11 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Lets have a look back at this two years from now....

I'm no great supporter of Mowbray but it can (and likely is) going to get a lot worse.

So the captain of our ship has been at the helm for five years.  The ship is in collision course with the rocks but you can’t blame the captain. It’s not his fault he put together the wrong crew, set the wrong course and didn’t correct his course when the compass told him he was heading in the wrong direction.

No it’s the absentee owners fault who have trusted him and his fellow officers to get the job done with substantial funds.

Whats the answer don’t replace him because things could get worse. I will never look back with any fondness on the Mowbray years. He’s an out of touch, self preserving old dinosaur. Even the Forest fans recognised this eleven he tried to defend Hughton. 
PS Let’s see if he’s given a 2 wins in 17 run before he’s potted. We all know he won’t be because only at rovers is failure and mediocrity tolerated and only our fans would try and defend it as though it could be worse if we remove him

15 minutes ago, roversinmyblood said:

On a permanent for a fee? If so any idea how much, will it allow us to pay a small fee for Dale?

So Chapman who we have had here for 3 years is given a contract extension to prove himself. The sum total of the prove yourself period is 3 games in which he has played well. He is then sent on loan back to Shrewsbury. I hope we aren’t picking up any of his wages because that would be madness. Either keep him or don’t extend and let him go

It’s just one major league cock up. Totally financial mismanaged over the last few years. Mainly because Mowbray had been allowed to operate unregulated. Big contracts to older players he never used. Keeping players on because it was the right thing to do. Buying potential for the finished product price. 
So here we are players refusing to sign contract because they’ve seen what’s been handed out previously.

Bringing in younger players from premier clubs who in reality are not going to make an iota of difference to the outcome eexcept to the money going out.

it’s all really desperate stuff masked by a good start to the season. I would not however regardless of the outcome give Mowbray another single penny. We also need to bring someone in from Venkies world to secure those assets and get that responsibility away from waggott and Mowbray 

Does this mean chapman is on the way out. I’ve only briefly looked at this. He’s a right winger.

6 minutes ago, rigger said:

And what are your thoughts on the Rovers transfer dealings ?

My thoughts are we are struggling to get players to come here. As Sparks Rover said we are fucked and news travels. The Southampton lads not coming the Brighton lads limped home. It’s going to be a long hard season in rovers world. Let’s hope there are three worse than us.

1 minute ago, Sparks Rover said:

I think reading between the lines, we won't see him again.  He's been here, noticed we are fucked and gone home...just like the Southampton chap.

 

Mowbray has to go!!!

I wish I could go with them

2 minutes ago, rigger said:

The injury is so minor, he has to go back to his home club ?

Brighton have seen what happens to the injured here. If the kid gets into our treatment room he might never see the light of day again. Particularly  if he start hanging out with Ayala.

Why would you come here?

I can’t think of a single reason that a young footballer career wise would make this his choice. If it was your son would you say go to Rovers get yourself a football education under Mowbray. Even our own players won’t sign. Armstrong was smart he turned last season into his own personal show And got out. Don’t pass , don’t play people in, don’t play for the team and it’s worked. 

Nyambe and Rothwell are gone bad wages comparatively and have not progressed add Raya to that. He hands out big money to players like Ayla downing Evans mulgrew etc mainly to do his job for him. Worse signs Pears on more than Nyambe??...

We as supporters appear to have set a bench mark that you are ok if you are not worse than Kean. I’ll give you three including Kean that all fall inside the same area. They talk big and deliver little, they discuss themselves as football philosophers and in two of the cases have lived off one success. Coyle , Kean and Mowbray. Character wise they may be different but result wise they are the same. 

I prefer Kean to Mowbray for one simple reason because one of them is still here.

I would like a new bench mark are they better than Hughes or  Souness same small club same financial restrictions same fighting the big boys. He will take us down it’s a given. 

7 minutes ago, Lucimo said:

In terms of potential fee I can't see this take it or leave it offer being more than £12m if they only offered £8m last time. 

Your probably right but with 40% going to Newcastle,agents fees ,loyalty bonuses and probably other associated costs is the sale financially worth it. May as well keep him and let him contribute to maintaining championship status.

2 minutes ago, Boroblue said:

I’m with walk on for me

I can’t write a sentence this morning. I’m with you walk on today

9 minutes ago, rigger said:

Today I am a walk-on for the first time in a while.

I’m with walk on for me

Well that’s a bolt out of the blue. To use a line from Chevy Chase, I couldnt be more surprised if I Woke up with my head stitched to the carpet

13 hours ago, roverandout said:

22 semi finals?

Sorry I couldn’t be bothered looking it up and relied on memory which at my age is a dangerous game 18 facup semi finals

32 minutes ago, alcd said:

What age would that be - 80+? Blackburn has been a small town club since the mid-60s when the maximum wage was abolished. The clubs mentionned above have consistently finished either around or above Rovers in the past 40 years except for the Jack Walker- funded period. The financial realities of better-supported clubs dominating during the period up to 1992 have returned so Rovers are now just a club in the lower regions of the second tier at best.

Fact check - Rovers played both CP and Norwich in Div 2 in the 3 seasons ending 1968/69, Watford were Div 1 runners-up in 1983 and Southampton in Div 2 from 1975 onwards.

 

I understand what Jim’s saying.

watford no trophies win

crystal Palace no trophies won

norwich 2 league cups

southamPaton 1 trophy

blackburn 3 champions of england

6 Fa cups

1 league cup

22 fa cup semi finals

i can see how you get that we are the same. I already look up to the above 4 joint total of three trophies.

I thought Garrett looked pretty assured yesterday. If he is the young blond lad who came on in center midfield. Didnt seem hurried,aware of what was around him, broke up play and did the simple things well. 
 

I have no foundation for this but I believe the sale of the training ground was Mowbrays preferred solution to cost cutting when his promotion push went tits up . I believe Venkies actually pulled the plug on that. He wanted to sell the training ground to prevent cost cutting option B. That’s is the loss of 11 senior players and their wages without any replacements. The sale of Armstrong and Rothwell with no money released. 

Mowbray as squandered money and opportunity on what appears to be his own personal football philosophy vanity trip. He has a job for the boys mentality mainly because he wants the senior professionals to do his job for him. 

I went yesterday and even though it was a friendly we are on a collision course with relegation. While I love Rovers I can’t deny I’m going to take a lot of pleasure from watching the arrogant boro boy squirm. He’s got exactly what he deserves and I feel no sympathy. This time he’s just got kids no old guys in the dressing room to pull him out unless you count the Spanish sick note.

Hopefully gone by Christmas.

The supporters sang for Mowbray to give them a wave a couple of time but as far has I could see he didn’t respond. The Bolton manager did immediately to the Bolton fans.

I guess disconnection is something you have to accept when your in the presence of a genius 

The main problem is that Mowbray over complicates the game. The younger players today did not appear to know what was expected of them and where placed in an unfamiliar system. Result they look much worse than they are. I heard him talking about counter acting the Leeds pivot on Thursday but these are young players let them concentrate on playing our style not always adapting and changing.

The first half was appalling full of misplaced passes and personal errors. It likes like they’d just meet in the car park. The game in my opinion was rescued by Rothwell taking responsibility and putting Bolton on the back foot.

Mowbray just needs to focus on our plan stop believing he is a football genius and that way he’ll get the best out of what we’ve got.

Never happen by the way 

1. Yes

2. No the crowd will force him out. He can’t stand criticism and we know the death spiral run of defeats will happen

3. Kaminski . Will be a busy chap this season

4. 17th

5. West Brom

33 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Would you give Mowbray any more money to spend?

In short no

He would usually be bemoaning his lack of players and experience. The need for recruitment. Droning on about football philosophy and how the players need to buy into it. No journey stuff. Maybe Covid has taken his voice. Obviously this is a prelude to a long repetitive LT article today

I’m I missing some interviews or is Mowbray very quiet at the moment.