2-0 Slovakia atm Lehmann really is cack.

Gresko starting in Slovakia vs Germany. Lehmann in goal

Ive just worked out i could go and see 1fck (my hometown team) and it would cost me £2.50 on a student ticket. Thats to see players like Carsten Jancker, Ciccy Sforza and Mario Engelhardt, all of which would walk into our team.

Thanks for the cricket info lads, but i think ill keep away. It still doesnt sound interesting. And i don't fancy catching an 80 mph leather ball when its dry, never mind when its wet.

yeah it was pretty daft building a city below sea level. Daft SPAM's.

no, he his hilarious and a right character! You need characters on an interent forum like him. Hes not harming anyone.....well, not any rovers fans anyway.

A few things confuse me: Number of players on pitch/subsitiutions Colour of kit (white or multicoloured) Draws etc, and declaring. Can you not be beat if you declare? But the otther team can draw? Is there a set pitch size or do they just lay a rope down? Why dont they play in the rain? poofters aye? and the hardest one of all. When does the game actually finish? Ive never really paid attention to the 'boring game' till i got a freebie at Headingley. I saw it as less of a game and more of a shambolic excuse to get drunk on free beer. In fact i think, along with most of the ground, i spent more time in the concourse.

Not yet. However, from what i understand (its on the hush hush atm) my Uni (Leeds Met) will be running a course based on Rugby League, as part of their tie in with the Rhinos.

is this the offical one? I know when he carked it there was talk about an offical one...

Crickets too hard to understand, and not enough fun to watch.

I'm at Leeds Met - although my course is available at the University of Sheffield, I've not checked at anywhere else. I havent a clue about UCL, it strikes me as one of those unis for people that don't want to ever leave their folks home. I think you've lost the plot on the education issue, completely (as has most of the UK) Its not so much about the course (or the uni), rather more about how you apply yourself - ask the oriental kids that spend 24/7 in the library. Screw all these league tables and open days. When you send your kids off to Oxbridge with their silver dummy still stick in, remember that, or they will be back within 6 months with a daniella westbrook like chang habit and an overdraft you may need to cancel the golf club membership to pay off. One thing you are spot on about is the clothing issue mind. The only thing i will add is that your missing one piece of vital chav equipment - an England shirt. Anyone going to the world cup next year should also be advised of this - you WILL get a harder time from polizei wearing England colours.

I wasn't gonna reply to the first one cos it is going way 'off topic', but your being quite ignorant. HNDs can be upgraded to a degree by doing a third year (which i plan to do this year) which is supposedly harder than taking the full 3 year degree. I was, as i say, no angel in my youth and didnt get the full opportunity to take a-levels (i left home young), so got onto the HND through working in a good job in marketing for a mobile phone co. - none of this burger flipping crap (fyi thats done by the turks and chinese now, as im sure your high social status means you dine at only the finest venues). The funny thing is, out of the 140 odd people that started my course, the 40 or so of us who are going through to do the degree year are the ones who havn't been fed with a silver spoon - most of those pr**ks dropped out after maxing their third overdraft in 6 months. Now i agree, its a hardly a high honours degree in bio genetical engineering from Cambridge, but i can assure you that my university (which is what it is, since the pathetic education system in this country couldnt even copy a century old German model properly) is standing me in just as much stead for the future as friends at the lesser red bricks. Anyway, that is all. Get back to your baiting of the proletariat.

you can do two year courses at many Unis, i've just finished a two year HND.

I reckon it would only cost me a couple of quid more to go watch Bayern than Rovers, all things included.

Daddy? Im 23 ffs. But old enough to know that if you go round wearing rockports, aquascutum and Henry lloyd you will attract trouble, especially after a football match. Now i'm certainly no angel, hell i'm sticking up for your actions inside the ground here (i've seen your lot at away games before i think, you are certainly a lot more support to the team than your getting credit for - you could tell at the grimsby game the team were loving the 'easy' chants), but you seem to be asking for it a little bit, no?. Also, theres no need to start dressing like a cross between a hollyoaks reject and a battenburg cake either.

I know your type. Its a shame that you dress like you do, because it would make for a far more interesting debate if you didn't wear clothes that said 'hit me, i'm stupid'. However, i have said it before and i will say it again - If English football is to survive as a spectator sport, home ends like the BBE must be changed. If you don't want to sing, sit with drunks and hear humorous chants, sit in another part of the ground. Let all the unruly lot in the BBE on cheap tickets, give em booze and let them have as many flags, colours etc as they want, and stand up whilst doing it. Hell, some italian and german clubs have fans that won't even face the pitch for the whole game because they are leading the singing, and as far as i'm concerned it lifts the atmosphere of the whole stadium.

What a complete joke. We know who the prawn sandwich brigade are eh? It is'nt the fact that people are drunk, they are clearly going to do it anyway. And if all they did was wind the oppo supporters up slightly with a couple of songs, some of you are going WAY too far with your criticism.

If they don't buy the replica shirt, go to the games etc then imo they arent football fans. They are pub fans. And as long as the media is backing the big teams and England in the way they do then that is how the sport will progress. Our attendances arent smaller because there are more premiership games on tv, its because the only ones that are cared about are the ones the media hypes. Which don't include clubs like Rovers. Briefly, 10 years ago, it did. Two years ago there were around 800 people overflowing the student bar in my old halls to watch the games involving Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea against each other. If a Man Utd or Chelsea vs some other prem side game was on then there wouldn't be 80 in there. Youd ask the same people who'd been cheering on their team the week before where they were and they wouldnt even know what you were on about.Same last year in the bars of Headingley. These people arent suddenly going to go and watch Leeds Utd next week if every Sky satellite is destroyed by daleks - I doubt its any different the other side of the pennines.

I don't disagree, although i put the declining audiences down to the times of those games - esp the lunchtime kick off, and the continuing rises in price, rather than because they are on the box. I don't think anyone will stay away from Ewood purely to watch another team on TV, unless its a massive game - ie Liverpool in the CL final. As for people that have an interest in footie but don't follow a team, thats bullcrap - they don't have an interest in footie, they think they do because the tabloids tell them they are gay or unpatriotic if theres an England match on and they arent in their local 'fun pub' sipping Stella all night. Imo live football and televised football are two totally different things for the fans - unfortunately the PL and Government don't see this and try their hardest to merge the two pastimes into one, media friendly,consumerist, lame piece of crap. However i reckon attendances will soon pick up when they introduce executions at half time. Firing squad for bringing in your own drinks, Guillotine for daring to stand up and electric chair for anyone who tries to create an atmosphere.

just watching some recent games from germany. Kluivert looked a completely different player from the one we saw last season in the PL, he had an amazing work rate up front for Valencia against Hamburg. Anything to do with Soueys coaching methods perhaps? Dortmund losing 2-1 to Braunschweig in the DFB cup put a smile on my face too.

i think i better dl this osx x86 thing pretty quickly by the looks of things... cheers glenn.

He's dutch, it's probably about as wet as Lancs in the Netherlands. The only worry is that he will need window wipers.

I can't believe too much football on TV is a real reason why people stay away, Rovers must get about 10 hrs tv time a season Max, mainly on sky. Are people really staying away from games to watch Man Utd and Chelsea in the CL? I will watch a game if its on and i'm bored, but i can't actually say i would miss anything for it.

jeez, i've neveer seen anything like that in Paris. i must look like a right thug (or french). All the looky looky men everywhere, and people pretending they had no legs on the metro, but no real scammers.

Ive said it before and i'll say it again - I would rather spend my money on away games. Half the fun of football is the atmosphere. To make me buy a season ticket in the BBE i'm afraid the club would have to: 1. Bring back beer 2. Bring back terraces (or at least let you stand) 3. Ban under 16s from a specific area (or at least make no child tickets available in that area) and these things arent going to happen in England. The sport is now a 'family' affair, aimed at people like Drummer Boy and his three kids. The PL have realised people like me arent rich enough (drummer boy spends about my monthly income on one match) to bother with and have cast us off.