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Always been a Travis fan but iv'e never once seen him as a 5 million pound player especially given he only has a year left. It'll end being undisclosed fee of about 1.5 million plus add ons imo.

I thought the body language was poor from a lot of them in that first half it's not what you'd expect in the first game of a new season with everything to play for.

Or a relegated club.

Rovers 4 Bradfort 1 This is where it clicks before it unclicks again v Brum. 8,977

Failure and under achieving gets rewarded all too often in this daft industry.

He has a 7th placed finish to his name already and whilst we see it as a bit of a failure because his early stint cost us the top 6 others will put it down to lack of funds again. Of which there is plenty truth in that also. Whatever happens league position wise this season he'll have dealt with a big player turnover and might well end up with a negative transfer budget. It's a no lose job here for these average joe types off the scrapheap.

It worked perfectly well for Paul Lambert, Tony Mowbray and John Eustace whilst further enhancing the profile of JDT. People in football know the reputation of those who run and own this club so obviously take that into account when judging the potential of these guys.

He's only here to relaunch his career and as long as he does ok some interesting foreign job will appear and he'll be off whilst the two stoogies get a pat on the back for bringing in a bit of compo.

No surprise at the dot joining going on here as that agency and co were so heavily involved here right from the start they were never going away. The connections to India make it so so obvious i mean i think even Coyle ended up over there, i wonder how ! No surprise either that the same old lot pop up just as there are players being offloaded and recruited left right and centre and now Suhail and Gestede who came from nowhere seem to have more power than anyone since Kean and Anderson. The heart of this club truly stinks rotten again.

Whilst most of us think we were toothless iv'e seen quite a few Baggies fans saying they are pleased how they tried to play but we looked a solid well organised side who largely stopped them and we'll do ok again. Seen a few also saying 'Dolan is a big miss for them'.

Good club WBA, good bunch of fans not like most of the other grotty Brum types. Everything we used to be instead of the hollowed out shell we've become.

Who seems hell bent on dispatching every English player in order to fill out the squad with imports. Not wise, the Championship is very British in terms of aggression and stupid fixture congestion. Not sure how a lot of these lads will hold up on freezing piss wet November nights when things aren't going well. It tends to be your Travis types who pull you through that.

That's exactly what has gone on the signings are made out of necessity this regime has never 'built' anything they just replace and cobble together. All through Mowbrays tenure barring league one all that ever happened was padding out the squad. The odd bits of investment were and still are just brought in on an individual bases were they think it is a player who can be given games then sold for profit. Every one of these signings now will be stat based and what value they think they can get after 50 to 100 games. Remember Mowbray saying i don't look at the table and not that bothered about results as long as he can see good possession stats and individuals developing ? An utterly bizarre thing to say but born out of the truth because that is the mantra here now.

Thought the defence did well and Toth kept us in the game i don't think it's wrong to say if Pears was in there we are beaten soundly. Angry at the silly passing it around under pressure at the back rearing its ugly head again That will cost a needless goal soon enough, cut it out it doesn't make great footballers out of average ones it just causes steady ones to dither.. Football wise and attacking wise i thought we were crap the pressing was pedestrian and passing/shape disjointed for most of it. At least Kargbo has a go and provides an outlet i think if we started him yesterday he puts WBA on the backfoot from the off whereas instead they took early control. In the end couldn't have moaned at a draw if we pinched it but overall probably a fair result and i think this new look side is going to take a while to find its feet. You can feel the undercurrent of concern in the fans who were rather subdued imo given the number there and the lid will come off guaranteed up we don't get a few wins under our belts.

When you somehow managed to finish knocking seriously on the door of the play offs 3 out of the last 4 seasons why would you need a complete root and branch reset and clearing of the decks ? Surely it requires a try and build on that year on year approach with as few sales as possible and moderate investment in weak areas whilst FFP allows ? Just seems to me they think balls to that we can go with a much cheaper higher staff turnover sales model and still land safely in midtable every year. Crazy, ambitionless, serves only those who want an easy life and those who gain commissions and above all is dangerous to remaining at this level.

Yet swathes or should i say throngs of the remaining fanbase still lap it up especially after the LT bots do their propaganda as well.

The club didn't want to pay contracts of 10k pwk or more to them i assume. If Suhail is saying spending big money doesn't guarantee higher league position you can bet the thinking is same with the wages. At some point this man will drag this club back into league 1 in the near future i'd say that IS guaranteed.

Whether they were offered contracts or not the outcome is the same, they left or will leave so there are deep issues involved obviously. For what it's worth the Nyambie, Lenihen, BBD scenario's played out the same over a similar period and they all left as well. We heard the same stuff they were offered great deals - at the 11th hour once their ahents had something else lined up. Same pattern at play, same narrative created of blame all the players, same guy in the shadows being unaccountable yet letting the same things happen over and over. Some might say him and his bosses are the real problem.

You've got to hand it to ChatGP it's a hell of a lot more detail than the usual back of a fag packet stuff Waggot scribbled down. We'll probably end up with an AI virtual CEO. To say though that it's yet another patronising crock of crap is an understatement but never mind we'll roll it out alongside Alan Shearer and everything is fine.

Mission complete now he's seen off Waggot who was obviously brought in on request or recommendation of Mowbray/Venus and their agent. Hence now he has his own stooge in Rudy and is out of the shadows with seemingly an F You attitude towards any questioning.

It's very evident this Suhail guy isn't a football person and despite being here a decade and possible affiliation with that agent/agency nobody has heard of he's still way out of his depth. Just a pounds and pence balance sheet man who looks and talks on everything in numbers, the lower the better it seems so it's no wonder they want to shrink the whole thing to a size they can easily manage. The prospect of trying to go the other way is not only beyond them but clearly terrifying.

Waggot will be on gardening leave until his notice period ends which means he'll still be getting paid. I'd wager he walked into this job worth a few hundred grand and has walked away a millionaire so will he give a toss ? No chance, he'll say nothing and probably realise he's better off out of it once the dust settles.

Hey look iv'e increased ticket income in my first season in the job and if crowds are down over the season we'll need a few less staff so iv'e cut costs as well. That'll look good on his cv when he's begging Arsenal for a job. Have no fear though Yasir these things have a habit of biting you on the arse. It's crystal clear Suhail is as iv'e long suspected the main problem here i'm absolutely astounded he let Mowbray go as that kind of shield and plodding along is exactly what he is all about. There must've been a falling out or hes had a brainstorm that he could do it cheaper with a head coach model unless he was told from above things had to change. He is imo the chief architect of the shoulder shrugging attitude that has been obvious here for a decade. Cut prices 'what's the point we won't double the gates'. Invest year on year 'what's the point it doesn't guarantee anything' - Well it might effing well do if you backed the right man ! Promotion ? 'what's the point we'll only get relegated straight away, might as well sit in the league as long as we can for as cheap as we can'. It's no wonder half the fanbase says 'what's the point' !

So he's now saying he is accountable as well for all the non contract re-signings and lost revenue ? Surely the owners should now be asking him serious questions on that. No wonder hes been hiding in the shadows so long he's clearly full of shit or has no grip whatsoever on what goes on and does he care as long as he gets paid and has a jolly time of it ?

We start with Travis and Trondstat and try and get as many points as possible on the board first few months then gradually integrate a new look midfield. Trav is ok with this as they've a gentleman's agreement he'll see out his contract and leave or be sold/loaned in Jan if he's out of the team. Or is that far too sensible.