I'd say to anyone debating don't bite your nose off to spite your face, if you have to think hard it means you still want to go so just go because those tossers won't care either way. I'm all for hitting them where it hurts and making a statement but not enough will do it to get the leeches to be held accountable and Waggot will put everything else up, more cat A's, cup prices etc to offset it and cover his own arse. I've always personally thought a one match boycott was the way to go i don't see why anyone, ST holder or other couldn't all stop away from just one game to make a point. However, it turned out we had something to play for so it was never going to happen, next season it should though.

Well at least half of them aren't out on the piss on a Tuesday afternoon like in Bowyers tenure.

Perhaps that's the real reason the drawbridge has gone up. They've spent what they deem they'd get back from 1 season in the Prem plus parachutes and haven't got a promotion so that's it they won't go any further. It's hard not to feel they've cut the club adrift now aside from maybe a sponsorship deal with the Venky part of the company despite what waffle is spouted by the 3 goons. A few things dropped in there bu Suhail got my attention after telling everyone there are no restrictions he drops in bits about owners saying 'we'll see what we can do to help' and 'we'll help you if we can', very concerning if you think about it. Certainly doesn't sound like 'we'll pay all the bills don't worry' type stuff we used to hear.

It's nice how he leaves out that during the 2000 mins we ended up fighting relegation till the last day. The reason it dropped so drastically was they had to bring in a coach to make sure there was no relegation scrap again and his method against that was use more experience. Which resulted in us being 5th when he left. So Gestede is it ok if we fight relegation again or even go down just so you can get 2000 mins in the kids ? Also he might want to add they flogged a couple first chance they got who had racked up some of those mins.

It's not 1995 !

I actually think they'd hang on a while longer, figure out a way to get as much back as possible from a season up there then probably put it up for sale on relegation. Maybe with stipulation that they get some of or all of the parachute money which would obviously make it difficult but it would actually deter fly by nights who only had their eyes on that. At least that's what i'd do business wise because it's the only chance of getting significant money back. Just couldn't see them letting go on promotion for less than 100 mill plus and i still couldn't see anyone paying that for the club but you never know. Verdict is we'd probably be stuck with each other and go through another doom loop unless we could get back up again which under this stewardship would be very unlikely imo.

The Dolan situation is just a rehash of the Lenihen, Nyambe ones, maybe even BBD as how do we know after being low balled 2 years ago he hasn't had a good foreign offer waiting on the table ? They'll offer him a token gesture at the last min then say they bust a gut to keep him and made a 'massive' offer. In reality head office eyes a nice bit if compo and the ability to reinvest 5 of his 8k a week into a loan deal rather than commit to a weekly double figure 3 year contract, then tell India they've cut costs again. Their idea of investment 🤨

Dolan has been no different than any other young developing player at this level in that hes been inconsistent and in and out of form. Difference to the average joes like say Buckley for example is hes had plenty runs of good form and when hes good not only does he make the team come alive he can be unplayable at times. He's got graft and a bit of flair in him which is why he should've been 'Tyed' down a few years ago because despite the obvious frustrating stuff there's always been a match winner there as well. He's unlikely to get a Prem move but plenty Championship clubs will like him he's worthy of any squad in this league.

The shit will simply have to hit the fan at some point unless someone turns into a 20 mill player or they resume serious funding. I see a firesale starting next summer.

Thing is if he has a bit of a bang average WLD style record maybe a bit like TM then that's what they are looking for here. An average coach who'll accommodate young players and loans whilst mixing it up enough to be comfortable in the league and getting value in players via appearances. That is the be all and end all here now everything else is either a little bonus - great first half of season doesn't mean a promotion push it means we won't go down when the weaknesses and injuries kick in. Or it's collateral damage, long losing steaks and odd season fighting relegation. So unfortunately we judge head coaches on the points and where we finish whilst they use different metrics altogether, squad value, youth mins, work under ever reducing costs, cope with angry fans, stay up.

Yep i doubt they could offer Ty a standard 10k a week plus bonuses contract over 3 or 4 years and a signing on/loyalty bonus due to not knowing wtf will happen beyond the next year or so's guaranteed income.

I think the assumption was he's already on 8k and been offered the same which would sum this lot up perfectly. Looks like they have a different ceiling for academy grads that they won't go beyond but will happily throw money at short term signings and loans.

Ah cheers that's him i couldn't remember the name but i do remember my mates dad saying who the bloody hell is that when they were warming up 😂

If they'd invested in him when they should have then they'd be looking at a nice fee now plus add ons if there was genuine interest and if not we'd still have a year or two of him to hit his peak. BBD, Rothwell, Nyambe, Lenihen, now Dolan all allowed to walk out of the building for free. Utterly pathetic the whole board need sacking but no doubt to India if they are even questioned they'll lay blame on Mowbray, Venus, Broughton and say this is why we needed Rudy. The COO and CEO are ultimately responsible for all this regardless of whatever other characters might have been involved, the heads of the club should stand to account !

Google the word 'ironic'.

Seeing as Gestede is Head of Everything they're probably waiting for the ok from him !

Vaguely remember going there around Christmas time pre Jack and i'm sure we won 2-1, Garner scored and we had a rookie keeper on loan i think. Then i think we won there a time or two in the Prem when the revolution started but after that not much it's certainly never been a 'big game' happy hunting ground. Can't see it changing they'll have a point to prove they aren't a team to sit back at home but you never know with this Rovers team, big test for Ismael.

He might be on about 4k a week so that's double pay but even so it's practically shoving someone like him out of the door he'd get more at Millwall or maybe even Preston. He's worth a double figure weekly wage imo and it's a proper investment instead of pissing 20k a week away on the likes of Dennis or Poveda types.

Odd odd club Brum are they had to drop into league 1, spend record amounts of money and wages for that div in order to become a 'big club' and fill their ground. Averaging similar to us a while ago in the Championship but as pointed out they have hundreds of thousands on their doorstep to draw from every time there is a sniff of success in some form. Brum hardcore fans are sound enough apart from the coin chucking scum but the fly by nights jumping on and off their bandwagon are clowns. Must be the most hated team of all time in league 1 but i suppose Wrexham are grateful for that but i think it's incredibly sad to spend so much in that league and it does the state of the game no favours at all.

It doesn't face the cameras these days otherwise Suhail would be up there himself scrubbing away.

If they've any ounce of sense left they'd be announcing a months extension to the early bird price.

Buckley would be a good league 1 player in a decent team otherwise he's never anything more than a squad man back up player at this level. That won't change i don't think.

I'm happy for Eustace in a way but by the same token he did bail out and a lot of Derby fans have shown themselves to be delusional so i'm half hoping they drop. However if Preston dropped instead i'd chip in for a bus parade around Derby for Eustace. One thing you can guarantee with the knobbers is they do second half of the season combustion's better than even Rovers ever do and they argue they are the best run club in Lancs 🤔

Has to have a clean slate going into next season now it's only fair whatever happens in Sheffield. I know we say this regularly these days at this circus run club but this really is the most important summer for many years and a bad one you could stick Slott or Klopp in that dugout and it wouldn't end well. Seems to me now the players have bought into him which clearly they didn't for a while, blame for that can be put in various areas the main one being upstairs for allowing another season wrecking situation to develop. I'd keep Ismael and boot those above him !

They;ve both been involved recently and haven;t really pulled up any trees in fact they've been pretty poor so no miss whatsoever today.