14 minutes ago, OJRovers said:

I really don't understand how GB wasn't stood over the shoulder of the person submitting the paperwork, waiting for the confirmation back from the EFL. Especially after last year! That's how it works with big deals in proper companies.

(Good to be back on the forum, been a while...)

We still had our other business to get done aswell

Like how late in the day did Fleck sign?

He can't be everywhere at once ,with respect at other clubs I doubt very much the dof, sporting director etc has to stand over and watch that everything is submitted correctly 

If it was the case that everything was correct regarding the paperwork with McGuire and it was just a case of the paperwork not being submitted then I personally do not hold Broughton responsible for that

It's deadline day we had other deals to get done 

People heard Friday  JDT was leaving after the QPR match 

Rumours going around on Sunday that Broughton had resigned 

Both not true so with Respect to JB I'm sure he has heard 2 have left today but there probably is no truth to it.

27 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I assume it didn't go in because of further blocking/delaying by Venkys, that seems more likely than another paperwork error. I am looking forward to hearing what Gregg says in his post window interview...

I keep reading this "looking forward to what Gregg says"

He isn't going to be able to be totally honest,if it's the owners fault etc we aint going to hear that from him.

He also won't sit there explaining that they were told they couldn't make permanent signings at a late stage.

59 minutes ago, SBlue said:

Competent at short term freebies, cheap loans, and sales though.

Probably because those deals fit In the tiny budget the owners signed off on 

The larger deals probably have to go through every single Rao family member and their multiple advisors 

8 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Because he already knew Broughton was leaving? (If GB does infact go)

Or it's Broughton isn't responsible for it 

23 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He's not to blame if a decision has been made to switch from Permanent transfers to loans obviously.

But the mechanics of getting the loan deal over the line are clearly his responsibility. Unless someone within the Club (2 obvious candidates) are deliberately sabotaging the deals.

In which case he won't resign. No-one in their right minds resigns over something that isn't their fault.

People do resign when their position keeps on getting undermined

We were making permanent bids for players on the Wednesday obviously the circumstances Broughton was working under changed on deadline day and it wouldn't surprise me at all when the cost of the loan deal for McGuire was revealed there was more interference 

33 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's unbelievable that he survived the O Brien debacle. He should have been sacked then but wasn't and look where we are now as a result- twelve months on and something similar has happened again. In that respect the Club have got what they deserved for the lack of accountability.

He's DOF so this sort of stuff is his responsibility. People want it both ways, if Waggott does something awful everyone rightly wants to blame the owners  because it's their name over the door.

The opposite seems to apply with GB though  even though transfer business is firmly within his remit as DOF. Everyone scrambles to try to absolve him for responsibility for matters clearly within his remit.

His recruitment has been shite as well imo. (I know you disagree so let's not run through merits of individual players for the zillionth time.) Suffice to say I think we saw what JDT thought of it with only one of the six available signings starting the game on Saturday.

Not convinced he'll go this time anyway. He'll probably attempt to bull shit his way out of it and come up smelling of roses for a second time.

Say what you like but these O Brien and Mcguire type debacle have only started occurring since his arrival at the Club. 

When asked about the McGuire deal why didn't JDT namedrop Broughton, if like you suggest it's Broughton's fault?

As for your last paragraph, ok we didn't quite have it like O'Brien and McGuire in previous windows but how many times did we have players in the building on deadline day only for the deals to never materialise.

I think your stance on Broughton is weird...fair enough you don't rate his recruitment I respect that but things like "on the owners gravy train" "he will be clinging on here forever" those statements are a load of nonsense to me.

Broughton was following his career path interviewing here ,he wasnt headhunted ,he actually wasn't even offered the job first someone else was.

Even on O'Brien as Dof he really shouldn't have to be standing over the person whose responsibility it was for the forms to be sent off on time and correctly.

He is not the problem here.

26 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's unbelievable that he survived the O Brien debacle. He should have been sacked then but wasn't and look where we are now as a result- twelve months on and something similar has happened again. In that respect the Club have got what they deserved for the lack of accountability.

He's DOF so this sort of stuff is his responsibility. People want it both ways, if Waggott does something awful everyone rightly wants to blame the owners  because it's their name over the door.

The opposite seems to apply with GB though  even though transfer business is firmly within his remit as DOF. Everyone scrambles to try to absolve him for responsibility for matters clearly within his remit.

His recruitment has been shite as well imo. (I know you disagree so let's not run through merits of individual players for the zillionth time.) Suffice to say I think we saw what JDT thought of it with only one of the six available signings starting the game on Saturday.

Not convinced he'll go this time anyway. He'll probably attempt to bull shit his way out of it and come up smelling of roses for a second time.

Say what you like but these O Brien and Mcguire type debacle have only started occurring since his arrival at the Club. 

When asked about the McGuire deal why didn't JDT namedrop Broughton, if like you suggest it's Broughton's fault?

As for your last paragraph, ok we didn't quite have it like O'Brien and McGuire in previous windows but how many times did we have players in the building on deadline day only for the deals to never materialise.

I think your stance on Broughton is weird...fair enough you don't rate his recruitment I respect that but things like "on the owners gravy train" "he will be clinging on here forever" those statements are a load of nonsense to me.

Broughton was following his career path interviewing here ,he wasnt headhunted ,he actually wasn't even offered the job first someone else was.

Even on O'Brien as Dof he really shouldn't have to be standing over the person whose responsibility it was for the forms to be sent off on time and correctly.

He is not the problem here.

6 minutes ago, M_B said:

What we need is someone who can get the best out of the players we've got, rather than sulking about what we haven't got,we just haven't got time for belly aching. 

If Tomasson is up for it then fair enough, get on with it, if not then get rid. I'd personally be giving Solsjaer a ring, see what he's up to, but contrary to popular belief, there would be a fair queue. Eustace does seem like a motivator, as does Rowett, but do they fit in with the "project"? 

A queue for Ole?Is that why he is still out of work 2 years after leaving united?

He did shit at Cardiff 

8 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Just screenshot it.

Just rewatched it a spoof video making fun of the McGuire fiasco 

7 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Just screenshot it.

It's a video of Greggs interview after last January window 

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Neither McFad nor Fleck are fit. I could not believe they were even on the bench

They both been on the bench for the club's they came from.

Not sure on fleck but McFad made every bench for Coventry.

Certainly understand why they wouldn't have started yesterday but absolutely no reason for them not being on the bench 

8 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

@Mike E you got the 2 patreon articles??

One is Gallaghers contract being renewed for next season 

The other is the club wanted compensation paying if JDT took another job if they accepted his resignation last summer 

Iv not read the articles tho just got a summary in a text message 

58 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Where have I said that? I was merely putting forward my point of view as to the likely culprit.

Why would the owners specifically sanction a loan deal for Mcguire only to order it be sabotaged less than 24 hours later?

In any event regardless of who sabotaged it or whether it was gross incompetence it's still ultimately their fault as they continue to employ these chancers and I doubt there'll be any accountability this time either.

Probably because one of the owners gave permission for money to be spent and then another one of them turned round and said no. 

I don't believe the club were making bids on Wednesday without prior agreement from the owners 

5 minutes ago, booth said:

And when he is, if it gets no better there can be no excuses from the usual places.

It's a shame it wasn't the summer he departed if he is to depart this week as the poor results and performances of the last couple of months has most of Facebook believing it's him thats the problem.

If he does go as I expect he will then I hope he goes onto good things and proves what I think he can be with a bit of support 

Eze and Olise will be massive losses for Palace if out for a long period 

Think Hodgson will be gone this week now 

After calling the owners out publicly and being as honest as he was in that interview the club will find his compensation this week.He will get sacked 

28 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Be an impressive accomplishment for our DOF if we go from 7th to relegation within 2 years of him taking up his post.

A dof who has been given a league one budget and has had the rug pulled from under him at least twice 

He was making bids for players on Wednesday now he would not have been doing that if he hadn't have some agreement beforehand

JDT didn't namecheck Broughton, I'm not even arguing about Broughton's ability, if you think he is shit fine  but he would only be replaced by similar or worse (like going back to when we couldn't get any of our players to sign new contracts)

Same with Waggott, we had Derek Shaw before him who next.

Owners out 

11 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Ah that makes more sense .... Like a player. Hadn't thought of that. I have more sympathy for JDT.

Even if they did come to a mutual understanding our lot would probably still seek compensation if appointed anywhere within the time frame of his contract here 

Calling out the owners usually only leads one way tho so can't see him being here much longer 

JDT can't walk away without the club's blessing even if he does it without a payoff

If he walks without the club agreeing they can place him on gardening leave and he wouldn't be able to take another job till the contract he signed here had ended 

6 minutes ago, Polky said:

Get Ennis on.

He came on at half time for stoke

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I think a solitary international call up sometimes does more heavy lifting than it should. The squad contained only US based players when he came off the bench.

Wahlstedt has a solitary cap and look at him.

Mind you, if we are comparing to Telalovic he would have to be bad.

I didn't realise that about it being only us based players to be fair ,JDT wanted an experienced player there and I think he put his foot down over Gallagher being sold

Really hope these JDT leaving rumours are nonsense 

17 minutes ago, alcd said:

From what I've seen McGuire doesn't look physical (or "nasty") despite being tall and well built. Can't see him bullying centre backs in the Championship - so a bit like Gally. Doesn't appear to have impressive ball skills, hold up play or incisive first time passing. Not surprising for someone playing college soccer rather than going through a youth academy or the rough and tumble of non-league football here.. I suspect he's no better - or even as good - as Telalovic. It's just as well he's only coming on loan so he can be binned at the end of the season.

He must have a little bit of ability to have received an international call up 

Will he even play anyway if only one up top and JDT is still manager he will start Gallagher 

If JDT goes this is up there with relegation from the premier league as one of the worst weeks since they took over 

Wharton and JDT in one week with no significant money spent on the squad only begs and borrows