understand the attraction in taking the Bolton offer, in his situation I would seriously consider it. They are looking like outside bets for the CL this season. The concern of being left adrift at Brum will weigh heavily on his mind. That said it really does seem like Bruce is forcing him toward Bolton. THe reason for this can only be either a) to get one over Hughes, Provoke Rovers into exceeding the Bolton bid.

Did we get a sell on for Duff? I don't remember mention of it. And I think Stead went for 1.25m rather than 3m.

I guess it depends if Rovers have got anyone else lined up. If not then we have to sign Dunn, simple as that.

Seconded, while Derbs wsn't fantastic and missed some sitters he certainly wan't poor. The qualit of his performance matched that of McCarthy who, while being much better on the ball, did not find it as often as the blackburn lad. No complaints from me if Nonda starts the next game but I will be amazed if Derbyshire doesn't make quite a few more appearences as the season progresses.

45k a week? That can't be right, or he is seriously deluded. I cannot see any club paying him that. Even if Liverpool do come in I would guess themost he could hope for is 30k, and really its much more likely to be near the 20k mark.

To be fair from his position he knows he might have another injury before the summer or that Hughes could leave or whatever and he would be high and dry. It's his decision, remember we got rid of him once, if he doesn't want to come here I don't mind. Such is life. From a completely objective point of view he would be a decent signing for the nature of the fee that Bolton are offering to pay and would be quality cover fro the whole midfield. But if we don't get him thats fine, hardly any sort of disaster

He might have signed for them as a result of us turning him down on the medical. Or the wages could be significantly higher than the pay as you play deal we might have offered. It's hard to say. Also while the fee has been agreed it has not mentioned personal terms so Dunny might delay to see if Rovers match the bid. It will be interesting. You sir have an excellent memory. Probably wouldn't change back despite my current name being ridiculous, Dunn was England quality player when he left, now I am not so sure.

Thats how this messageboard, and many others, goes. Its daft. Loads of people (although not all by any stretch of the imagination) getting their jollies by casually abusing people who they know nothing about. It's like a playground sometimes. To answer TND- I'm not sure those figures really do occur to the average fan of Rovers.Obviously I realised the club took far far less than the big four, but the size of the difference is quite staggering. I'm not sure have neccessarily proved your pointthough as in actuality a few hundred thousand pounds lost through lower ticket prices is not actually going to make us less competitive in the transfer market due to the enormous size of the TV deal. To answer EIT- while these are guesses, they are not unreasonable ones and while I don't doubt they are some large inaccuracies it does illustrate a huge divergent trend in terms of available revenue. I'm quite willing to read your own figures, and will look into it myself.

Wow. That puts it in perspective.

Intresting question here: How much proportionally is gate revenue of total takings now? And how much will it be after the new TV deal? It has to shrink consderably, paving the way for clubs to drop ticket prices. It would mean us dropping further behind the big clubs in terms of available revenue, but the magnitude of the lost financial ground has to propotionally reduce considerably. Hughes himself has said he expects prices to go down next season on a general Premiership level.

I wouldn't want that to happen really, big club are paying him and he should play for them if they want him too. Be professional and all that. As much as I rate Savage he did treat Brum poorly in that regard. Wanting Dunn to do that is sort of justfying what Ferguson did to us.

Seconded. We just have to play the waiting game. 1 million ia juat about justifiable, if he does pass the medical, 2 mlllion is ridiculous. Brum don't need him but do need some cash so will eventually break. Even Sullivan isn't daft enough to throw away money for the sake of a 2 year old dispute over Savage. Only thing that could screw us over is if another club in the NW decides to take a gamble.

Has anyones career fallen so utterly from grace as De Pedro- he used to be a Spanish international and world cup player for god's sake! He now plays in the Spanish second division...

Any news on this? After the quote from Brum I sort of assumed the move was almost a formality yet things have gone quiet. No real rush as the team is playing well and have nearly a full weeks rest before the FA cup game, yet I expected that it would be in everybody's (including Brum's) interest to get him signed up as quick as possible.

Whoops, of course I meant the first of january. And Haestad will be eligable to play for Wigan too I think.

Dunn is match fit now and could theoretically feature on the second of january against Wigan if he is signed.

To be fair he is a good passer and finisher (I suppose might come under vision) too which are not attributes you have listed there. But apart from that your about right I suppose. If a championship team do get him then they will have a fine asset in their league, his time at Stoke showed that he could not only cut it there but also be one of the better players. Hey ho. Also his championship pedigree does suggest we could look for upwards of a million for him and I would be suprised if they aren't at least three or four clubs interested in taking him off us.

David Dunn's old girldfriend and, i think, they were engaged for a while. Interesting to see that the rumour that Dunn has been fit but Brum are not playing him is true! I have to eat some humble pie. Apologies to whomever I lambasted for such a situation being ridiculous! It looks already sorted tbh, but the 2 million fee being bandied about has to be way out. I simply can't see how it could be more than a million.

Just trying to avoid turning a thread about the Ewood gate into a long ardous attritition of political argument which 90% of the board will find deathly dull. You could start a thread in ICBINF.

I'm not a cynic myself either, far from it, I always believe it is neccessary to approach all the situations and problems in your life in a positive manner. But on the messageboard it is hard to seperate fact from fiction as there is little accountability so I try to shy away from making decisions (as utterly inconcequential as they are beyond my own opinion) upon that basis. Anyhow I think your one of the best posters on the board here anyway. A bit of measure and sanity in the malestrom of self righteousness and provacativity that seems to be the order of the day from time to time.

Come on the guy has only had 2 posts, he could be Sammy Winward's dad! The best arbitrator of lifestyle decsions at the moment is Hughes and his scouts. I'm all for accepting arguments about his performance on the pitch and his massive injury problems but I don't think the fact a poster has said, without proof, Dunn has been pissing it up in blackburn 3 nights in a week is really evidence suitable for appraisal.

Very true. Liverpool are not going to hold anything against him at all if he plays well. From both their perspectives it will bode much better if he puts in an outstanding performance. Respect from his future teamates, assurance to the manager he has got quality, professionalism and fight. If he goes out and plays badly it will only leave Benitez and the Anfield locker room asking questions.

That quote is hard to contextualise. couldn't he mean there are not many available players rather than available money?