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Hummel, Macron, Kappa, Under Armour would all be very nice. They put effort into each kit. Umbro, Nike, Adidas, Puma - no thanks.

Sharpe on the biggest u turn of recent times. Having yesterday nailed his colours to the deal being virtually done in less than 24 hours seemingly West Brom are now in the driving seat. He mentions that personal terms may have been a stumbling block. That is strange because you would hope that Rovers would have worked out what he was after and whether we could pay it before making the bid and letting news of it out in the paper.

we need two. My understanding was that it was Kipre and someone else, not someone else as a backup if Kipre didn't happen

Me too. But I'll award credit when it actually happens and people are in the building, not when we are linked with people or try to sign them unsuccessfully.

We take a long time to get business done. Just look how long Tosin took last summer. You have to act quickly or risk missing out when others come in.

How Nixon works. He knows that we are well along with Kipre. He wants a slice of the action so goes on twitter acting like he knows his stuff. Dangles stuff for the fans over Thursday and Friday. By Friday night I guarantee that he will be saying 'update on Sunday' or 'bit in the paper on that one'. This will get people clicking onto the Sun website or buying the paper to read his drivel. It will be extremely frustrating if we don't get it over the line but seemingly this wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened.

You'll note my point earlier, that in the last 6 weeks through Tosin, Walton, Downing and Graham going the club will have shed £500,000 from the payroll which comfortably covers Kaminski and his fee. Let's see in the others happen and who goes out the other way to enable it. We need 8 first team ready defenders IMO. If Mulgrew is frozen out and Williams being sold then we need minimum 3 to come in, realistically on permanent deals to avoid another mad dash next summer. Kipre would be a good start yet as expected the tubby Scotsman is pouring cold water on it

Our choice not to sell tickets. Nobody has forced us not to. Bamber Bridge can sell them so why can't we? The sponsor news whilst unfortunate in this climate was always a possibility with their termination clause and will have happened months ago. So a lot of time to secure something else. Yes we have lost income. So has every other club in the world.

Mowbray says a lot of things that aren't true. The fact is that it seems very likely Williams will be out the door before the new signings are in. Call it coincidence if you like. To me it shows that yet more funds need to be freed up to have a chance to get others in. Our wage bill is already a lot less than last season so the explanation seems to be either they are reducing costs or need the lump sum transfer fee to pay for someone. As above wage savings for August alone by releasing a mass of players ought to have raised the cash needed for the keeper.

Quite alarming to me that bringing in essential defenders appears to be contingent upon getting shut of one of the three experienced players we have left who can play at CB. I sure hope Mowbray knows what he is doing here because it could easily go very badly wrong. Also quite disturbing that having slashed almost £100,000 a week off the wage bill since July and added only the keeper who won't be on more than £10,000 at most there isnt the scope in the budget to bring in reasonable signings without further outgoings. A quick calculation for August - if we've saved £400,000 on wages by offloading Walton, Tosin, Smallwood, Downing, Graham and Samuel then we can see where the money has appeared to get the goalkeeper.

Stockholm syndrome

I thought Stanley had said that the first 770 purchasers would get priority. Probably as clear as they can be with something like this. There will inevitably be people not happy either because they can't go to the earlier games or can't sit in their usual seat etc. Clubs have to do the best they can with what they have and Stanley's approach seems to be sensible. So it encourages people to get them asap or risk missing out. These issues are not a reason to simply do and sell nothing like Rovers have opted to do. This isn't a problem for us as we have the luxury of a 30,000 modern stadium and at best about 8000 season ticket holders. Knock off the staff and player complimentaries and just allow entry to paying season ticket holders and that number drops significantly. Knock off those who won't renew for various reasons and I'd be surprised if we could sell more than 6000. The discussion as to whether we blame covid 19 for that or inept management of the club is for another day.

Not a chance that I'll be paying £10 per game to watch on I Follow. Not when foreign based people were getting gsmes for £5 last season. I feel that I am still in credit from last season. If they don't want my money for my season ticket then fine, but it isnt going on I Follow.

I dont think Williams to Swansea is that odd at all. He's a good age, experienced at this level, played for Ireland and I suspect Mowbray would drive him to Swansea if it meant getting his wages off the books. He's not great by any stretch but reasonable cover for defence and won't cost much. It seems clear to me that him and Mulgrew are the make weights to enable a couple of defenders to come in. Its also obvious that something has been amiss with him since January with his mysterious injury.

No I haven't and to be honest I'm fed up of listening to Mowbray. I can't take him seriously.

But selling it without a sponsor will likely make it more difficult to secure a sponsor or reduce what they are willing to pay.

Good news and a relief to get this deal done. Should be getting another 2-3 first XI players in quickly now to address the defence. Not sure how him going down to Brockhall having his photos taken fits with 2 weeks of isolation and quarantine.

When charged with overspending Derby immediately disputed it, employed a leading barrister in Nick de Marco QC and challenged it all the way. Having succeeded in that challenge they are now considering pursuing damages and compensation for lost income and sponsorship against the League. Can you imagine Waggott and Rovers standing up and fighting like that? I doubt we'd ever challenge anything, instead just accepting whatever gets decided with a shrug of the shoulders.

It amazes me that anyone is remotely concerned about these rules anymore. In this climate they cannot be enforced. Even those clubs who have broken the rules previously haven't been punished. Birmingham got a meaningless points deduction, Derby got off Scott free and Wednesday are being punished for fiddling on their accounts, not overspending. The attitude seems to be that it is fine for Derby to break the rules and spend more than everyone else using every trick in the book but yet we are meant to be well behaved and worry about overspending whilst we've a fraction of Derby's overheads. All suits Venkys though.

It all hinges on who comes in. Like I say other than Downing I'm not too bothered about releasing those we have BUT they need replacing and haven't been YET. If they aren't replaced with at least 4 incomings of decent quality I think we will be weakened.

That's partly through our choice. We could have sold 5000+ season tickets like Bolton have done which would have covered a large portion of any lost income. We've decided not to so no sympathy there. Edit - sorry just seen @Stuartcovered this above.

Didn't want to renew, or couldn't renew? I think in the case of Downing it is the latter. I also genuinely believe that if he had scope to do so Mowbray would have given Samuel new terms. But given the financial circumstances imposed from upstairs he has had to let them go and doesn't expect to be in a position to get Downing back.

Lenihan, Nyambe, Travis, Buckley, Rankin Costello, probably Wharton - all academy products, all likely to be used with regularity this season. So no, I wouldn't say closing the academy is the right thing to do. By the same token you don't just get shut of everyone else and throw in academy products across the pitch because that will only end one way. I don't know what is going on behind the scenes. I do know that as of 26th August just over 2 weeks before our first league game we haven't yet signed a player and have let 7 go. Unless that changes significantly and quickly we will be in a weaker position than we were last season.

I'm struggling with the logic that letting 7 senior players leave and to date signing 0 cannot impact on our ability to perform. I wholeheartedly agree that of those released the majority were not good enough for anything more than a bottom half season but the fact remains that these were senior experienced pros who were in the squad as options for use. This probably applies more to the likes of Graham and Downing than Hart and Smallwood. But the point remains - if we are away from home at a hostile ground and need a goal or need to defend a 1-0 lead I would have absolute faith in Graham coming off the bench to do his thing or likewise Downing using his experience to guide us through than the alternative which is currently making do with what we have. The alternative being chucking one of the young lads on. Are they really going to be able to do what Graham does on a rough night at Millwall or Barnsley? The problem with your plan for the defence is we will have to get shut of those players before being allowed to sign the replacements. There is unlikely to be much interest. Once we are rid we are upon the new season under immense pressure to quickly sign people having offloaded yet more. I expect two players for every position. Therefore 2 people who can play LB, RB and 4 who can play CB. Lose Mulgrew or Williams or both and whilst we might not be bothered the fact remains they need replacing and quickly. Including Wharton we would still then need 2 x CB, 1x LB, 1 x GK and ideally 1x RB I'm not expecting us to go out and blow teams over with offers. Clever clubs don't need to - they identify bargains and get them quickly before others. But I would have expected a lot more progress than we've had. One incoming not yet confirmed and not available for a fortnight. We need a lot more and i am worried about getting the time we have, our manager's track record and what I am hearing to be totally honest.

Karanka has only been in the job a couple of weeks and they've already signed Jon Toral and George Friend this week.