Herbie6590

11 hours ago, EasyAs123 said:

1. We have an amazing youth team that are feeding our first team. This is the envy of some of the premier league. Believe in that youth.

2. We have some very strong older players that will supplement that youth (regardless of future signings).

3. We have a manager that knows how to dig in. To survive. Believe.

4. Fans complained in 94. Sherwood was a luxury, Sutton ineffective, Flowers flappable. It doesn't matter the situation, some fans will always complain.

5. The owners aren't that bad. Yes, they don't really understand football like us and they were naive as hell. But there is no debt (It's equity). Football's changed since the 90's, what do you really expect them to do? I love the idea of a sustainable football team, that means we sell players to foot the running cost (owners are irrelevant). That's the plan.

6. Blackburn's community has changed. We need to do all we can to attract that changed community to Ewood. I don't care if that irritates some English Patriots. I welcome it.

 7. Waggott isn't perfect, but he is what we have.

8. We need to unify as fans. I'm bored of going on every week and arguing with the people around me. Players aren't perfect. Fans aren't perfect. Owners aren't perfect. But I'd never spend my Saturdays anywhere else.

9. We're the most successful team in Lancashire. That's something to be proud of. We can be successful again.

10. In order to move forward we need to accept that we won't agree. You'll read this post and say most of it is rubbish. That's fine. But come the first game of the season we must be as one. Behind the team. Believing in the team.

1. It’s decent, but it’s up against a lot of competition for talent

2. Unsubstantiated opinion

3. Unsubstantiated opinion

4. We’d finished the previous season in 2nd…in the PL…🤔

5. If they don’t want to contribute to the running costs…give the club away then, you aren’t invested

6. This is happening

7. He’s carrying out the wishes of the owners to the letter, therefore it’s more important to change the owners than the CEO

8. Fans are entitled to individual opinions…you’ve inflicted yours on us

9. Yes

10. Unsubstantiated belief…that’s religion isn’t it? 😆

34 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Shearer signed 31 years ago today. 🙋‍♂️

32…

2 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Shearer signed 31 years ago today. 🙋‍♂️

He’d get in the team now the way things are unfolding…

2 hours ago, lraC said:

This suggestion that the £200m spent, therefore means, that it’s classed as a £200 million asset is quite frankly nonsense.

I know there are a couple of accountants post on here and I’m sure they will confirm that it is the book value, not what’s  spent, on an asset that is it’s book value.

You can liken it to a company vehicle, as that will show as a written down asset in a set of company accounts each year, as most car values depreciate.

Buy a new vehicle at £30K and sell it after 3 years at £10k. The day before it sells, it will be an asset of £10k not £30K plus the cost of maintaining it. 

The car example is spot on but I don’t believe it's treated the same as in investment in a subsidiary*.
Venky’s convert their debt to shares at the end of each season so the capital invested in VLL is growing each season. The worth of that investment & how it’s shown in the ultimate parent accounts is then between them & their auditors in reality. The accounts are supposed to show a true & fair value of course…

The only time they definitely have to face facts is when VLL is actually sold. At that point, if the actual sale proceeds are less than the written-down value in their books, then the difference is their loss. 

*if a practising accountant with knowledge of global accounting wants to chime in, please add to the discussion…👍

40 minutes ago, Green Army 75 said:

Surely no one believes you are worth £200 million?

Our chairman reckons we are worth about £40 million.  We have no debt, about £15 million available this year for squad strengthening (including wages) and no old players on expensive contracts.  
 

Every ticket, and corporate package, will sell out as the club look to expand the ground.  It will be 17 500 a game this season.  We have a 7000 waiting list for season tickets  

You are clearly more developed and ambitious than we are….but you aren’t worth 5 times as much!

No, nobody in the real world does but the accountants in India might want to avoid a massive write off through their P&L until the last possible moment. 

24 minutes ago, Gav said:

@Herbie6590 Can we pin this please? Loads of excellent content.

We have 5 spaces for pinned threads on the home page - currently the Fantasy Football thread has replaced this. 
I’ll re-pin this once that launch is over 👍

3 hours ago, Moptop1 said:

I thought accounts are only kept for seven years? I asked a company for details and they didn’t have any paperwork after five years.

I maybe wrong. 

There’s plenty of statutory info at Companies House but VLL only need keep internal records for 6 years.

4 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

currently??…

Who knows what mischief I’m planning for the future…😆

3 hours ago, lraC said:

I truly believe that the messages coming out of Ewood, distancing the club from this court hearing, are a huge smokescreen and have led some people to believe it won’t affect us.

The owners are under investigation for very serious criminal matters and the Indian authorities, want their pound of flesh.

As we have seen with posts on here, ED have been strongly opposed to them being allowed to send further funds and I am convinced the extra time they have had, since the two adjournments, will have given them more ammunition to ensure they are permanently banned from sending funds abroad. 
It will not go down too well, if they are now aware that the funds leave India to fund a project it in the UK that has been described as an investment, which in reality is just a pit that money disappears into and becomes at best becomes worth around 75% less than the amount invested, so this is anything but the foregone conclusion that we are being told it is.

Add to that the potential for Venky’s to lose the £15m sat in the bond and I think even the owners will have to admit defeat.

Make no mistake this court hearing, is potentially one of the most important events in the history of the club, despite the narrative, coming out of Ewood. 

I agree. It’s like me saying “my imprisonment for tax fraud will not affect my ability to continue to fund my children’s education…they aren’t linked..”.

For absolute clarity…I am not in prison currently…neither do I have children but hopefully you get the point 😆

57 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

There  are far more criminal goings on in the boardroom and India !

That’s as maybe but if you are asking folks to risk getting a criminal record by pitch invading it’s only fair to point it out beforehand.

15 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Don't be ridiculous, do you really think that would happen?  It's mentioned as a deterrent, people rarely get charged. If you were attacking players then yes you would. Something deemed dangerous would get you a criminal record. The very worst you'd get is a small fine or a banning order.

Ridiculous? 🤔

And the next time you apply for a job and get to the section of the form where you have to disclose your criminal record…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/02/three-charged-with-invading-pitch-during-champions-league-final
 

https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/23842650.13-men-appear-court-chester-fc-pitch-invasion/
 

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/strict-match-measures-lead-to-pitch-invader-conviction

7 hours ago, Ossydave said:

I know quite a few who would be onboard, there's a lot of people on this message board who'd know quite a few too. I'm not even sure it would need 100's. 1 pitch invader halts a game, even 20 would cause major problems. 

Pitch invading also gets you a criminal record which has significant side effects for those individuals arrested. 

We should take the blue from the Burnley kit, the white from the Rovers kit; the “Black” bit from our name & “Burn” from their name to create a solid amalgamation.

As Burnley don’t have a suffix, we should use ours… so “Blackburn Rovers”…with this sort of shirt perhaps…

4 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Are the halves reversed on the back? 

You & I would get on…👏👏👏😆

8 hours ago, Mike E said:

I heard that in Cloughie’s voice. He’d have said, meant it, and turned it into motivation.

I wish Clough-type managers were still around. Think closest we’ve had in recent years (not even that recent) was the pound shop Clough: Ian Holloway.

Jose Mourinho is probably the closest.

The Round Table Show is back & we have a fabulous chat with a US based fan Jared Plotts ( @CLE_Jared ) about his 20+year love affair with Rovers.

How did it start? How does he manage to keep enthused "from a cornfield in Ohio" about the issues in our part of East Lancashire?We chat Ryan Nelson, Benni McCarthy, Tugay & er...Duncan McGuire in a wide-ranging conversation with one of Rovers most colourful supporters.

Roger Whiteside poses the questions & producer Ian chips in every now & then as is his wont..!

Listen right to the end to find out the best thing about life in Lancashire..!

https://www.brfcs.com/magazine/podcasts/the-round-table-show-me-and-3-ferrets-man!/56

Just now, Gav said:

The guy commands £15-£20m a year, has just left Liverpool in some part due to the pressure, can’t see that happening Herbie.

 

Neither can I TBH but his personality & style is exactly what this team needs & nobody English currently comes close…

2 hours ago, Gav said:

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All that said, we need to stick to a domestic manager for me, someone who understands the country, the fans and our history. 

 

Or Jurgen Klopp…who possibly understands all of those factors…heavy metal England…

2 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

I am a big Southgate fan, and think he's unarguably England's second best ever manager.... but if the idea is we need a new philosophy and identity etc surely putting him in a director would be the wrong choice? If we are going to change (and I think  we should) then we need to commit to the change? Hanging onto Southgate in whatever role would not make sense imo.

For absolute clarity I was not meaning with the FA necessarily…more a way into a club hierarchy as opposed to what was tipped pre-tournament e.g. the Man U job. 

2 hours ago, arbitro said:

And that is probably the main difference Ian. Foden and Bellingham have been excellent for their respective clubs last season but both have real quality alongside them like De Bruyne, Silva, Viniscius, Kroos and many more. I don't really see the same quality in many England players, just more functional players and up against a side like Spain with their quality it shows.

I like Southgate. He seems a really decent, likeable bloke and if he wants a new deal he could get one. Personally I don't think he will accept one though. At times during this tournament he has looked haggard and it seems to me that the criticism has really taken its toll on him and the weight of expectation has been a real burden. If I was advising him it would be to leave, have a long break and then look to get back into club management.

If I was him I’d be looking for a directorial role where he can set strategic direction, establish a culture & drive forward a vision. The team probably needs a more analytical mind, someone capable of realising what’s happening & having some options up his sleeve to affect the game. 
He’s done a great job on the whole, think back to McClaren, Capello & Hodgson; but it all has a last days of the regime feel to it now. 

6 hours ago, K-Hod said:

A lot of this rests on the manager too. Why can Guardiola get more from him than Southgate? Spoiler alert;

Guardiola is a proper manager.

He can also play him alongside better players than Southgate can…

20 hours ago, Mickey Ireland said:

I was going to start a thread and thought I'd just pop this in here.

I'm from Ireland and I've been a Blackburn fan for over 30 years (I'm 38 now) and would have regularly went over in my teenage years but then kids came etc and I haven't been over in a good 10 years now. 

I decided as kids are grown up, I'm going to attend a few games this year home and away.

Im booked over to arrive in Manchester Friday 9th day of Derby home game and flying out following evening.

I'm just looking on recommendations for Hotel to stay in Blackburn on the Friday night and where is best to get few pints before game, after the game etc 

Premier Inn M65 J4 is walking distance from Ewood. 👍

18 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Hasn't he gone?

Not yet…

21 hours ago, Tom said:

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Macron certainly delivering the hits more than misses!

Just to ensure credit gets distributed fairly - Macron are very receptive to suggestions from the club re design. But the impetus comes from the club to drive the design - although Macron will offer various suggestions re template, material, design cues etc.

The credit for these kits needs to be pointed in the direction of Fraser Read who I have found to be uniformly receptive to feedback about what might sell & why.