RevidgeBlue

Been saying it for the last 18 months so might as well reiterate it once more, we'll never get anywhere with Mowbray in charge. That will never change even allowing for the occasional glimmer of hope created by the odd good result which even I was gullible enough to temporarily fall for after the Bristol City game.

Managers tend to have a very inflated sense of their own ability and there would surely be some up and coming talents either here or abroad who'd relish the chance to come here. The problem is, he got Waggott his job and the admiration is reciprocal, Waggott seems to think we have Pep Guardiola in charge so you're right, he probably is bombproof. We need Roy Keane as Director of Football for 12 -18 months.

Have to disagree. The more I've seen of it after the game the worse it gets. Brereton was annoyed because he'd been fouled by another player and just went over and took a swipe at the guy on the ball in frustration. No attempt to play the ball at all. I can't see much distinction between that and him just kicking another player with the ball out of play. Violent conduct and I'd be very surprised if it was overturned.

Be interesting to see if it he defends BB to the hilt or not. In the past if someone like Bennett had done it it would have been the worst decision in the world from the referee whereas if Travis or Buckley had done it they're young players who need to learn etc.....

Yes. I've been really impressed with the quality of the picture on the I follow stream but I will struggle listen to those to trying to put a shiny gloss on the indefensible in future games. Might be the mute button from now on.

That's it in a nutshell.

The worst thing about tonight is that it gives Mowbray the excuse to hide behind the sending off.

Don't think Brereton has any defence whatsoever. He just took a swipe at the bloke and had no chance whatsoever of getting the ball. Sometimes it would be a yellow but I dont think you can complain at all about getting a red. It's completely unnecessary and not worth the risk.

So his solution? Start with no-one down the middle! Edit: Brereton very stupid there, despite the reaction from the Rovers commentating team.

Armstrong off? Seen it all now.

Spot on as well. It's an easy game he tries to massively over complicate.

100%.

Better in terms of overall play, but playing this weird formation I don't think we look as if we could score if we played until this time next week. The two Rovers commentators seem to think we're playing like Liverpool.

Promising move, ball gets to Bennett and everything breaks down. Couple of better balls from Holtby. Samuel's terrible.

Unfortunately my I follow stream is perfect. They look a yard quicker than us at the moment. And on the rare occasion when we do get the ball we're heading down either flank with no-one to cross to in the middle. Another Mowbray tactical master class.

Why is Johnson starting ahead of Davenport as well?

He contracted it before Bennett didn't he?

He didn't play Armstrong the last two games........

Pretty typical of Mowbray. Bennett and Walton wouldn't get dropped if they wiped Mowbray's family out at gunpoint. Brereton couldn't get a run of games if he prevented Bennett and Walton from wiping out Mowbray's family at gunpoint. At least Armstrong is back in but what has Samuel done to deserve the nod? It's obviously his turn to be useless on the right wing instead of Gallagher. It's going to be "interesting" (as in scary) to see how Mulgrew does as well. Not looking good.

Absolutely spot on, with the slight difference that although I don't think we will make the play offs whilst we are mathematically still in with a chance we are duty bound to do anything we can to try and keep in the race and that means firing off Walton, Gallagher and Gallagher from the starting eleven immediately. If that means bringing in youngsters so be it. It's not a case that the pragmatic solution is keep playing these proven failures until we are mathematically out of the equation and only then risk youngsters. It's the other way round. We need to make changes in the hope they can keep us mathematically in the hunt as opposed to doing nothing and letting the same old suspects knock us out of it.

Spot on. Mowbray doesn't know he's born when you consider the sort of wheeling and dealing Ken Furphy had to do to turn us round. The difference between the likes of Lee and Furphy and Mowbray though is that they recognised what needed to be done in terms of changing personnel to try and make us successful. There'd be no standing on ceremony being loyal to players who might have been good servants in the past or dishing out new contracts like sweeties to players who'd not really done anything to warrant it in the first place. Said players were packed off and replaced by someone Furphy or Lee thought could do a better job.

If we're being realistic I'm not sure how viable it would have been to replace Dack in January. How do you find someone of comparable quality on a permanent basis on a budget and how many Clubs would be prepared to let anyone of similar quality go out on loan? Theoretically we had Holtby on the books who could maybe replace some of Dack's creativity if not the goals. I've been really disappointed with his input since the return, I've no idea where he's meant to be playing and to me it looks like Mowbray has knocked all the fire and enthusiasm he had when he arrived out of him.

Why would anyone agree to anything other than an extra month on the same terms as before? It wouldn't really be worth their while to hang around otherwise and certainly not on a pay as you play basis, you'd be coming in and training and making yourself available for free basically.

Since we were relegated from the Prem we've never once really looked like seriously challenging for the play off positions from the Championship and to date every time we have got anywhere near under either Bowyer or Mowbray we have bottled it which is a pretty damning state of affairs. People may not agree but I think there has been a culture of doing the bare minimum at the Club ever since Allardyce was here. Prioritising certain games and not bothering so much about others worked for him because the narrative at the majority of the Clubs he's worked at has been accumulating a minimum number of points to ensure survival. But that sort of mentality is no good if you're in a lower division and looking to achieve anything. I think there's a holiday camp feel around the Club and has been for many years.The feeling is never stronger than at transfer window time when the manager clearly has no particular inclination to try and improve the starting eleven or dislodge any of his favourites. I don't think anything will change until a manager comes in who expects and demands success and this is combined with workable support from the owners which to be fair Mowbray has had but largely squandered.

Sorry, I meant Hilton after someone endorsed him. I haven't seen either Walton or Fisher but I made the point last night immediately after the game that surely we must have a young lad on the books that could do better than Walton and I stand by that. As to who is the better between Hilton and Fisher I'll defer to those that have seen them.