Why is no one bashing Saudi Arabia, Kuwait (They got their help when they needed it) and UAE, 14 Million total. What income do they generate daily? All they can muster is a paltry 14million. Hell England spends more than that a day helping non British Citizens get one over on the taxpaying Citizens. Den, good response that. Just out of curiosity, Natural disasters aside how much do you individually donate to charities a year, local, church or otherwise. I estimate my yearly charitable contributions to be about $2500. Do you all give regularly or do you wait for the Global thing. See giving is a year round thing, I give regularly and I give diversely.

Here we go again, don't want to belittle this thread or drag it away from it's true meaning but some folks should just keep their mouths shut until they have facts. Check your histories all your Stars and Stripes Stompers and I think you will find the US at or near the top in donating to disaster relief funds all over the World. While I have been here America has sufferd Mountains Exploding, Earthquakes, Hurricanes, devastating floods, Huge Tornadoes have destroy whole towns. While loss of life has often been relatively small due to good preparation and some noteworthy Engineering and design property loss and hardship for folks following these disasters has been devastating. I don't recall and "releif funds" coming IN from all you such fine charitable concerned people for the residents of America. That's it for me I am tired of you bloody two faced bigots.

Bit sick isn't it Flopsy. A few posts in to one of the Worlds largest known natural disasters and you are gloating about possible destrution in North America. Sad mate quite sad. Read the post again me old mucker. I think you have taken it out of context. As for the Americans it's good to see them stung into action following criticism by the UN. I read it about 10 times and still don't get anything out of it, is it supposed to be funny? ALL JOY just what the (Please don't use that word again) is that supposed to mean.

Bit sick isn't it Flopsy. A few posts in to one of the Worlds largest known natural disasters and you are gloating about possible destrution in North America. Sad mate quite sad.

That's a similar headline to "Trouble in Middle East"; "Frenchman piddles in street", or "AESF chunters on". You could leave the planet for 6 months, come back and see that and think that nothing's changed! Heh Heh, nice one. Not laughing at Dunny, starting to feel a bit sorry for him. I am beginning to think more and more this Savage move will not happen. Brum seem to be standing firm and if we have any sense we won't go too far over the fair price for him. I can see the whole thing breaking down before the end of January. The only way I can see it will happen is by Savage slapping in a request before the end of the window.

Do you want me to come, you usually do alright with me when it comes to arguing. Tough game this one if we can earn a point I will be happy. That would be five out of nine, respectable and somewhat acceptable given the Xmas schedule. If Villa shape like they did against United we could get some joy with Brett on the flanks but I don't think they will. If we play with the effort we have shown of late a point is not out of reach.

Have we tapped him up? I have my doubts, we have seen many many instances of this type played out in the press before, it happens constantly. No one else complains of tapping up, nothing ever happens. If Rovers have then it is a stupid move, I do however think we are smarter than that. Likely sour grapes from Birmingham. I suspect the shipping of Bruce's son to Oldham slap bang in the middle of this thing has an underlying motive though.

So am I, I was dead set against this appointment but the turnaround in this team is nothing short of miraculous. I feel pride again. If he can do the job after being allowed to bring in a few players that he has done so far he will be a success. I have not yet ate my words about his appointment but I am currently chewing them.

And that my friend T4E is beautifully summed up, that is what it is about. Given we are likely to see some monies from the Beattie deal let's offer 1 Mill now and another Mill if we stay up. If Savage is what we need to stay in this league then as you say it is a wise investment regardless of how many years he plays for us. I can see why people don't like Robbie Savage but I must say he has the battling never say die sort of qualities I like to see in a player. As a footballer I do like him, as a whole packeage I am undecided.

Saw the Newcastle goals yesterday, absolutely Brad should have been bearing down on the runner, something like Sorensen against Utd, but where was he on the line in his bloody look ay me I'm a Subbuteo Goalie stance. Fundamentals, fundamentals. Is the keeper coach earning his pay, I think not.

Well put Shaddy, you saved me the bother.

Must agree with that, I said before it looks like Ferguson is too good for our team. Our forwards need to read Fergie better also. At the better teams he would be afforded just that little bit more time, we need to find a partner that can help protect him a bit so he can create. He's going to get better yet he's really only had a half a season to play and as I had heard one ex player comment yesterday, after a long layoff it takes 10-15 games to really regain your full fitness. I thought some of his passes against Newcastle were very good. For me Souness would have to match or better what we paid for him for us to even consider him. As far as Ferguson at Newcastle I think he would be a huge success, Butt to help him and Bellamy to run onto his passes, could be scary.

No, don't tell me this. It's not possible. have they gone yet!!, yeah we did not deserve to win but thats football!!! we battered cheskie for 60 mins andgot beat 4-0, as someone once said, 'ita a funny awld game' Forgive me for being stupid but... Huh? I notice several complaints about Brads keeping, not that I have been saying similar things for a while, but I will keep my mouth shut before I am again accused of knowing nowt.

No, don't tell me this. It's not possible.

Enjoy the game and enjoy the day John, let me know how Brad does

Talking to me Dad in Harwood he said it's snowing quite a bit, any chance the game may be off?

Oh dear, another Amoruso.. Or a Bobby Moore, or a Tony Adams, or a John Terry etc etc.

After being a Pro Souness man for so long and defending him most of the time I felt very much deserted by the way he left. I wish him no success at all. He left us in the lurch, he screwed up, came to realise it and off he went. I also have a very strong feeling that he somewhat engineered his own move, I really do. It is for these reasons I ask you all at Ewood to NOT boo Souness. Save the vocal chords for cheering on our lads so we may humiliate them. There is only one team in the World I would more like to give a pasting to than Newcastle right now, and I think you will all know who that might be. Let's have a rousing reception for our lads, give 'em brilliant support so our team can humble his. We are basically the same team he left behind so if we can beat them with our new found fitness and beat them well Mr Souness will have to begin to realise all his medals won't protect him forever. I would like 3-0 for Christmas Gally to get one and Andy Todd the other 2, those two score and it should really twist the knife.

Agree on both points. As I was watching the game I was really hoping he might replace bith the front two with Stead and Gally. We really were crying out for someone who could bring something a little different, and Stead and Gally can definately do that. Dickov is priceless for his work ethic but it seems he is easily figured out, opposing defenders just get right up on his arse, hold him, push him and kick him, knowing full well that nine times out of ten there will be no call. He should be creating space for others if he can ocuppy defenders so well but it just does not seem to working. Saturday, late in the game, called for a forward who with one move could out fox the Everton back line and the only two I know we have that can bring that fresh innovative type of play are the aforementioned young lads. Don't think Sparky had the gonads to risk the point going for all three.

I would have thought a sound 3-0 thrashing would do a better job. More so if we simply out hustle and out work them.

I think you are referring to the Ruud Van Nistleroy offside rule.

Oh No, double whammy.

Not complaining about the quality of what is coming in, just concerned about the quantity of what we will have.

If my wages were high enough even I could but up with a Boss I did not like.

Drab game, bad result. Everton are quite a cohesive unit, they will only need to score one to take all three points, can't see us scoring. It's on the Telly at 1:00pm Arizona time over here for anyone interested. I should be able to get out of the Xmas shopping for that one but I am not convinced I actually want to.