Well the title is "Venkys - Welcome or Unwelcome" and so naturally I assumed it was inviting a variety of commentary, obviously though I missed the fact that you hold the "utter bollocks" veto. I'd better run away with my tail between my legs now that you've spoken. Your opinion though is not my opinion so bollocks or not I'm going to state it. If you don't want the relationship to work then fair enough, I suggest you start a thread titled something along the lines of "Should we declare bankruptcy/liquidation", I'd be interested in the yes/no response. If we start from the premise that Venkys won't sell and are here to stay then my question to you is how do you make the best of that situation. Not making the best of a bad job hurts the club and personally I don't see that as being sensible. If you favour the nuclear option then fair enough I respect your opinion - though I think it's totally wrong headed. It helps us both that we don't know each other as I find your tone overly aggressive and I don't think we'd get along.

If Venkys won't sell then at some point we have to draw them into our passion for the club. Constantly saying "you're not welcome", "you're not in our gang", "you're corrupt", "come to Ewood and I'll give you a piece of my mind", etc., etc., isn't going to make them get what it is to be a real Rovers supporter. They need to turn up and experience reality rather than understand us only as a line item on their P&L. Nobody has enjoyed the last decade, I guess they haven't enjoyed pissing 200M up the wall but at some point I think all parties should draw a line under the nightmare and invite them to start with us again. Hopefully they'll be chasened by their experiences, dislike and avoid SEM and their like as much as we do and try to be become real fans like the rest of us. They'll learn nowt staying in Pune, get them over here, by em a few pints, watch a few matches, post a few comments on here, show them what it means to be real Rovers fans.

Really disgruntled by yesterday's performance so have waited 24 hours to be a little cooler and more reflective. As we knew way back our squad is too thin, not necessarily numbers wise, though I guess it is, but more experience wise and physical stature wise. A couple of injuries to key players and we're done. Great for the future these 'prospects' but in the here and now not so much. We need other attacking ideas than long diagonal balls from right back to BBD on the left wing. Travis I like but as evidenced yesterday he's not a right back, didn't play well there. We need to start completing some passes, right now we defend, play out, lose the ball defend again. We're earmarked to face the high press every week, its obviously the way to beat us. Sure it leaves space in behind but if you can't pass into that space (see above point) then you're going to have a bad time. I saw Hedges do his ankle in the warm up so personally I'd have played Vale. Hedges struggled which is a shame as I think he's becoming a real asset. Agree with comments about Wharton going into his shell after the booking (it was a soft one ref) but at that age you worry about letting the team down by being sent off I guess. Bristol play exactly like JDT says he wants us to play. In that case from what I saw we're miles off, yet we managed to squeeze 2 goals out the game, so go figure, some glimmer of hope I suppose. That game told me there's tons of growing and work to be done but I don't think we're relegation fodder but then again we don't have a snowballs of being in the top six. It will be fun watching the team develop but probably best to park any aspirations of great things this year.

Love this messageboard. Some really good well balanced commentary. Not much for me to add really, it's all been said but in summary: I think we are stronger now than at any point in recent times. Happy with the transfers/retentions, happy with the acquisition of JDT and team, happy with Broughton, happy with the new style of play. We're going to have fun this season, which I haven't been able to say that for a long long time. Even better I believe with each transfer window we will get stronger and stronger especially as we now have professionals in charge of recruitment and sports medicine. No promotion this year but it will be close. Buckle up for a fun ride.

But I've just heard a fat lady singing, oh wait a mo that was the missus. No, it's really done tho.

All done. No more ins, no more outs.

I share all your frustration, it should have turned out better than this. However if you think about it being in business is about making money not losing it. If they had a billion (1,000M) to start with they've already pissed 200M of that up the wall for no benefit. Looks like a pretty poor business decision so not too surprising they're pulling back a bit. Of course Venky's are culpable but for me the real villians in all this are still Anderson and SEM. Venky's punishment is that they've lost a fortune, our punishment is Venkys! Oh for a billionaire with sense.

Venky's are doing exactly what they said at the beginning when they bought us - loan players and an academy pipeline. This crap advice came from the same nefarious advisors who forgot to tell them that relegation was a real thing before sacking Big Sam. They're crazy buggers who know nowt about football, the club or the passion of it's supporters. They keep twyning the handle every year, money in and expecting success to drop out the back of the machine. For as long as they are in charge, as well intentioned or as decent human beings they may be, we will remain in this perpetual groundhog day. I believe in the current management team and DoF but with Crazy Horse Bala in charge nothing will ever change they just don't have it in them to learn. What this means for us is perpetual stasis. This message board will contain the same discussions every window, we will end up with new loanees and kids just as declared at the beginning as being the recipe for success. Dear Bala, IT ISN'T!!!! Bloody depressing.

Agree but it's not going to happen (unfortunately)

100%. I fear a bashing today, teams have worked out that our kryptonite is physicality.

I find this comment from JDT on the BBD saga most illuminating, not because it concerns BBD but because it highlights a necessity in the life of a football club. It is precisely what we didn't do last season. “We should always have done our homework for if something happens, we should be prepared,” he said. “I think we should expect that from the club that if it happens we need to have something prepared.” Amen. Precisely what we were screaming about last season. TM was known to be leaving. His backroom staff also. Three players believed to be key to our success leaving this year. I remember getting agitated that there were zero plans in place and we were all fuming that no succession had been planned for management or players. Yes we got lucky in a DoF and manager turning up out of nowhere. Yes we got lucky that JDT and team are brilliant and whipped the remaining squad into shape. We are currently lucking out results wise (long may it continue) but this whole episode could have been a well deserved disaster. We should have had plans in place, we should have had managers identified and we certainly should have had players lined up to come in. We still haven't got players (CBs) in with days to go before the window closes. Are we surprised? SW and board have got away with murder on this one. Poor performance and one set of lucky, lucky barstewards. Hopefully DoF and new chief scout/recruiter will consign these ridiculous things to the history books. We have to get more professional. The acid test is now how they handle the BBD situation. Hope they're up to it!

Don't Stop Believing' Journey.

West Brom were a good side, one touch give and goes, power, hard running, lots to admire. To beat them today, wow just WOW.

Scrape me off the ceiling!!!!@@

Rock and a hard place with this game. Lose and my win, win and win again bubble gets burst. Win it and I won't believe we will lose a game all season. Both silly points of view but I'm on such a high at the moment I don't want it to stop. WBA will be a TOUGH encounter so I'm a bit pessimistic, but win and you'll have to scrape me off the ceiling. Everything is crossed for a 2:1.

Wow, just wow. Echo all previous comments. The players were immense of course but for me this victory was all about the management team. Genius strategy, top draw execution. Enjoying it whilst it lasts.

Swansea targeting out of left field diagonal balls at our left back. Pretty consistent so obviously a tactic. Must have Pickering down as a weak point. We're letting Swansea have the ball up to the half way line then we're biting them. Solid two rows of 4 behind the ball. Look strong so far but it only takes one good through ball. BBD getting lumps kicked out of him. Need more of that intensity that JDT talks about in the 2nd half.

Not a snowballs chance in Hell will we get him back - unfortunately. A great player but we'll not see him in a Rovers shirt again.

It was a company car and Barry Fry repossessed it in a fit of peak when Szmodics said he wanted the Blackburn move. Dodgy character that Fry!

Was stood close to JDT at the match. He's got a temper. Got really angry and had a shouting match with his #2 who was disagreeing with him on something in the last 5 or 10 minutes. If Dacky and him locked horns in training then there's only one winner, I wouldn't argue with JDT. Dacky is likely being put in his place and being taught a lesson if he got too high and mighty in training. Once that's run it's course he'll be back in the team. Storm in a tea cup and normal player/coach dynamics. Just my interpretation of course. Time will tell. JDT does have a good flare up in him!

Do we actually win season openers?

Y'all know that saying Van Hecke three times won't make him appear. He's not Beetlejuice. Zero chance homies.

Not a hope he's coming back. Sad but true.

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, what have you done.

GB got the poison chalice. Desperate need for players. Tight owners. Glacial speed board. Players walking or about to walk. Not a ton of money available. Oh and the season starts week after next. He needs this pinning to his door "The difficult I do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer". Give the guy a break. If he can work his way though this mess then he can walk on water.