Devon Rover

Agreed on ability and style of team that he'd need. In terms of selling or loaning him - I don't really care, to be honest. Either way, we aren't going to use the sale money and/or wage saving to invest in the team. The money we have received from other sales in the transfer window (and previously) primarily subsidises and mitigates Venkys' losses and inability (unwillingness) to invest. In my mind, the more money we bring in through player sales, the longer Venkys can drag out the destruction of Blackburn Rovers. If we have to get rid of Gueye for financial reasons then, on balance and outside of the window, I'd favour loaning him out and hoping he finds a semblance of form that enables him to contribute something more to our team on his return. Because we aren't likely to replace him with anything much better.

That's definitely one word. I was thinking of the words "the lazy part-time bastards".

Totally agree. It is easy for any of us to comment on what departed staff should do but, having been in a similar position before, it can impact on your self-confidence, health, and anxiety levels about future career opportunities (if you have years ahead still to work). In my situation, I became nervous, withdrawn, and just desperately keen to find a way to move on. Blowing a whistle, or engaging a lawyer, were the last things I, or my family needed me to do. For others, it might be exactly what is needed to move on, but I think it's important not to judge what someone should or shouldn't do - even if it seems like the logical/ required thing. The greater good doesn't always come into it when it is family, health and mortgage payments on the line. This is all desperately sad stuff, though, for all except those very senior at our club, Whilst they are here, it isn't my club.

I might have missed it but, "good enough" for what? Avoiding relegation, pootling around middle table, or pushing for playoffs/promotion? The lists of players considered good enough, or not, would, I assume, change based on the aspirations.

I've never known an organisation to be so keen to convince everyone of how hard they are "pushing" for things (acquisitions, contracts, etc, etc) to happen, whilst not actually delivering any of those things, then repeating the same thing, over and over. All whilst senior members of the organisation speak to the press about being "confused", or their standard working environment being "difficult" or "strange". Meanwhile their competitors just get on with actually making things happen. Bloody amateurs, the lot of them.

On field Balaji BJ.

But the players you list there, except Cantwell, are defenders. I don't think anyone would suggest it wasn't a good defensive performance (apart from the very, very poor errors in the last 10 mins or so). But in terms of attacking play, chance creation, and goals, we look a very poor team and it was another unimpressive performance, in that regard. That has to be a concern for everyone, as should three goals on target in two games. It isn't just a stat for which no monkeys should be flown. It is a basic, important, and meaningful indicator of where the team's definicies lie. Unfortunately it won't resonate with our owners so I guess it doesn't matter, but any supporter unconcerned about this major flaw in the team must be facing the pitch but not really seeing.

Yes, i think that is three shots on target in 200+ minutes of Championship football. It is nowhere near good enough, yet no surprise based on the transfer dealings of the club. There is little to defend here.

I'm talking about a recurrent habit of falling away and conceding defeat from the jaws of victory or useful points. It doesn't really matter what the pattern of play was, the result was the same.

I was thinking this, too. Going into the last 5 mins I felt sure City would have at least one big chance to get something from the game. And when it went to 1-1 with 10 extra minutes to play, I felt no confidence whatsoever that Rovers would strike back. There have been so many of our games that play out like this late in the match - and (virtually) never in our favour. That speaks not to refereeing, or 'luck', but to character, mindset, fitness, confidence, or all the above. The club has become overrun by losers and people who aren't good enough for whatever role they have, at all levels. We are a mess and I defy anyone to say administration and a fresh start would not be preferable to this horrific experience.

It just gets worse and worse. Leaving aside very poor refereeing decisions, this is the kind of throwing away we have seen from Rovers over and over in recent seasons. I'm sick of the whole club. I can't stand to watch. It's like being made to repeatedly watch cctv footage of your grandpa passing his trousers, tripping himself up, then getting mugged.

It is all pretty depressing and embarrassing, isn't it? I thought the club had reached the absolute nadir of lack of class and professionalism with the non-transfers back along. Then it got worse with the handling of the Eustace departure, followed now by our own manager touting out our first team players for sale in post-match interviews alongside, wholly unsurprising, suggestions of the occasional contract offer to a player being based on not even an inflationary pay-rise. We all really need to stop blaming Eustace, out of contract players, Hyam being apparently easy to upgrade on, referees, etc. Smell the coffee - there are no upgrades going on here, on Dolan, Hyam, Travis, anyone. There is no agenda against our club except in our own boardroom and in Pune. Just an accelerating stripping down of our playing squad towards wholly consisting of unprepared academy players and cheap cast-offs from the dwindling pool of "smaller" clubs. This ends in relegation, nothing else. This situation is getting worse and worse and I honestly don't see an end to it. But, for me, my pride in supporting this club is fading away. I just can't align myself with, nor fund in any way, this total shambles of an ownership and their utter lack of competence, respect and class. I'm trying to hold on to what remains of my love for Blackburn Rovers. But I'm struggling to see it, anymore. Venkys have taken it away for me and for my son.

One shot on target in 100 minutes. Kargbo only got a limited time, in which he caused panic, Miller should be straight in and get Hedges out. Reasons to feel optimistic: few and far between beyond getting the above into the line up, immediately.

Well, I hope Dolan does brilliantly over there and looks back fondly on his time at Rovers as being fundamental in his development. He probably needed to move on to push his career on as his development had probably stalled/was stalling. Was he ever a top class player for us? No, certainly not for any extended period. But have we been a top team packed with quality to bring out the very best in each player, over that same period? Of course not. Despite some of the things he did on the pitch that frustrated the hell out of me, he has consistently been, for several years, a grafter and someone who seemed to give his all for this club, including keeping himself fit, injury free, and willing to try things (whatever the outcome). I'd thank him for that if I saw him at Ewood some day in the future. My eight-year-old son is really upset by his departure as Tyrhys was his hero. Partly because of the energy he showed on the pitch whenever we went to watch Rovers, but also because he was so patient and kind with young Rovers fans, like my boy, when he met them. So I'll choose to remember the good parts, of which there were many more with Dolan than with the majority of those who have "represented" the blue and white halves over the last decade or so. I'm encouraging my son to do the same. And to wish Dolan well with his move, which he has earned with his efforts and his perseverance.

How absolutely awful. A huge tragedy for his family. Monumentally less important, but he was also a superb footballer. Whoever you are, whatever you achieve, it's all so fragile, isn't it? Very sad.

Loosest ever application of the word "prime", there!

Great bit of hyperbole, there!

I've mocked previous WATR statements but this one is pretty much spot on.

A club going into a transfer window with identified key targets and seemingly ready to make signings happen. What is this madness?

I would be delighted to upgrade from chickens to turki. It won't happen.

I agree. The WATR statements do come across as "meek" and somewhat like a jilted lover telling their friends about how their cruel and bullying ex doesn't talk to them anymore, whilst pleading with the same ex for better communication and respect in their 'relationship', rather than just calling out the ex for the insufferable shit they are. It feels a bit sad to read and definitely doesn't seem to carry any impact, whatsoever. But I might be missing it so I'm genuinely happy to hear what people think the statements are achieving.

It makes very little sense, at all. It feels to me like it can only be decisions taken out of spite, now. Certainly not the actions of anyone who cares at all about success, reputation, community etc

So, what was the outcome of the hearing??

Good. The headline on a couple of sites about this being about the owners refusing to fund is refreshing and encouraging. These are billionaires, with nothing stopping them from covering relatively small costs. If they can't or won't do that, they have no chance at all of keeping this business going eventually. I'm glad they are being shamed in this way and suspect it is our best chance of being rid of them. Obviously awful for all those caught in the crossfire though and make no mistake - this is all on the Raos.

I just made the mistake of reading some of the comments on the Facebook post. Is it just me, failing to see that this is an inevitable and sound business decision with only positive implications for the men's team? Im really sorry that I'm not quite getting it.