So in the space of 4 hours he has gone from being an upgrade to a big upgrade and being compared to Sparky and Sam. I think you are getting ever so slightly carried away with a man whose sole managerial achievement to date is finishing 17th in his one season as a manager. Also given that Birmingham's new owners had planned all along to replace him with Rooney I highly doubt that he was responsible for those summer signings.

Based on what? He has had one full season in management where he guided to Birmingham to 17th. If in the summer we had sacked JDT and appointed Eustace no one would have said it was an upgrade, Eustace has only developed a reputation thanks to Rooney doing such a dreadful job at Birmingham.

Eustace's reputation has been enhanced not because of anything he did but because of the disastrous job Rooney did at Big Club. As you say Eustace did a similar job to the numerous Birmingham managers before him.

The club has never been stable since the takeover, Broughton is merely a symptom of owners who in the last 13 years have taken the club back decades. In which case the two situations cannot be compared. Because as you acknowledge Mowbray had a lot of control of his situation whereas JDT has had little.

Williams (player of the season that year if I remember correctly) was as good a full back as Pickering. Mulgrew was a better centre half than Hyam. Lenihan was a better centre half than Carter. I'd take Craig Conway on the wing over Dolan, much more end product. It didn't have a player like Szmodics but it did have more goal scorers in it with Graham, a better version of Gallagher, Emnes and Joao. The midfield if you include Wharton (but we don't have him anymore) was stronger.

The only main player Mowbray lost during his tenure at the club was Adam Armstrong. His final season was the only season where the club received more in transfer fees than it spent.

Look at the current midfield. Greer was in his mid thirties and signed on a free from a fellow Championship club where he was captain, sound familiar? Stokes was no worse than Ennis. I'd take Emnes over Telaovic everyday of the week. I don't think there is much between our current squad and the squad that went down I'd say the one that went down was slightly stronger as it had some good experienced pro's life Mulgrew, Graham and Conway.

Look at the money Mowbray spent £12 Million on two players alone. JDT has had players bought for him by that clown Broughton with the biggest fee being a couple million. Mowbray also until his final season when Armstrong went never lost anyone of his key players. No sooner had JDT taken over and the club captain had gone along with our best midfielder. Then in this summer he lost his goalkeeper, his top scorer and now in the winter has lost his best midfielder.

So you think we are going down even though we are 5 points clear of relegation with 17 games to play (which is a game in hand on 22nd). But you think Mowbray could do nothing to keep us up even though we were only 3 points adrift with 15 games to play.

We were 3 points from safety with 15 games to play when Mowbray took over. That is more than salvageable plenty of clubs have been in that position and stayed up. Currently we are 5 points clear of the drop with 16/17 games left to play. So I assume you think that we are already safe from relegation? You certainly apply some strange logic you don't give Mowbray any blame for relegation in a season where he managed over 30% of the games. Yet think it's all JDT's fault that 'As we stand, since 2001, we haven't been in a promotion position for the league that matters'.

Here you are celebrating Tony Mowbray's achievements of getting us promoted from the third tier (after getting us relegated which you fail to mention) and then in 4 seasons in the Championship achieving a highest finish of 8th. And in the same post you talk of an acceptance and celebration of absolute mediocrity.

He was brought in first of all to keep us up and he failed. So he certainly wasn't a good appointment in that respect. Have you noticed the massive cut in budget? Would you care to compare what Mowbray spent on players he wanted to what JDT has had spent for him by that clown Broughton? JDT finished higher in 1 season here than Mowbray did in 6 despite having an inferior budget and not being able to bring in his own players. JDT also inherited a squad that had just lost it's player of the season and captain from the previous season.

There was damage done but it was far from mission impossible we were 3 points from safety with 15 game to play. Plenty of club have been in that position before and stayed up. This has to be satire? Surely?

Mowbray took us down to League 1 and never finished as high in 6 seasons as JDT did in 1. That despite him having a lot more funds at his disposal.

If you genuinely it is all JDT's fault that 'As we stand, since 2001, we haven't been in a promotion position for the league that matters' then you are crackers.

You can hardly lay all that at the door of JDT, he's been manager for just the last 18 months.

We never had a 2 goal lead.

Not a good look either when you are in a relegation fight but typical of the attitude of the modern young pampered footballers. This is also where you need a bit of experience in the squad to tell them to pull their socks up, man up and give the fans who pay their wages something to cheer.

Sacked again yesterday I see.

Or 3 get up and walk out when you realise that the CEO is holding a meeting involving players with no manager present. But then I suppose you couldn't come on here than bragging that you know something that the rest of us don't know.

Just when you think you have seen it all you see this 'fan meeting'. Why on earth is the CEO holding a meeting involving players with no manager present. The whole thing looks like nothing more Waggott looking to get certain prominent online supporters on side just days after audible chants from inside Ewood for him to go. In my opinion those fans who attended have shown a massive disrespect to Jon Dahl and allowed themselves to be Steve Waggott's pawns in his attempt to cling on to his job.

I was looking at our current squad and our squad that got relegated and I think that our current squad is poorer than the one that went down. I'm really not sure what people expect with the current squad it is a poor squad.

Yes the manager significantly over achieved last season to guide us to our best finish since relegation from the Prem. Since then though the squad has lost more than just Brereton it has also lost Kaminski, Wharton, Travis, Ayala & Morton. And in that same period the only useful signing that has been made is Tronstad. I'm really not sure where people expect this squad to be in the table as for me it is a bottom 1/3 of the table squad.

Completely agree with this, some of our fans need to wake up, have a reality check and realise that our squad isn't very good. Honestly I look at it and I'm not even sure it is as good a squad as the one that went down under Coyle and Mowbray.

It's just not a very good team. How many of those would you say are good solid Championship players 3 or 4 I'd say. I think some people overestimate our team but you look at that starting line up and bench today and it is a bottom 3rd squad.