Every manager makes a few dud signings though. Fergie brought djemba djemba and Bebe to United, Arsene Wenger thought that Francis Jeffers was a premier league great in the making. At least TM has brought some truly great players to us, many coaches don’t even manage to bring decent players to a club. I see where you’re coming from with the small club mentality. I guess we differ greatly on this point. I’m happy for us to improve on last season, playoffs would be great but for me as long as we’re closer to the top than last year then I think TM is continuing to succeed and should be allowed more time. I’d love for us to push into the playoffs even if I think promotion is a step too far with this squad and the injuries we’ve suffered from. I agree that if we don’t make it then some players might want to leave but we’ll survive and hopefully use the funds to strengthen the squad and try again next time. I think we both want our club to be successful but you’re less patient (or more ambitious) than I am!

We’ve gone with your suggestion, pub crawl starts at 12 ? Hoping that we get a win this weekend to set us up for more the following Saturday. I can’t wait, I’ve got a good feeling about this game ?⚪️

I think we have a more balanced squad since then, although I take your point that bowyer achieved a very respectable final league position. Nevertheless, we have been relegated since bowyer was at the helm so you can’t deny that TM has clearly improved the squad, the ethos of the club, and the league position. I’d also like to suggest that the youth prospects making a name for themselves owe a lot to being blooded and kept in the squad by TM, so arguably we are progressing in development terms as well.

New series is out now. Available for download in a legally dubious way or it is also being shown on sky Atlantic a few weeks behind. Some great jokes in this season which I’ll not spoil for you! Curb is one of the best shows on TV, I hope you enjoy it @allroverasia.

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It’s fairly obvious that loan signings are used to plug a gap until we are able to identify a permanent signing that is within our price range. That’s a policy that all clubs use, from the bottom of the league to the top. I don’t see what is so confusing about that. Given that we have no chance of signing a player with the pedigree of Tosin I’m glad that the transfer team have secured him on loan. For me, we would be in a much poorer position without Tosin. When he plays we keep possession, look composed at the back and can play up the field without aimlessly hoofing it. We should do everything in our power to get him on loan for another season. There’s no shame that and I don’t think it’s short term thinking to sign a top quality player on loan when we couldn’t ever afford the transfer fee to have him here permanently.

Bellamy definitely worked out here but I think we got lucky with him, maybe down to having Hughes as the boss, someone that Bellamy probably had a lot of respect for as a Welsh great. I’d rather we didn’t sign players with questionable attitudes and I support TM when he takes personality into consideration before making a signing. For every Bellamy that works out there is a Leon Best who becomes an expensive mistake. I’m sure we’re all aware of workplaces where one or two bad apples can poison the atmosphere. I’d imagine that football clubs are no different in this regard and with everything stake there is no sense in jeopardising what seems to be a united dressing room.

Well said. Onwards and upwards!

I’m actually wondering whether you and bbrovers are the same person? Mods is there any way to check?

Ok if bigdogg can’t change the question, perhaps I can ask a fresh one? @Amo can you name a “cheap, low risk signing who can contribute” that we should go for? This topic has become a load of nonsense. I saw 10 pages of unread posts but the vast majority is taken up with willy waving and attention seeking from a pretend ITK who demands respect, and a circular argument about whether TM is using transfer funds effectively ? Maybe we can end the circular argument now @Amo, give us the benefit of your transfer knowledge now and blow Tony Mowbray out of the water for once and for all.

I'm a huge fan of Tosin and I think our whole team plays better with his calm and unhurried style at the back, but tonight he has been pretty bad and his wayward passing could have let them in at least once..

Yes, really.

Uncle Jack Kenny Dalglish Colin Hendry Tugay Tony Parkes Hendry hasn't had an exemplary personal life but he was immense for us, a legendary old-fashioned centre back who still has a lot of affection for the club. Jack Walker and Dalglish need no justification for being on the list and what they both achieved will probably never be repeated. Tugay is the most talented player I've seen play for us and his status as a folk hero to us means he has to be on the legends list. Tony Parkes has always been there for us, saving us whenever called upon. Great idea for a topic, it has been very informative to me as I didn't know that Tony Parkes also played for us.

CPC 464 was my first experience of computing/gaming and I have so many fond memories of that primitive green screen. Although we eventually got a colour monitor which completely blew my mind at the time, I’ll still have fonder memories of the green screen. The experience of loading the tape, waiting 20 minutes for it to load, listening to the weird loading noises, the game crashing and having to be reloaded... typing in 10 PRINT “Daniel smells” 20 GOTO 10 Some of the games were incredible. Rock star ate my hamster, a music management sim, was hilarious to my 7 year old self. Robocop had great graphics, spy Hunter was just like the arcade. Aliens was freaky and scary. Head over heels had cool isometric graphics, but Sorcery was my favourite game. It was like an early platform game where you had to fly from screen to screen rescuing wizards. Two other things stand out when I remember the 464. Games never looked anywhere near as good as the cover artwork for the tapes, and my brother used to put 10p pieces through the air vents on the monitor whenever a game crashed because he thought it was an arcade machine. Thanks for bringing it all back guys.

My last post on this as we’ve certainly gone off topic. I understand that people get upset or lose control of their emotions but it makes me angry when this kind of language is used with regard to a guy who has only ever tried his best for us (I didn’t have the same problem with choice language for Kean ?).

Liverpool are one of the biggest names in world football, their scouting network is world class, and from top to bottom they have connections with the elite of the footballing world. We are Blackburn Rovers and we play in English football’s second tier. Perhaps that gives you a clue as to why we gamble and overspend on British players rather than get world class youngsters from European clubs.

Yeah we bought a large number of young Portuguese players in not so long ago, how did that work out again? Every transfer is a risk, I agree that Brereton has been a massive flop, and Gallagher hasn’t been very impressive, but it’s disingenuous to suggest that we could’ve done much better by throwing the money at several other players.

TM has been winning a fair amount of games imo. We’re mid table in the championship and within touching distance of the playoffs in our second season after promotion from league one. That’s why I think the criticism is OTT. Regardless of performances, the atmosphere in this board has really soured and it’s become a bit of an effort to trawl through all the relentless, depressing criticism to get to any real news. Can you honestly not remember any offensive or personal language being used about Mowbray? I could quickly find examples of him being called a miserable sod, a fucking idiot, a dinosaur, a clueless twat, if you like. But I don’t think there would be much point as I’m sure you’re aware of all that really. There’s nothing wrong with fans venting and I’m sure we’ve all lost the plot with different managers over the years, good and bad. However there is a bit of a echo chamber in here at times and I think it creates a bad atmosphere and encourages some posters to outdo each other in OTT criticism and relentless negativity about every aspect of the club. That’s why I think Chaddy was right to make reference to OTT negativity and why I agreed with your suggestion that you must have become desensitised to the atmosphere here.

I think you must have become de-sensitised K-Hod. This board has become a very negative and depressing place to get Rovers news or keep up with matches. Every comment from Mowbray is pounced on and analysed for ways to discredit him and make it look like he is lying, cowardly or foolish. Personal and offensive insults are now common words in use to describe him and false narratives are pushed at every opportunity. I accept that a majority of fans on this site are not happy with how things are going but there's an over-reaction on here every single day! Tbh it's very difficult to listen to all the time and I am surprised that you haven't noticed it.

We can’t string two passes together

We need to find a different way to get forward cos nyambe is having no luck out there at all. Evans and Travis in the middle aren’t capable of creating much either and without tosin we struggle to pass it out from the back. Not looking good so far.... no shots yet for us and all the possession is for Wigan ?

We’re struggling out there, can’t get a grip on this game and when we go forward we’re cut open with quick pressing and accurate passing. Their final ball has so far thankfully been lacking and Walton and lenihan have managed to keep us clear so far. Walton very well out of the box for a clearance, he’s impressed me recently.

By amber is getting nothing down the right. Downing however has been excellent so far. I’m nervous watching this, Wigan look dangerous but lenihan has been immense so far

Thanks DE. I’ve used mame before on a PC to run neo geo games (mainly metal slug ❤️) but it was years ago and I’m sure I’ll need some sort of guide to get this up and running!