6 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Why should kids be vaccinated form something they don't even get sick from? 

Many children have died from Covid19, some with no underlying health conditions, I posted the data a while back. Is that the only reason why you wouldn't vaccinate children? Playing Russian Roulette with kids lives?

As TS says above, why take the chance? 

It was interesting listening to Javid this morning answering questions on home working:

Marr - Sage are recommending home working, its the best way to stop the spread of this new variant. 

Javid - Sage are advisors, ministers make the decisions and its not good for the economy to insist on home working, we won't be doing that.

What Javid doesn't realise is that this new variant, potentially the most infectious yet, will run through workplaces like wild fire, everyone will be isolating, is that good for the economy Mr Javid? 

Short sighted nonsense.

27 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Yes I have a son,but hes not 5 yet. Why don't you care? You obviously don't have kids

Seriously, show me the proof that tens of thousands of fit and healthy 51 year olds have died 

I’ll ask you again, since you questioned vaccinations for 5yr olds not me:

Why do you care so much about vaccines for 5yr olds?

1 minute ago, Spartakfenni said:

promotion was the minimum given our budget, he couldn’t even win the fucking league! Revidge is right after that there’s been more bloody awful games. What was all that possession crap last season?

 

Try telling that to Ipswich, Sunderland and Portsmouth....Sheff Weds are struggling, if it was only about budgets Sunderland, Ipswich and Pompey would be in the championship.

The side was a shambles under Coyle, probably the worst I've seen in my years supporting the club, Mowbray turned things around.

56 minutes ago, den said:

You’re off again Gav.

“These people”. A real generalisation there. 
“They” see see Britain as the greatest country on earth.” Who’s is “they”?  

It’s very close to xenophobia.

Bullshit.

"These people" and "They" are the groups we've been discussing for the past 4 days, have you forgotten?

You've proven over the past few days that you're not capable of debating this subject and why would you be, you've never worked with asylum seekers, refuges, economic migrants, fleeing diplomats and many more people looking to this country for refuge. 

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's a couple of (very) good games against three pretty dreadful seasons at the moment. 

I'll give him plenty of credit if he can maintain it for the rest of the season and deliver a finish in the play off positions.

Did you forget the promotion season? Or purposely miss it out as it doesn't fit the narrative?

Send me your seat number and section, I'm coming sitting next to you for the PNE game, check its facing the pitch and talk some bloody sense into you 😉

Nowt as strange as football fans......

We site 4th in Championship, the side is playing well and posters want to sell players in January? Are you mad?

We keep this side together at all costs, we add to the squad in January, lets hope some of that Armstrong money actually reaches Mowbray, it could make the difference.

The problem we're going to have is glaringly obvious, we have a threadbare squad, one of two key lengthy injuries and we're in trouble, lets hope we stay clear of that scenario. 

Buy a couple of quality additions and keep the current squad together, we could have a chance of a playoff place.

9 hours ago, Wood26 said:

The way I see Mowbray, he’s a club legend for getting us out of league one and making the team and fans on the same page after a few years of distain.

Brilliant 😂

I actually agree with some of your posts Wood26, but that comment is stretching it by miles, you hooked a few though, congratulations. 

What I would say is he'll be remembered fondly in our house for the promotion season from league 1. Just like Kendal and Gordon Lee, who also achieved promotion from league 1. We haven't had many promotions in my time supporting the club, I'll never take them for granted, great night:

11 hours ago, 47er said:

The problems have to be solved at source and shrinking the overseas aid budget achieves the opposite.

This has been going on for decades 47er, the overseas budget has no role to play here.

The main problem is because these people see Britain as the greatest country on earth they'll keep coming and the rest of Europe will do little or nothing to help, its not there problem after all, these people are just passing through. 

Someone close to me spoke to a member of the governments vaccine task force about new Covid variant, Omicron. He said it was to late the close the borders, it had already arrived here.

It could be necessary to use modified forms of vaccine if the ones currently being used prove ineffective, but UK was already well placed to make the switch quickly thanks to the work of the Oxford AstraZeneca team.

What he also said was he believes, from the early data, that this strain is less dangerous than other strains, but spreads more rapidly, that is just a hunch, not enough data for that to be conclusive. 

Reading between the lines if this strain does become widespread UK and is dangerous, we'll need another booster, but where does this end? Flu jabs are annually for this very reason, will Covid jabs become the norm also?

18 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I refer you to my very first sentence 

Did you have a hand in Preston releasing Dolan for nothing Sparks?

It looks like government are finally learning the lessons of the past 18 months and acting quickly:

• Anyone arriving in the UK will be asked to take a PCR test
• They would then have to self isolate until they provide a negative test
• Wearing face coverings in shops and on public transport will become compulsory
• PM tells a press conference: "We don't know how effective our vaccines will be" against the new variant
• PM "confident" this Christmas "will be considerably better" than last year's
• The measures come after two cases of the new Omicron coronavirus variant were identified in the UK
• The cases - in Nottingham and Chelmsford - are linked and both people had recently been to southern Africa
• South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho and Eswatini were added to the UK's travel red list on Friday
• The red list has now been expanded again and will, from 04:00 GMT on Sunday, also include Angola, Mozambique, Malawi and Zambia

9 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Have we paid yet? If you read the papers you'd know there's doubt about it. 

In the past year, France has brought in new surveillance equipment, called in reservists and has more than 600 police officers and gendarmes working 24 hours a day – increasingly at night – to patrol a 40-mile stretch of rugged coast.

An Iranian refugee who travelled to the UK last year said he had made three attempts to leave in a boat, each of which was stopped by French police, before his group managed to evade police attention and successfully depart on their fourth attempt.

France says its forces have stopped 65% of attempted crossings in recent months, up from 50%.

So far from "doing nothing" France is working round the clock to try to resolve this crisis. 

It's almost an impossible task

I disagree the French are working around the clock to resolve this issue, Macron is posturing for the most part looking to win votes at home, he doesn't care how these poor people reach Britain as long as they do, he'd sail them across himself if he could, nobody wants the problem. 

I agree whole heartedly with you last comment, it is almost an impossible task.

15 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

If you're going down that route there's the person who made the silly claim that "France are doing nothing to stop migrants crossing the channel" copyright@Gav then tried to shrug if off with equally silly remarks about Inspector Clouseau 

This is over the past week alone, I thought you read the papers? In one the pictures a police officer is actually helping carry the ferking boat.

You don't have to be inspector Clouseau to solve this puzzle Jim.

I wonder where the £54m we gave to Macron has gone?

1 hour ago, 47er said:

He said "are lambasting the government Gav"----not"used to months ago". 
 

Its seems one or two have been trying to get off on a 'technicality' over the past few days, don't join that club 47er.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59432187

Michael Vaughan trying to save his sponsorship deals, he's got form online from 2017 and 2018, we can make up our owns minds thanks Michael. 

8 minutes ago, 47er said:

Well I've just read the last 5 pages of the Coronavirus thread and there isn't one post lambasting the government for not shutting the borders completely. Talk is all about vaccination v antivacc.

So you did make it up!

You need to go back further, we had months of the stuff 47er.

33 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Funnily enough the very same people who on the Coronavirus thread are lambasting the govt for not shutting the borders completely now want to reopen safe routes for migrants from all countries to enter here on the politics thread 

You couldnt make it up 

Its a great point 😂

14 minutes ago, den said:

The link.

You're taking the piss den, I'll not ask you again.

14 minutes ago, den said:

The answer is above. I was editing it when you replied.

read this Gav. 
This isn’t about any brexit vote - although the govt would have you believe it is. It’s about the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees.

There is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker.
https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/the-truth-about-asylum/

You're saying everyone has a right to enter the UK, no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker, we should let anyone who seeks asylum into the country, an open border policy?

Is that right?

3 minutes ago, den said:

You know my position, it’s clear.

you seem to be saying the UK shouldn’t take refugees. I don’t think you really believe that Gav, I think you’ve been confusing those refugees who are legally seeking refuge in the UK, with the brexit vote to “take back control” over our borders - that’s a laugh in itself.

 

I'll ask you again, do you want an open border policy, safe passage for anyone that rocks up?

You've been avoiding the question for 3 days now.

We'll never see another 'super group' like this one

43 minutes ago, den said:

Why are you talking about illegal immigrants and/or voting for controlled immigration?

you’re confusing that with the legal rights of refugees. These people are not illegal immigrants.

You want an open border policy, safe passage for anyone who rocks up?

Is that right?

This is a brilliant track, from 1988, you must listen to this album version loud, genius.

These lads aren't bad either