Australia certainly didn't accept the ball was dead you only had to look at their instant reaction to see that this was something they had spotted Bairstow doing and had planned to punish. The umpires evidently didn't class it as dead and I'm not sure what the crowd have to do with anything. I mean how many times do you hear a crowd cheer a bump ball as a wicket. As for Carey he threw the ball straight away before Bairstow had even left his crease. That's incorrect Stokes was handed an 8 match ban by the ECB for brining the game into disrepute. Given all the talk about the spirit of cricket (a myth) in regards to yesterday's game I'd say it is relevant the the England Captain has previously been banned and fined for bring that sport into disrepute. The only controversy was whinging from England again the dismal itself was clear cut the ball was going to hit the stumps and run Stokes out so he flung his hand out to stop it from doing so. That is cheating. The Sri Lanka New Zealand game does bare relevance as it was a similar situation in that the batsman dozily walked out of his crease before the ball was dead and after that the bails were removed. And it bares even more relevance because the New Zealand wicket keeper who dislodged the bails was one Brendon McCullum and it wasn't the first time he had done it. Think yourself lucky it's £41 for me to sit in my usual seat at Taunton on Friday night for the quarter final and that is with the grand total of a £5 members discount. Carey certainly didn't wait as long as Foakes does here. Now just like with Carey I have no problem with what Foakes does here it is good sharp thinking but I do wonder if those criticising Carey do have a problem?

I'm not fully convinced by Labuschagne outside of Australia yet. Only averaging 37 with 1 century away from home. I did have to chuckle at Broad yesterday taking the moral high ground. They were side lined by their own board just as the current England captain was side lined by his own board for bringing the game into disrepute. He has also previously been given out obstructing the field, that is genuinely cheating. One thing we know for certain is that Brendan McCullum the wicket keeper would have done what Carey did as he did a similar thing to Murali in 2006.

He's not the first and he's not that last to get done for ball tampering, Smith was given a disproportionate ban by his own board and has served his time compare that to Atherton when he was caught he continued on as captain into the next test. We won't be whitewashed, this Aussie team is good but not great. Some jingoistic nonsense here. The underarm incident was wrong and a clear gap in the rules which was changed after it was exploited for the first time. The Bairstow dismal and similar ones have happened numerous times over the years and the laws have not been changed because it is not exploiting the rules it is just sharp fielding taking advantage of gormless batting, just like when de Grandhomme was run out at Lords last year, or when Brendan McCullum whipped the bails of to run Murali out in 2006. The only person to blame for all 3 of those dismals are the dozy batsmen. As for the win at all costs attitude an Aussie would point to 32/33 with England exploiting the rules to win at all costs in regard to bodyline. Personally I would disagree with that and believe that bodyline was a fair tactic that used the full potential of a frighteningly quick attack and troubled the greatest player the game will ever see to deliver arguably England's greatest ever series victory. They could also point to the fact that England have the second most players out obstructing the field in international cricket, including the only one in a test match, that is cheating & against the laws of the game. They could also point to Paul Collingwood upholding the appeal to run out Grant Elliott in 2008. Was using Murray Mints to shine the ball riding roughshod over the ethos of the game of cricket and lowering the standards expected from players? Again I personally don't have a problem with it but it is another thing a jingoistic Aussie might point to about England As for your talk of the ethos of the game England are captained by a man who has been given out obstructing the field after using his hand to stop the ball from hitting the stumps to run him out. When Stokes got a fortunate 4 overthrows of his bat in the World Cup final did he worry about that? Surely if he wanted to uphold the spirit he should have just blocked the next ball out. And don't forget that the England captain has also been fined and banned by his own board for bringing the game into disrepute.

If you want to count the Ireland result then carry on. But I don't class that 4 day game as a proper test match. Ireland should be nowhere near test cricket they are a team of county 2XI standard players from a country that does not even have a first class competition.

Only one side have ever come back from 2-0 to win and they had Bradman and won arguably the greatest test ever to start the comeback. It's still plausible that England could draw the series but the chances of winning 3 in a row to get the urn back are very very slim.

And now they have lost 3 in a row.

You don't think Stokes gets in over Green?

I must have missed them bowling under arm in this test.

And here are England's previous results from the last 5 home Ashes series. The 'Bazball revolution' is on the cusp of delivering a first loss at home to Australia in 22 years.

That was 42 years for god sake.

The first innings was the difference between the two teams England put them in and by your own admission they were perfect bowling conditions and Smith stood up a made a fine century. I'd have thought you'd have learnt after the first test that first innings runs are vital.

So I assume that Ben Stokes is a cheat in your eyes given he has previously been given out obstructing the field? How do you feel about Mike Atherton on commentary? That's is exactly the sort of answer that I would have expected from you.

That was 5 and half years ago. Isn't it time to move on? And he didn't cheat his way to a win as South Africa thumped them.

Who cheated?

The footballification of crowds at test matches in this country is awful. Booing Smith when getting his well deserved man of the match award just isn't cricket.

The results against Australia under them so far is reminiscent of the 90's.

This series ia all but gone and you can forget about us winning in Australia in a couple of years time. Come the next series over here it will be 12 years since we have beaten them. A damning reflection of the ECB's management of red ball cricket in this country over the last decade.

It took until the 5th day of the second test but England finally played the situation however it was to little to late and this team are now on the cusp of being the first England team to lose at home to Australia in 22 years.

His series was over whether he batted or not yesterday. Great commitment from him to contribute to an important 15 extra runs. It wasn't quite Eddie Paynter in 32/33 but he showed great commitment to his team. Australia obviously want to make it a tight finish still as they have brought Green back on.

To be fair England were bowling it a bloke on one leg.

I expected no less from Guy Lavender. They were truly shocking scenes.

Were England 'scumbags when they ran De Grandhomme out last year at Lords?

Green can only be in the Aussie team for his fielding because he can't bat or bowl.

Was it in the spirit of the game when England ran De Grandhomme out last year at Lords? For me both incidents were dozy batting and fair dismissals.

What on earth was Bairstow thinking such dozy cricket. It sums up England's attitude, far to lax.