JHRover

Club sec gets the bullet because they've used him as the fall guy to blame for what happened in January. After that his position was untenable. Rather that than admit the truth that the owners wouldn't spend and are actually the source of most of our problems, rather than experienced qualified staff suddenly forgetting how to do their jobs.

Heard that before, even up until 11pm deadline day, then [insert name here] cocks up and forgets to press send submit whatever Oldest trick in the Venky playbook to head into a summer telling people there's money to spend and impressive names linked. Just as season tickets are about to be released too. Taking us for fools.

So our transfer failings all Broughton's fault (or was it Silvester, I'm getting mixed up as I thought it was his fault) but either way definitely absolutely never anything at all to do with Venkys, Sheikh or Waggott, the 3 highest positioned entities at the club?

The biggest question is when and how do we get these repulsive owners and their stooges out of Blackburn Rovers. Because until or unless they do this club will continue to wither and decay. Nothing else really matters, of course some spending in the interim might help stave off League One for a few more years, as might some shrewd signings and management, but they'll find a way, eventually, to undermine that through further budget cuts and appalling decision making. The next question is if they are appointing a new D of F to replace Broughton is there any point? If Broughton is leaving because there's no money and his job was made impossible then what's the point in getting a new one? If we're getting rid of Broughton because he wasn't up to the job, too inexperienced or not well connected enough then why are we apparently considering appointing a total rookie to the role instead?

Presumably now then the new Director of Football (Rudy or someone else) will have to come in, rapidly assess the situation and then make decisions. This will start with manager and coaching staff, and I can only assume the Director of Football will have the capability to remove Eustace and appoint his 'own man' as manager if he considers that appropriate in pursuit of our 'strategy'. If not then there really is no point in appointing one, because he has to be in control of footballing decisions and if he's basically told he's working with what he has then he ain't a Director of Football.

Yes, and we heard it with rumours recently of Tugay coming in for some sort of 'ambassador role' Waggott ain't totally daft. He knows an easy and relatively cheap way to head off trouble is to install a popular ex-player in a blaze of publicity, wheel him out for the Telegraph and Forums and half the job is done. It was easy when Mowbray was here because he could regale people with his 'I'm a working class Boro lad brought up in the 70s' stories over tea and biscuits but without Mowbray there it's harder. Basically a human shield to keep him out of the firing line. He knows the anger in the stands is building and on more than one occasion he was the target of chants. You're probably right. Life here appears to be one long story of various factions grabbing power and then being undermined. We've been through it so many times. Embark on something, look to make progress and then rip it all up and start again at square one "We can't affect what's happened before we've just got to move on to the future" will be Eustace's line when the 'new regime' is unveiled Well I'm not forgiving or forgetting.

Only at a circus like Rovers. Get shut of a Director of Football who has been in the job for 1 full summer, who has been undermined from the word go by cowboy owners, snakes and who knows what else (rogue secretary's one fanciful suggestion). A director of football who was in situ when we appointed JDT (best season in over a decade) and when we signed Szmodics (about to cash in Big time on) and when we 'created a pathway' for Adam Wharton to cash in on. Seemingly considered not up to it due to a lack of experience. To potentially be replaced by a former player with zero experience of any level other than as a player. We all know the crux of this. Money. They've derailed any chance of success under one group of people so it's on to the next lot Cheap, cheerful, inexperienced, local. That's the Rovers way. Won't get the club anywhere but at least they can bring Rudy along to the Fans Forum and people will be happy. A sick joke of a club but only to be expected with the suspect individuals running it.

I've been wondering that for a while given his strange proximity to the club despite not occupying any official position. Cheap and with no experience, but the added bonus of being an ex player which they will want to exploit with the fanbase.

The never ending Venky rebuild continues. Those down the chain moved out or forced out because they can't work for the scum. The scum and their henchmen keep on going. No end in sight for them. I just hope nobody is fooled by this. Its a typical Venky / Waggott stunt to convince people the problem has been addressed. Con.

I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason for the delay. Like some imaginative new pricing structure that has been painstakingly planned and developed and is just getting the final touches, or waiting to crack on with a massive new marketing and publicity campaign in a bid to reach new audiences.

Either way, our only hope is a Luton relegation to keep us off bottom place in the league for home attendances next season. Doesn't that tell a story.

The senior management structure of the club, according to the website, consists of six people: Steve Waggott, Gandhi Babu, Sreenivasa Rao, Robert Coar, Suhail Sheikh and Matt Wright. Senior management, by its very definition, takes ultimate responsibility for the performance of the club. If you are the head of an organisation and people beneath you fail to the extent that it costs the organisation money, opportunity, potential promotion, not to mention immense reputational damage, then the head takes responsibility. So I would expect to see greater consequences than this yes. As I said, if our 'senior management' all walked together into the Blues Bar or Fox and Hounds on matchday with the exception of Waggott and perhaps some older end recognising Coar I don't think any Rovers fan would recognise or have the slightest clue who the other 4 are, wouldn't know their names or know what job they do at the club. I don't think a single photograph can be found online of these people, Sheikh has been photographed a few times usually by accident sitting next to Waggott. I'm not comfortable with that. I'd like to know who does what at the top of the organisation that clearly has had major operational shortcomings over the last few years. Yes I knew who Martin Goodman was and would probably recognise him today. He was based at Ewood Park, attended Club events, transparent, communicated, attended matches and had a clearly defined role as our Financial Director. Same with John Williams and Tom Finn. This lot are a different matter altogether.

I want the real culprits holding to account. Owners and senior management. Those that remain in place for years on end running things from the shadows and are the ultimate cause of our situation. I don't believe our transfer problems are of Silvester's making and they don't deserve the benefit of doubt on that. Unfortunately little stunts like this and changing manager convince some people the problem is sorted and that we can move on to the future. Firing off Silvester sure as hell will be a lot cheaper than signing McGuire and paying his wages for 6 months.

If it happened 3x in a year due to real 'mistakes' costing us playoffs, promotion and our manager I'd expect a bit more by way of consequence than the secretary leaving many months later and being replaced with an administrator, which is why I referenced senior management. When do any of them take responsibility? Ever? Or just pin it on someone lower down the chain and move on? I reckon all but Waggott and maybe Coar of our 'senior management' could walk into Blues Bar at 2:30pm matchday and not one person in there would know who they were. Nobody knows who they are, what they do, what they look like. Do you think that is acceptable?

More pointless shuffling. Next will be Broughton out. Then they can all take the blame for what has happened. Meanwhile Venkys remain. Steve Waggott, Gandhi Babu, Sreenivasa Rao, Robert Coar, Suhail Sheik and Matt Wright all named on the club website as 'Senior management'. Only one is ever visible or provides any degree of communication, and that is grossly inadequate. Who are these people, what are they doing and when do they take any responsibility for the state of this club?

I keep hearing about the need to consult with fans. I don't think this is necessary and would only serve to muddy the waters. Price cuts across the board is the ONLY way of halting or reversing decline in sales. It isn't complicated, and doesn't need some lengthy discussion. It needs price cuts and the only question should be how much. I don't think the new Sky deal will immediately put loads of people off buying, they are more likely to balance price with product (largely dross) served up this season and ask if they can be arsed with it all over again. But medium to long term this Sky deal and fixture changes WILL shave even more off attendances. Once people realise the realities on a week-by-week basis and experience first hand the number of inconvenient kick off times, one by one they will come to the conclusion it isn't worth it when they can watch from home instead. Lets face it. We don't have any issues with supply, so people know if they change their mind later they WILL get a ticket, maybe not in their favourite seats but somewhere decent in the ground. Some clubs can at least continue to use that as an incentive and the risk that tickets won't be available at a later date. Fully agree that for all the incompetence and ineptitude around Waggott certainly has his eye on the ball when it comes to making sure his targets are hit. He will know how fed up people are and will know this season has been a disgrace from the owners down. He will know there will be a sizeable drop off coming regardless of price with so many people just totally at the end of their tether with it. So he will probably add some more on to prices to offset that loss. Name of the game here isn't to grow, increase, improve. It is to screw those going for as much as possible to hit his targets and to hell with the consequences.

Indeed. If the owners were interested or determined to get us promoted they would have been touching down (metaphorically or literally) at Ewood in December / January in the last 2 years and providing resources needed to try and get us over the line. No guarantees of success of course but you'd be desperate to do whatever you possibly could to keep it going and get to the holy land. Top 2 was there for hitting, top 6 as a minimum. What we saw wasn't that, but rather a heavily restricted and maxed-out budget operation at Ewood bringing in a few loans of largely inadequate quality but pretty much all they could do with the resources available. You certainly don't sit around wailing about FFP or potential future problems. You act, hope it works, and if it doesn't you deal with it later by selling someone and juggling things around. They just haven't the interest. I very much doubt they even know we were in a promotion push, it makes no difference to them, I doubt they will yet know we have nearly been relegated (again) or care. I think Waggott and Pasha are instructed to not bother them more than once per year or if not instructed to do so then they certainly aren't going to go out of their way to do it. The 'owners statements' we've had recently little more than Waggott and Pasha putting a few bits down which they are permitted to do. Mowbray, JDT, the players and fans deserved better. The owners have, through their negligence and disinterest, sunk promotion hopes.

Undoubtedly things have shifted with regards to their intentions from what they were in 2010 to what they are today. I too don't subscribe to the active sabotage theory, but the fact that they have had not one but two promotion opportunities unexpectedly drop into their lap in the last couple of years and done absolutely nothing to try to take advantage of that, tells me that we are well and truly at the back of their minds. People may want to continue to delude themselves that these people have any degree of interest, pride, care, ambition for this club but I think basically we are a loss making entity that they have zero interest in, and essentially their involvement goes as far as sanctioning an annual budget in the summer and leaving the jokers in the boardroom to do what they want/can with that amount. Deliberate or not it will only lead to one thing. There's no place in any industry, professional sport especially, for people who aren't interested or committed. Signing off another round of share issue every few months to cover the debt isn't commitment for the purposes of driving an organisation forward, it's just doing the necessary to keep the lights on and bailiffs away. It isn't good enough.

Sounds like win, win, win, win for Waggott this summer Get shut of Broughton Fans 'blame' him for the January debacles and struggles this season. Waggott seen to be taking action to correct things. Broughton's wage off the books. Back to the old routine of signing players linked to certain agencies and individuals. Waggott gets the credit in India for £30 odd million coming in from AW and Szmodics, both a large part due to the work of JDT and nothing to do with Waggott or the shadow man. Another few years on the gravy train whilst people delude themselves lessons learned or reinvestment coming. Wake up folks, this is typical Venky manoeuvring to make it appear things are happening, they won't and the same old faces remain behind it all. Only at Rovers would we employ a DOF structure, spend 2 years at it, rake in £40 million through sales then get rid and start again to save on costs.

'We've done all we can' Cardiff just through the 10,000 sold barrier Starting at £309 adults so just the £90 less than here for a better product. Wonder if we will hear news this side of the Euros. No rush, what's the urgency, not as if we need money.

Why can't we then?

Apparently. Or they'll get promoted and avoid issues. Or sell someone to achieve compliance. But until then they'll spend and build towards promotion, which I'm told we cannot do.

Better to try and fail than not try at all. For every Birmingham there's a Brentford, Fulham, Brighton, Forest, Villa where tough yet thought out decisions landed the jackpot. We'll never find out one way or the other here, just gradually decay away in a state of confusion and excuse making

Rosenior had far better conditions and backing than JDT had in his first season and has delivered the same league position. Done reasonably well and realistically looking at the 6 above them in the table couldn't have expected much higher. Why it was even more important to get top 6 last season when competing with the likes of Luton, Coventry and Sunderland rather than Southampton, Leeds, West Brom. But had huge backing by Championship standards and missed out. For an ambitious owner rather than one on autopilot that isn't enough. All about getting to the PL asap, unless you are Venkys of course

Not much talk about FFP excuses at Hull. Just an ambitious new owner wanting them to get better and prepared to make ruthless decisions to get there and willing to bankroll it. See, it can happen. Only in the brains of a hopefully dwindling number of Rovers fans can it not.