Tomphil2

Show some class for once and admit you were wrong.

The only bitterness anyone should have is over the lack of compensation but at the same time everyone with an ounce of sense knows where the blame really lies on that.

I don't know what tax implications are over there but perhaps that might help and he'll be on more than he was on here now that's for sure. Think a less demanding environment over there might suit him as well and by that i mean the standard is high but here whenever things weren't going well he always looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. Over there a free transfer from the English second tier should ensure a bit less pressure on him to start with at least. Awful for us compo wise but no more than the clowns who run Ewood deserve, not that they'll git a stuff.

Yeah i mean they are only a Laliga team after all i mean imagine turning down Blackburn and Derby to do that. Shithouse no ambition at all.

Well well turns out he's good enough for a top flight Spanish team to take a punt after all. Who'd have thought........

A guy whose hidden away for a decade and is now under the cosh from fans is suddenly strolling up to chat to people full of Sangria under the hot sun ? Hmmm.

Well i'm sure some do dream of playing for Plymouth and Stoke on loan 🤨

Never heard of this club nor city if i'm being honest and it seems they've had an interesting time over the last decade. A ground a bit bigger than Ewood, a city with 100k more people and a similar crowd trajectory to us, wonder if they get the same stick !

The numpties inside Ewood will be banking on Brum selling the whole DE that's how they operate. They couldn't give a toss if those prices make a potential 15k home turnout into 12k.

Look where Tosin was at 20 ? Look where he is now, there is obviously still a great career path to be had on the books of the big boys but you need to a bit fortunate and also stand out wherever you're sent. Doubt Ash will be as good as him though and he'll have been sold the dream of being in Spuds squad almost instantly in order to blag him and his parents. Now they'll be loaning him to the best place for a shop window job and at a club who themselves could probably buy him if they really wanted to. It still would have made as much if not more sense footballing wise staying here, but not as much wonga and ego obviously.

Philips would naturally have overtaken Carter in the squad had he stayed. When you have true progression and in perfect hindsight Carter would've been sold for 2/3 mill plus add ons and Phillips steps in. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that when injuries/agents/greed and pushy parents are in the mix as well but lessons need to be learned in tying boys to some sort of deal that benefits both. The rules for this need looking at as well otherwise the academy at its top level becomes pointless and too many kids just disappear into the big club system with a few more quid in their pockets and a promising career up in smoke.

I think once they knew there was a whiff of compensation in the air they couldn't help him through the door quick enough.

Virtually guaranteed 10/11k home turnouts now for a few games at least. Seems to be what these lot want though.

They've also brought in premium pricing in the centre section of the DE i think, maybe just the upper tier. Now that's something i kind of agree with, if you can fleece a huge away support then fair enough but if you're doing it on the back of fleecing the few home fans as well then it's pathetic. Unless they come up with a ticket deal in the opposite end to cover charging big for single tickets in the DE then it'll fall flat on its face. Are they now actively trying to kill off the BBE ?

Not a fan of pre planned subs for the sake of it, the number of times that has altered a game we were doing ok in was needlless. I'm going back to GB's time now where he always seemed to make a change on 65 mins for the sake it and its crept in a lot since then. Yes i get there will be times it's necessary but beyond that subs should be organic purely made to reflect on the game as it unfolds. As for Gueye i agree, imo we've always missed a big athletic centre front man to throw on whereas a lot of other clubs see it as a must have in their squads in this league. God knows how many times we've had it done against us and lost goals because of it, horses for courses. Learn how to utilise Gueye and he's a good asset.

It's bonkers it really is. I know there are a few conspiracies, some with legs and some without but if you were deliberately trying to hold something suspended in the same loop over and over and maybe cover something up then you'd go about it the way they do. Even with other clubs with crazy ownership you can kind of see what's at play when some overspend trying a quick fix then it goes wrong and they are in the shit. Others like Watford try and play a different game and of course there are the Brums and Wrexham's driven by ego. These lot though ? Even if some don't agree it's the worst ownership it is without doubt the strangest ....and longest oddball situation in football.

Its always been short termism they wing it and cobble a squad together every summer there is no steadfast plan nor goal to build towards and never has been. I do believe that the occasional new man has come in with a plan and they to a degree have gone along implementing the foundations, in fact that's happened a number of times, only to then quickly change track and pull it all to bits again. With Venkys you are only ever a few weeks away from the next odd decision or situation no matter how stable or well things might be going on the surface. That will NEVER change.

'I back the club and manager, he didn't fit the new style this free transfer from Shamrock is more athletic, how do you know it's cost cost cutting ? It's all part of the process, Rudy said so'

Shearer would be seeing his contract out and leaving for nothing after being lowballed 18 months previous. Then he'd be branded as shite anyway, no pace, too many elbows.

Didn't the late great Howard Kendall pilfer a few from this club after he left for Everton ? It happens, if you work with good players you're going to want to take them with you but you need you're new club to back you and pay them. That's a luxury, how do we know he didn't want to sign a load of Brum players when he came here and they went down but was told no chance ?

Their target now has shifted from 10k to 9k and they'll probably come within a few hundred of that so they'll be happy again. Prices have been adjusted to cover the shortfall so happy days hey look Mr D we've hit our forecasts again, we are really good at this can we have that bonus !

Only time will tell, maybe Bell had one 'peak' season when they got promoted and is now back where he belongs whereas if Beck can maintain his potential he'll perform higher for longer. You need to park this one up i reckon.

A promotion and a Prem season would confirm that. Personally on Williams i thought for the £250k it took to buy him he was ok but that's it, always to me looked like a centre half playing at full back.

The only real answer to this daft argument is if Williams was here and Beck was his backup i think after seeing what he could do fans would be wanting him to start over Derek and any coach we've had apart from Mowbray would do so. As it is both Ribero and Pickering are capable enough defenders but don't offer what Beck did going forwards. I think i'd still pick either of those though over F Off Derek in fact i'd pick Tommy Spur over him.

Being even clearer some lads develop at different speeds and Liverpool might be well stoked through the ranks in his position whereas other positions might suddenly have a vacancy on the conveyor belt.