Let’s not gloss over how tony days Walton fell in his lap . While the young goalie may improve we still have a manager who freely admits he is clueless and that is the bigger concern

Just playing devils advocate ... imagine if we did go up

It seems odd to me that people don’t just support a local team they can commit to and enjoy the highs and lows it brings naturally but there’s nowt as queer as folk . Look it’s not real betting it’s just a friendly few quid same as I would with friends

I’m not keen on the fact that he is a criminal , a fairly vile human , but he’s not in my camp, I’ve a couple of pals who have fleetwood season tickets who aren’t mad about him through principle or the chairman and his recent views ... fairly rare in football as we are normally so partisan

I’d agree if it was betting with a bookie but I’m not ok just offering a bit of fun for a few quid with a fellow fan for charity if they want , neither of us can really lose

Oh I see what you mean , genuinely went over my head as I don’t bet much . I was just offering to bet an amount of Money as he was so confident and I’m so pessimistic . Ok I’ll put on the table 5x What he does as you are the arbiter of what is fair to your guy . How big shall we go ?

I think what frustrates the most is we have these tremendous games and runs and just when we are in grasping distance we blow it and it seems as regular as clockwork .... maybe not this time . It’s the hope that kills you .

How graceful . If only all could be like that

See I’m not a betting man . I was just talking a flat 50 would be nice if it was for mind but equally he can enjoy it too , and I don’t want to assume his means , it could be less , it could be 50p , is only for fun

Are you a betting man ? I hope we make the play offs .... but shall we have a sneaky 50 ? For the pocket or charity . Nobody loses

A lot of pleasing things to take from today’s day out . Slightly frustrating to think of the money on the bench that could have been spent on defenders when we had dom

Goalkeeper catches ball ???

If he gets us up through the playoffs he can have another season

I think there are some facts in the post about how we approach different teams .... I think I just wish there was more unity about how frustrating things are , the tombola tactics , the groundhog teenager windows . I don’t know how we fix the predicament we are in but it doesn’t mean we have to be so accepting of it either

Yes true , as chaddy whitehouse would say why are we going on about raya ? He’s long gone .... all the people who think he is rubbish have no place for sentiment anyway .....

I’m not sure how you calculate a goalies stats like that with any degree of accuracy or not . There are so many factors not to mention being part of a particular defensive unit . mine of the two , the inferior one has a very good chance of being a premier league keeper and if he steps up we will know , the other is with a premier league club but doesn’t get a look in

It has to be a sensible fee too , he’s nowhere near a game at Brighton

He’s improved I’ll give him that , and the comments by tombola about him are completely agreeable and sensible . I’m not sure he has the raw talent that raya has the potential to turn into something special under good coaching , perhaps Walton has learned from his mistakes . The bigger picture is that he stands a better chance if we got a proper coach for him

No perhaps not but when you look at the way they do things overall he has a better chance ... he may however slip through the net no pun intended

It gives me no pleasure by the way to identify how well another club is run coached and financed , my comments are driven by envy . If Walton improves it won’t be down to coaching

He’s shown plenty of recent improvement , however he like raya has a mistake in him and unlike them I don’t have faith in our coaching to iron it out

It’s not more complicated than Brentford having a proper keeper coach that makes he think he has a better chance of improvement

If we turned down both Ronaldos due to their denim wear some would retrospectively say they were no good for us

I’d allow a young goalie a little longer to prove himself . He has a good chance unlike here with our no mark of a goalie coach

The combination of the price tag and Tony’s ineptitude has destroyed him