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You still have to get the ball into the net past the keeper. They don't just give you a goal because your team is awarded a penalty. Graham did that on Saturday therefore we were awarded a goal. Counts as scoring all day long in most people's books.

You're probably correct that we wouldn't see that much of a jump but then I'm not suggesting low prices across the board. The clubs main ticket income comes from selling STs and those who commit to them should be rewarded, but to get people to want a ST you have to hook them in the first place and to do that you don't put excuses in their way. BTW I don't have one. A Sale Sharks one proved better value as their season doesn't start properly till after the rugby world cup prelim rounds in mid October by which time we'll have stopped our gallivanting for this year. And I'll make sure I book any Rovers tickets in advance online. ?

Definitely wrong if you want fans back. You have to get people into the ground and you don't do that by penalising them for making late choices

Since I haven't a clue what you're both on about, I can't comment.

Perhaps you don't but then you're a fan. To get more fans we need to get people hooked on going to the match and get more casuals in. Suppose a mate rings you the day before and asks if you fancy going and tells you it's £25. You're not really a fan but you might fancy going for an afternoon out with a mate, have a few drinks and maybe make an evening of it after but you can't quite decide. He rings again next day to check if you're up for it but then tells you it's now £28. That's the cost of one of your drinks. However you dress it up its still a disgrace to charge more just because people want the freedom to make a choice late on. I've never been caught by it myself but I still think it's a ridiculous charge. And the 1875 thing only works if you go to more than a certain number of games. If you're just a casual attender you either wouldn't know or would think it might not be worth it

We bought nothing on the concourse for years before to be fair, since Venkys rocked up. It was one way of protesting without boycotting matches. Food at most sports venues is overpriced and poor quality.

Actually sometimes it is. People's opportunity to go to Rovers suddenly changes, other commitments get cancelled last minute, the mate you want to go with, who said he couldn't go says he can at the last minute. It's ridiculous to charge more for something like a football match just because people cant commit in advance. For example, I was coming back from holiday yesterday and might have been able to get there, but it would have been close so I wouldn't have bought tickets in advance, but if I'd got back in time why would I have wanted to pay extra to go. It's just daft.

If he's still here in a year it seems clear that Rovers will be in an even worse position. I can't comment on performance as I don't attend matches and won't comment based just on listening on the radio or watching on TV, but when even normally very supportive and football intelligent fans like PB are questioning his team choice and tactics it's hard to see him being in a job much longer. The prospect of who might follow him still terrifies me though

Because I used to be a languages teacher so I try to rein in my pedantic tendencies now I'm retired. Occasionally though, I have a relapse.

Sorry to be pedantic. It's cue:

He already has little defence. That's one of the problems

Night matches are great for atmosphere

I'd rather watch boring winning football than exciting losing football in the long run

And scores the first goal

Thought this was the transfer thread but if we're talking westerns I've just watched Jeremiah Johnson and Open Range, both dubbed in French.

Prices are not that expensive but if you factor in many households where they are looking at possibly 2 adults and a couple of teenagers it adds up. Do Rovers do a family ticket or a discounted second adult ST at the same address or some kind of other offer that mitigates the cost. I can remember the struggle we had paying for 2 adults and 3 kids when ours were younger and we had a good household income. Price is not the only factor in enticing people to Ewood and a number of other things put people who were once stalwarts off. But if you rely heavily on St holders for your income and crowds then you have to do more than ask Where are they? You have to actively seek them.

According to TMS potential rain tonight but not tomorrow

But then Ali hasn't been it for some considerable time. He's just picked because he could do it once upon a time. Sounds a bit like Rovers

Technology works well in cricket, tennis, rugby where the guy on the pitch decides when it's used. Football's problem is that the guy on the pitch isn't the one who decides if he needs VAR.

I think that's the reason to send them out on loan though. To give them a chance to play regularly in a different environment. Its tougher going somewhere different than staying in your comfort zone

Leaving the ground Was hard work and with the number of small children a crowd surge could have been very nasty. We often go the other way round the ground to miss the queue

Frees aren't free though are they? Wages, signing on fees etc all have to be paid and 3 of the 4 you mention are a fair way past 30. What we really need is a 28 year old or so who we can, barring serious injury, rely on to organise our defence for the next couple of seasons at least. They cost money I know. And they're not easy to come by. But working from that as the ideal we should be able to land someone capable

I believe they will but it seems odd that Mark Hughes looked first at the defence then added the attackers whereas Mowbray has concentrated on more forward areas and ignored his specialist area

What I really don't understand is why Mowbray, the defender, cant recruit defenders. Could it be true that Venkys simply wont pay for defenders as has been suggested?

The deal to sign Adam must have been sorted before the weekend because he was at Hale Barns carnival on Sunday with his family