Mattyblue

That’s what Hull do and it kicked off with their fans. Though I’m sure at some clubs direct debits just roll on to the next season ticket unless you cancel.

Bang on Hasta. As I said the other week, the club could have had their cake and eaten it too with this game. We could still have charged Leeds fans full whack, but made it a ‘local promotion’ for our fans - £15 or whatever, would have been a fantastic occasion to get folk back in the habit. But no, charge a fortune and push them towards their TV.

It’s a place of opinions, one person’s ‘doom and gloom’ is another’s realism. Threres nothing more tiresome than people banging on about others ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ posts.

Those living in Hyndburn, are you seeing a noticeable increase of Stanley shirts?

Rich Sharpe said ‘slashing prices shown not to be the answer’ That was shown when? If he means because of the half arsed deals they did last season, no wonder.

No, because the club is ALWAYS correct in your eyes, so you can’t be debated with.

Just don’t bother arbito. He’s always right until he’s proven wrong.

The EFL spokesman in The Times says ‘Upon introducing both the red button and steaming services at the start of the season, the potential impact on attendances was highlighted and was always going to be assessed as part of a wider review, which will include all fixtures up the end of October regardless of when they were played. Only after this process has been completed can we start to understand any effect on live attendances’ So once this review and assessment has been completed and they realise crowds have fallen in midweek by twice the amount of last season, then what? What can this ‘review’ alter considering the deal is signed?

Rubbish. Most folk on here have stated that the club seems to be much better run these past 18 months or so. But, if for example, the Chief Exec misses his own target for season ticket sales then we can criticise him.

Who signs off the TV deals? I’m assuming that EFL bureaucrats in their Preston office don’t do it unilaterally. Are they not voted on? Seems like lower league chairman like yer man at Stanley seem to have been totally caught out by it. Odd state of affairs.

Match day prices do compare to other clubs and they are all too expensive. Up to £30 a ticket here and at Bolton. Madness for lower league football in this area. Season tickets work out at about £14/15 a game so I’d agree they aren’t too bad. We all know actual midweek crowds are always lower, I bet we all see plenty of season ticket holder seats empty every Tuesday/Wednesday night. Key difference is is that they are sill counted in the figures and have paid for the ticket regardless. Such people know they miss a few games but they still deem the ST decent value. In the future they may not bother buying one in the first place if they realise they can watch nearly half the home games on TV - they may think it’s no longer worth the outlay - that’s what you’re not grasping, nothing to do with those missing an odd game getting a chance to see it, or those that live miles away or folk like us getting to watch Swansea away.

That’s football fans for you. Takes all sorts. Some are really committed, some are ‘pick their games’ types, some prefer going away, some are loosely fans of their club but not particularly arsed, some just moan about the club even though they’ve not been there since 19xx and so on. So not sure what your point is unsall and why it means we shouldn’t be concerned about crowds now and in the future.

Oh I’ve no visions of those returning, it’s elements of the regular and semi regular attendees I envisage dropping off. There’s evidence of it on this thread already - and this is from fans that spend their days on an Internet forum relating to the club - so invested folk. This won’t be just a Rovers issue, end of the day we won’t really know until next season and subsequent ones.

Who’s blaming the club? It’s the EFL to blame for the ridiculous red button initiative (though presumably this deal was voted through?)

People want the best for the club unsall, simple as that. As for your actual suggestion, it would be a good idea to offset increases in TV revenue with cheaper tickets, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

What about those that can’t make it? They don’t get to watch it, simple as that. But again you aren’t grasping it chaddy, so here I go. This isn’t about mad committed fans that maybe can’t make on odd game. Using you or me as an example, it wouldn’t stop us buying a ST in the future, we’d just be happy we got to see a game we’d have otherwise missed. However, there maybe others that are weighing up renewing for whatever reason, maybe they struggle to get to non Saturday afternoon matches etc or they pick their games, THEY could well keep their cash in their pocket.

I’ll be topical. Scrap at least two international breaks. Play in two/three windows. I.e November, March, end of season.

For fans that weren’t attending anyway, it’s a great development for them. However , this issue you don’t seem to be grasping is it is about those that will possibly stop buying a season ticket or a match day ticket at £25+ once they realise they can watch not far off half the home games on TV.

I believe this TV deal runs till about 2021/22, so it could have done untold damage by then.

Both Sky and other media only talked about midweek games being on the red button when promoting it in August. The fact that ALL matches outside the 3pm Saturday window will be legally available was hidden about 10 paragraphs down an EFL press release when the new TV deal was signed last year. All very disingenuous and as blueboy says we’ll see the real impact of if next season.

Any Riversiders transferring to the Jack Walker for the QPR firework display?

Of course, they speak like politicians that often these corporate types that they hedge their language even for done deals.

Miss-spoke. I like it. You can get yourself a job as a politician’s spin doctor.

Waggott on Breteton, With the tweaking of the window, it had to be a loan deal, but we are looking in January to make that permanent.” Just looking to? https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16984616.rovers-have-big-belief-in-brereton-says-ceo-waggott/?ref=mac

We’ll probably have around 10 of our home games available through Sky by the end of the season. Without doubt more than we ever had in the Premier League - only problem is we don’t have a PL product anymore to ensure folk keep bothering coming to Ewood