Tomphil2

Yes totally agree from the limited experience iv'e had with it and also everything we've seen with the club. Yes there is the caste system that plays a big part over there and i'm sure that's a factor especially when we've had an Indian chap defacto running the club. In fact i'd say its been a big part of our problems not daring to speak up to the leaders even in desperate times but face saving by them over there no i reckon it's quite the opposite. More stubbornness and arrogance than anything, we've got the $ clout so we'll do what we want.

Considering the number of defunct companies they have it seems failure is quite regular and the ONLY thing they are good at is the core business and a few of its offshoots.

Who are they losing face to apart from themselves ? I don't buy that nonsense for a second it makes no sense as owning the club and the constant negative headlines is more embarrassing than a quick cull and a bit of minimal coverage then it's gone for good. They continued to own it because after the initial plans backfired their finance people found a niche for it in the company portfolio and big Barry wanted to retain his toy. So there it has sat and as a minimal bonus on the money its cost there is a little bit comes back by way of advertising and constant positive '20 million a year' spin by commentators clearly prompted to drop that line in as much as they can. If at any point in the last decade funding this club had seriously impacted their core business or personal wealth they'd have dropped it like a hot stone, face or no face.

Correct but the money will disappear into paying bills and another good players is gone. We lose players now because they aren't offering favourable terms early enough that much has been clear for a while. We were used to having players poached every now again its always happened but the past few years we are now active sellers, not trader, sellers.

The 'years options' are proving to be both a blessing and a curse in Rovers case. Yes we have the security of another year but it means they leave contract renewals too late because of that security and by then it's too late because agents are already at work alerting their players to what kind of wages and signing on fees might be out there.

Telling them they don't need to send any money hes got it all in hand.

As far as we know although it's by his own words, so take with a pinch of salt, he was instrumental in getting Eustace in and getting Mcfadz etc and that kept us up. However he must've played his part in not backing TM, JDT and also not moving Mowbray on earlier plus there was all the Broughton stuff and 11th hour signing failures so he's still a twat. Thing is though next time we are in the mire who has the hand on the tiller without out any assistance ?

Problems with that began just after takeover on instruction by the agents who were employed to run the show looking for personal gain bagging Mrs D the wage bill must be cut. I'd say they were responsible for the asset stripping when they set their intentions in motion of selling everybody and bringing in cheaper replacement whilst garnering their %. Idiots in Pune signed all this off instead of listening to Allardyce, Williams etc, just when they should have been using their wealth and takeover to build the club up again they all began pulling it apart. So the asset stripping tag has stuck and they hold ultimate responsibility for that even if now it doesn't really fit their agenda.

He'll find it very interesting at Boro or Celtic when he hits one of his bad runs that's for sure and if i was Gestede i'd be advising him football wise the grass mostly isn't greener when you leave Ewood. Funnily enough Villa fans tried to lynch him and Boro fans weren't enthralled either.

We'll find out in the next few years for sure and whilst it's an unpopular opinion and in no way an endorsement of his overall ability or tenure it might turn out it was only Waggots interventions that kept us in this league recently.

Who backs up the back up players who are now starters 🤯

Venkys ownership has killed just about everything else in one way or another so season ticket sales just go hand in hand with that. Nobody trusts them from one week to the next even most of their 'defend the status quo' mob if they are being honest.

Announce prices ..then early bird big discount for a decent length of time then back to the original price and leave it at that. No need to complicate anything with such a small fanbase and similar numbers who'll buy year in year out. Only way to increase volume significantly is a really big price cut or promotion anything else is pointless deck chair shuffling you'd think they'd have learned that by now. Always the chance of a late uptake if some decent signings are made and some ambition shown but that is ruled out in this era so it is what it is.

Again i go back to Gestedes words on trading academy players and wonder exactly what he means. Sell the really good ones early with a load of add on's to provide a new income stream then try and make something of the rest ?

We also nearly got relegated because on top of JDTs open style once the squad had to be used the back up development players signed and our own products weren't good enough to sustain a safe level. I hope Mr Head of Heads is considering this, that you can't go from recruiting experience to stop the rot straight to inexperience just in the name of increasing value and expect a top 10 finish.

I think the amount of home grown players who've gone on loan for their development and expected to be coming back knocking on the first team squad door, when many haven't done much in their loans, highlights the flaws of over reliance. Do we just stick some in and give them mins so it looks better on their cv and value sheets ? Not really the right approach but when you end up with no money and a thin squad you aren't giving yourselves any choice. There'll always be one or two at the most come through but you can't force it for the sake of it and the danger of that is developing here you can see it coming a mile off unless the finances are resolved.

Old red brick, trees, the kit, all an old feel too it which i guess is the point until it comes to the trainers !

They are desperate to grow another team to sell within a couple of years that's what the rush to 2/3000 mins is all about as well as driving down the wage bill. We have the spine, structure and experience to maybe allow that for another season at Championship level but beyond that....

Exactly but they don't give a toss and they get paid anyway whether he leaves for a fee or walks for nothing, club suffers but they don't. They don't support it and get the same rewards the season after whether the team finishes 6th or 16th.

He's referred to us as Rovers in the local article ever thought it might be The Times copy that alters things ? He isn't for sale he's free at the end of June.

As always the truth will be somewhere in the middle but the cast iron evidence shows this keeps on happening here these days. It goes totally against the model they keep saying they are running, it is counterproductive in the long run and costs more in replacements and lost transfer income than it would in a decent first offer to get a better chance of a good outcome.

Owners and their stooge are probably desperate for a new CEO - as cheap as possible - because it is another shield front of house for them. Anything to move the spotlight even if it costs 300k per year.

Can understand the Plymouth - Rooney thing as he was a big name and that brought a bit of profile to a small club from a rarely mentioned non footballing area. He worked for the wage they offered and walked without a pay off so in terms of a gamble it was probably worth it for them it just didn't pay off. Bit different to bringing him in here.

The Head of (formerly work experience) Popcorn, hotdog, ushers and bog cleaning has spoken.

Alan 'pin the tail on the donkey' Nixon.