Surely more to do with the second half of the season collapse than the price - although that doesn't help. If hypothetically we'd beaten Bournemouth to clinch automatic promotion you'd imagine it'd be rammed out.

A selfie with Waggott........ Lol. Chaddy would probably pay - unless Steve then told him they were on the point of appointing Dyche.

I'm still waiting, but unfortunately Mowbray, Waggott, Cheston, Venus, Lowe Park and Benson haven't floated by just yet.........

Weird situation. That would tend to suggest either that they hadnt actually made a final decision on Mowbray's future and the devious old bastard caught them on the hop with his comments and they don't know what to do now, or that Waggott is going as well against his will and is sulking in a huff somewhere. The latter still wouldn't preclude the Club from putting out the usual generic statement thanking him/them for their service though. Did Miller say it was the end of season awards (Ha!) tonight? I hope anyone unfortunate enough to have forked out on a ticket for same does not let Waggott off the hook.

Not making it up. If you were to check back you'll notice I posted accordingly at the time.

Yet after four abysmal seasons under Mowbray you still claim to want to persist with him.

And Mowbray isn't even fit to lace Mackay's shoelaces.

I did hear positive whispers on that front immediately after he left Burnley but nothing since. Completely agree though we shouldn't really be looking beyond Farke or Dyche if the owners are really serious about changing things.

Heaven forbid. I've been of the view all season he'd be leaving at the end of his contract but given the circumstances of Mowbray's comments before the Bournemouth game, the longer we have radio silence from the Club the more worried I am that the first utterance from them on the subject will be Waggott saying it's all been a bit of a misunderstanding and they're still hopeful of persuading Tony to extend his stay. The champagne I put on ice in anticipation of official word on his departure is going rather warm.

That's what petrifies me. Is there a price for Mowbray on any of the lists?

Oooo.......Source war.

Absolutely. The next bad appointment could be the last one.

As you would say "sources"? Are you basing those names on any specific information or are you just plucking random names out of thin air off the betting lists? Edit: See you've replied to Miller. I wouldn't put too much store on what Nixon says.

Click bait. If you put enough of it out, some of it is bound to come to fruition.

Yep, well, if the next appointment bombs you'll be able to have your moment in the sun and tell us all (and me in particular) "I told you so".

I think it would be fairly risky to appoint Di Matteo given he hasn't managed since 2016. Yes QPR appear to have already made initial overtures to Manning. And we have done what? We haven't even got round to scrawling Tony's "Dear John" letter yet. Do we know next season starts early?

Like I said to Gav wouldn't be happy with the appointment (at all) but even so I doubt he could do much worse than Mowbray. You seem pretty quick to jump on this particular rumour but don't seem as keen to get excited about the Farke rumours or the fact that he is favourite in the betting......... Neither mean much at this stage of course.

I'm not doing or failing to do any job whatsoever for Venky's as you well know. Stop being mischievous. I wouldn't be happy with Cocu but he could hardly do any worse than Mowbray could he? "Here's £100 over the next 5 years, see if you can get us up to 11th"

O Rourke was completely wrong in January about Rothwell. Was talking absolute nonsense so I wouldn't expect the vague comment about Cocu being in the running to be any different. Can't be proved or disproved either way unless he's actually appointed.

In answer to the second paragraph, he's the one that makes the decisions on players coming in and out so he's the one responsible for paying Mulgrew £2m over 2 seasons to pay for Fleetwood, for paying the likes of Smallwood Hart and Gladwin not to play/or train with us, for giving Downing and Johnson new deals when they didn't warrant it, for giving numerous lucrative new deals to ageing or substastandard players such as Graham, Bennett and Evans etc. £5m for the useless Gallagher plus £20k p.w. and then an extended contract despite failing to impress. Another £20k p.w. for Ayala to generally sit in the treatment room. A Greek keeper who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth, 4 year deal for the useless Pears etc etc. But yes, you're absolutely right, it is the owners fault he has been allowed to carry on and on and on. It was obvious to me he wasn't up to it at this level relatively soon after our return to the Championship in Jan or Feb 2019.

If that did happen, it would be partly down to the state Mowbray has left us in anyway.

Spot on den. I pointed this out some years ago. All this talk of journeys and long term plans was to deflect away from the lack of obvious progress in the here and now and that we would all wake up some years later to find we were no better off than when we started. Well here we are. Mowbray has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes for long enough. Unbelievably some people still seem to be taken in by it all, worrying about what will happen when he leaves.

Haven't read through the accounts you posted but does the 2021 figure include the notional £16m cash injection for the transfer of the training ground? Without that losses for the 4 years would therefore have been £22.6, £21.9, £18.2 and £16.8 which is in line with what I've been saying. C £20m p.a.

The distinction between Mackay and Mowbray really couldn't be any starker though. One has burnt through £100m quid + of the owners money to get us absolutely nowhere and leave us with half a first X1 for next year. The other achieved far more on the pitch than the former did on I don't know, 1/50th of the budget? And then was moved aside because we had managed to land one of the greatest managers of all time. Don seemed to take it very badly at the time and seems to have harboured a simmering resentment about the way he was treated ever since. Nevertheless that's business and surely no-one can deny it was for the best. All the same he fully deserved the gratitude and recognition for his commendable performance on a financial shoestring. Mowbray?