jim mk2

Middlesbrough have far too much quality for us. Plus our international players will be knackered. Rovers 1 Boro 2

Is that the first time we are in agreement? Strange days indeed.

No it is not. Mr Bigley's killing was appalling, barbaric etc etc and devastating for his family but a "tragedy" (a much overused word), certainly a national one, is a cataclysmic event, such as Aberfan in 1966, when 144 people, most of them children, were buried under a falling slag heap. Mourning Mr Bigley at an international football match was inappropriate in my view.

Eriksson will never drop Beckham, although perhaps the player deserves to be. Beckham is getting a fair amount of stick in the papers (despite his brilliant goal) for his kamikaze performance in the second half. It is being suggested that he got himself deliberately booked (therefore missing the next game) because he did not fancy the trip to Azerbaijan (sp?) and it is not the first time that he has pulled off such a trick. Andrew Cole never played for Eriksson again after picking up a suspension and Alan Smith was left out of the squad for a year after being sent off and banned. Beckham is likely to receive more lenient traetment however. Any euphoria over England's performance should be tempered by the fact that Wales were pretty awful.

Give it a rest. Your cricket crowds are the only ones in the world that boo the opposition (especially England). Nowhere else in the world (not even in roughneck South Africa) does this happen. One or two thoughts on the England v Wales match: 1. Those who decided that an international football match is an appropriate place to mourn Ken Bigley made a serious error of judgment. What happened to Mr Bigley was appalling, but his death was not a national tragedy. Prayers for Mr Bigley and his family in church on Sunday morning, yes, but a football match, definitely not. 2. There was much talk before the game of reviving the Home International Championship. The reaction of the neanderthal England and Wales fans who booed the respective national anthems of both countries, their general behaviour throughout the game plus the disrespect shown to Mr Bigley, showed why it should NEVER be revived. 3. Wayne Rooney has reaffirmed my faith in football. To see such a brilliant talent in an England shirt makes my old heart leap with joy.

Surprised no one has mentioned that yesterday (Oct 9) would have been John Lennon's 64th birthday. Birthday greetings and a bottle of wine to him.

Souness's erstwhile side-kick Andrew Cole has had his ban extended from three to six matches by the FA today. COLE BAN ADDS TO FULHAM WOES By Alex Lowe, PA Sport Fulham’s season was plunged into further crisis today when the Football Association found Andrew Cole guilty of two charges of bringing the game into disrepute and doubled his suspension from three to six matches. Cole, one of two Fulham players sent off in last month’s fiery Barclays Premiership clash with West Brom, was dismissed for throwing punches, including one attempted haymaker, following a clash with Baggies midfielder Neil Clement. The former England striker has already served a three-match suspension but attended a disciplinary hearing held at the FA’s headquarters at Soho Square today and was found guilty of using abusive language to a match official and violent conduct. For the abusive language Cole was given an extra two-match suspension, to start immediately, while the violent conduct carried a one-game ban. He was also slapped with a £10,000 fine, plus costs. Fulham were tonight making no comment on the penalty, though its severity has alerted the Professional Footballers’ Association who were to make further enquiries before giving any reaction. Cole, who was fined by the club for his dismissal, will now miss the crucial league fixtures against Liverpool and Aston Villa plus the Carling Cup tie at Birmingham as Fulham attempt to turn around their season. They have secured just two victories and four defeats from their eight Premiership matches. On Monday night, without Cole, Fulham became the first Premiership side to lose to Crystal Palace this season and had Ian Pearce sent off in the process. Pearce became the fourth Fulham player to be dismissed in four matches, following the red cards shown to Cole and Papa Bouba Diop at The Hawthorns and Liam Rosenior in the Carling Cup win over Boston. Manager Chris Coleman, facing a disciplinary charge himself for comments made after Fulham were beaten in controversial circumstances by Arsenal, now has the international break to ensure Fulham’s fraying edges do not unravel entirely.

MIDDLESBROUGH, not Middlesborough. Rewrite 100 times until you get it right.

I've always wondered whether Whelan would get involved in Rovers but, as a confirmed Wiganer, I think his dream is to see his home-town team playing in the Premiership. Whether the Wigan public share his vision is another matter: a crowd of 7,000 watched the league leaders play at the JJB Stadium last Saturday.

West Brom on Saturday; Palace on Monday. The teams below us are starting to win matches. Help!

For argument's sake, assume that Rovers, Preston and Burnley each have a base support of 15,000 each and that the three clubs were merged into one. Is the new club going to attract 40,000 plus fans for every home game? I think not. Twenty years ago, London had two evening newspapers, the Evening Standard and the Evening News, each selling about 400,000 copes a night. The Standard took over the News, leading to its circulation rising to about 750,000 before settling back to around the 400,000 mark. The net result was 400,000 lost newspaper sales and the loss of more than 1 million readers. The same would happen in an East Lancs football merger: lost fans, three lost historic clubs and a new club that no one wants.

Football fans are tribal with allegiances going back generations. If Burnley and Rovers were merged, would you go and watch East Lancashire United? I wouldn't. In the 1980s, Robert Maxwell proposed merging Reading and Oxford to form Thames Valley Royals but fans quite rightly gave his plan the boot. He also tried it with Hibs and Hearts and they did likewise Jim. The common denominator of all this is that none of em have won a bean since! In fact Reading would prob be history but for the false input of Madjeski. Careful what you're saying. We had a benefactor by the name of J Walker. Was his false input? I wouldn't imagine Oxford and Reading fans are bothered about winning anything so long as they continue as separate entitities. Inter-town rivalry is what makes football in this country so special; merging teams into big "regional" clubs would not work.

Can we get it straight - is the team 4-4-2 or 3-5-2? I cannot believe that those magnificent club stalwarts, Derek Fazackerley and Matt Woods, have just one vote between them.

Football fans are tribal with allegiances going back generations. If Burnley and Rovers were merged, would you go and watch East Lancashire United? I wouldn't. In the 1980s, Robert Maxwell proposed merging Reading and Oxford to form Thames Valley Royals but fans quite rightly gave his plan the boot. And just because two clubs are merged into one would not guarantee bigger crowds. The likelihood is that crowds would be about the same. Definitely a case of 1 + 1 = 1. Rovers fans are out there - as proved by attendance figures in the mid-late 1990s. The task for the club is to find out why they are not coming anymore and to entice them back.

The defence is perceived as a problem and that we need reinforcements urgently, yet we already have NINE defenders - Short, Matteo, Amoruso, Johansson, Todd, McEveley, Neill, Gresko and Gray - on the books. Are those players not good enough or are they not being coached properly?

That's because Mike England never game him a kick. I see Hendry is ahead of England in the voting: look like the Rovers all-star team is going to have a headless chicken with blocks of concrete in his boots rather than a world class centre half.

Nice posts by mick and billy in support of Mike England but whistling in the wind I'm afraid. Hendry will win by default, not because he was the best centre half.

Is that an exclusive? I'll telephone my contacts on the nationals now. How big do you want your byline: 30pt or 42pt?

You can never tell with young players if they are going to last the course: look at Michael Owen, a world beater at 18 but whose star has now fallen; look at Norman Whiteside, another teenage prodigy whose career was ended by injury at the age of 25. Tommy Docherty sold George Best at 26 because he wasn't good enough to play top flight football any more. Shearer is still banging in the goals at 34. The chances are Rooney won't be doing the same but it'll be fun watching him in the meantime. I just hope he is fit for the next World Cup. England's best players always seem to be injured for the major tournaments.

Rooney is a different player to Shearer. His physique, the way he goes past defenders and smashes the ball into the net from distance reminds me of a young Francis Lee.

Bravo Mr den! I'm afraid you're whistling in the wind, however. I said the same of Keith Newton but the great unwashed just aren't interested. Hendry will be chosen and you needn't bother with voting for right half and right winger either because Sherwood and Ripley are certain to get the nod over Clayton and Douglas.

Shouldn't have to. If you knew your Rovers history (ie, extracted your digit from your rectum, bought a book and sat down and read it), you would know how good they were. The question is, are we voting for the best all-time team, or the all-time team containing the best players? If it is the former, you might as well vote en bloc for the 1995 championship-winning side, or for those with longer memories, the team that dominated English football before the turn of the 20th century. If it the latter, then I would suggest that only Alan Shearer from the modern era is a worthy of a place in the team. Friedel I can accept (reluctantly), but the choice of Le Saux is laughable.

Yes, you've got that one by the scruff of the neck Brownie. No discussion needed. Maybe it should read "Who were the second & third best centre backs?" I'd go for Kevin Moran. .. and there speaks someone who has never seen Mike England play. Hendry will win because the pimple-faced oiks on here can only see as far as the end of their nose. Those who have been watching Rovers down the years know better though. Welshman England is the best Rovers centre half I have seen.

John Connelly, a member of England's World Cup-winning squad in 1966, joined Rovers from ManU in 1968 (I think).

Good move by Hughes who has been quick to recognise the lack of quality in the squad. Djorkaeff is a class player - even at 36 - and we don't have too many of those (none, in fact). He says he wants to play for another two years, so hopefully he'll be bursting to make an impact, which can only to be our benefit.