So basically we've told them to get stuffed at the price they've come in at. Wouldn't call that "advanced" by any stretch of the imagination.

Pears, Ayala and Downing is three in one season, how many more do you want?

Plus our go to agency for players HSH (run by Craig Honeyman a former SEM guy) is based near Middlesbrough.

At least when this happened in Mike Bassett it was a joke. Ron Benson and Tony Hedges.

I suppose you could add Magloire and Carter into that but against that Wharton isn't available for a month or two, nor Dack for a much longer period.

Well, if they ever appointed a decent manager we might get the chance to put your theory to the test!

Someone please reply to Adam "It's slating not 'slayting'. " "yh?"

Holy crap. It's like we've gone into administration but no-one has bothered telling us yet.

Please don't let that put you off trying!

Trouble is, Mowbray isn't Howard Kendall. In fact that might just be the understatement of all time. He isn't even Don Mackay.

Aiming to be challenging for a top 6 spot after three season is hardly ambitious. You can be round about half way in the table and not without a chance of making a run at the play offs most of the season. If he'd said something like the aim is automatic promotion within 2-3 seasons then yes, that would have been an ambitious target but as others have said to the extent he has mentioned anything about the play offs, those words are belied by his actual actions and the conflicting narrative about "being on a journey" etc.

Great post which I agree with in principle. The problem is that the squad is now so thin that a few injuries will see us in real trouble. In an ideal world I think we'd need three decent experienced permanent heads to replace the six full time players who left and one or two quality youngsters on loan to replace the five outgoing loanees. Scrapping round at the last minute to do ALL our business on loan will take us nowhere but it seems to be the case that the owners have either voluntarily turned the taps off on Mowbray or there's no choice due to FFP and the gross mismanagement of the Club over the last 3 years by Waggott and Mowbray. Not only has Mowbray been allowed to pile players and loans on top of more players without ever keeping an eye on the FFP budget and offloading any dross or selling players to balance the books, they haven't prioritised our top assets either so there'll all probably end up walking out for free.

Which is great for the players involved, but no bloody good to us whatsoever. Also, would you say the respective stocks of Douglas, Trybull and Branthwaite rose as a result of their time here?

Is it not £39m over 3 seasons?

Wish they'd get a shift on, after various rumours I heard at the end of last season and again in the close season I bet my mate's son £20 that Mowbray wouldn't be here by the first day of the new season. Looks like I'll be paying out. On a more serious note of course it makes zero sense to wait and keep him and Waggott in situ all summer, put pressure on them by cutting off funding then sack them six games into the summer as that's putting this season in severe jeopardy. We'll see I suppose. The squad is now so weak I don't think they would be capable of pulling out a few results to save Mowbray's neck as they always seem to have managed to do in the past.

£75 k p.a. here or at Salford? If Salford, do you know what he was on here?

Now it's been made official, you'd better ask him yourself! At least some of the info I get pans our correctly. How the hell did the Coventrio manage to convince the owners that actually the problem was everyone else but them?!!!

Plus Category one Academy regulations require the facilities to be available for the youngsters exclusive use.

All this stuff about a split site is rubbish Neil I've yet to hear one legitimate example of how our facilities lag behind what is now considered to be state of the art. And please don't give me "all under one roof". That's rubbish unless the primary motivation is saving on running costs.

Think you're fishing a bit there Neil. Like you I was never in favour of and still am not in favour of chasing billionaire owners out of the Club. You can't deny though that when they took over we were a reasonably established Premiership side and after a decade of mismanagement we are now in a desperate state. Any comparison to the good old days is of course completely moot as well. Then we were completely skint, now said owners pump in £20 m p.a. to cover any losses and compensate for various cock ups.

I'm absolutely appalled by the comments of yourself and Neil John, but not surprised given your ambivalence when the previous scheme (scam) was being put forward. I can't believe you're still receptive to any replacement of Brockhall after Cheston (according to the minutes) had the nerve to sit in front of you and claim a new training centre could be financed when apparently we can't even afford to finance a new pitch! Have to say as well that as you and Neil and Mushy are in favour of moving the facilities as well as goodness knows who else on there, that is a very disproportionate and unrepresentative range of opinion for such a small group. It should be made plain to the Club that whilst those are your personal views they are not necessarilyrepresentative of those of the fanbase as a whole.

Why would we bring Trybull back? He was absolute garbage last season. That said, we do have form for signing people after disastrous loan spells, Luke Varney, DJ Campbell and more recently in the case of Gallagher an indifferent one.

Thought it was the same person that I knew from the Forum.

Hi Neil? Hope you're well. It's not the Club's job to rejuvenate the town and community by needlessly moving what are essentially private facilities to an inferior location just to suit some in the town hall "Bring it back home?" It's only about 2-3 miles outside the boundary of BWD. You make it sound like it's in Manchester or something. What an insult to Jack Walker.

On the embargo thing, if you're paying someone 300k p.a. to run the Club (Waggott) surely it's not too much to expect to expect them to comply with EFL regulations and submit any accounts or paperwork in timely fashion so as to avoid an embargo? Agree entirely it's the owners fault Waggott and Mowbray are still here.