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The main reason he has played so much has been our repeated inability to sign competent wide players. It would be a huge risk to suddenly convert him and defending in front of someone is not the same as being a full back.

Why was he more productive last season than ever before?

Ok, so he actively didnt want to be successful.

They all want to do well, that success will lead to bigger future pay cheques.

Clearly not true.

Every manager and player is here solely for the pay cheque to be fair.

Montgomery started one game there. He got sent off. Duru played one minute and injury time.

Sorry, wrong poster!

He was brilliant last season. A huge outlet going forward and improved loads defensively. Lets not underplay his ability just because hes going. Not to be replaced by a kid who has had injury problems and has barely played.

With 2 years left on his deal? Thats a long time to be on peanuts unless the deal he was offered was not much more. Your figures are obviously totally hypothetical but do you think any other wide player in the division who plays every week is on £6k? I suspect very few if any.

Have we moved on? We are all still talking about it. And the club still has a massive hole in the position where he played. Yes, I am sure he, like Brittain, Tronstad, Travis all are just being individually unrealistically greedy.

Ismael paving the way for Travis and Tronstad to leave. His demeanour in the BBC Lancashire clip seemed frosty but hard to tell if hes already getting pissed off as he seems to just be like that all the time. People will jump to the defence of the club by saying we moan when we let players run their contracts down and moan when we sell. To me, the issue wouldnt be selling them. Its again, how has it got to this? Why werent contracts offered earlier? Why do so many people want to go elsewhere?

Dolan always had it in mind to leave even 2 years ago. This helpless narrative is exactly what the club will be wanting spread. I suspect it was a case of the offer not befitting what he felt a player with a number of years of Championship experience should be getting. Im not having that he decided unconditionally to run down a deal with 2 years left on the tiny contract he would have signed not longer after joining.

Ben Doak is being linked with £15m moves to Premier League clubs and Ramsey has had poor loan spells across Lancashire, 2 in League 1.

Sign a centre back, right back, right winger, attacking midfielder and striker. Maybe a second centre back as Carter is made of glass and Wharton has been out for yonks. The first 3 in particular need to be for the first 11. The first 3 or 4 in particular should be permanent additions. Maybe even an additional attacking player on top of that on loan. And not just all punts from relegated teams in lesser foreign leagues. At least 2 or 3 should be domestic, we are losing a lot of experience. And im not talking token crap like Adam Forshaw. Sort the contract situation of Travis, Tronstad and Hyam. Start by offering bloody contracts in the first place, although it might be too late. Travis is the one age wise where youd get a decent fee so youd probably have to sell, his replacement would need to be of the necessary quality to come straight in from day 1. And we would need leadership. We need more leadership, we need more speed, we need more goals and we need someone who can take a proper set piece. So not much.

Hull cant sign anyone beside frees and loans so might be even weaker.

I think Sheffield Wednesday barring a serious influx of cash from this potential takeover and Hull may also struggle.

Who is saying that?

So you think Dolan either has no offers or at least no offers that match the megabucks that we offered? Like I said, maybe I will be proved wrong and he will end up in League 1 on a short term deal. Then your Nyambe comparison will be correct.

Is it after this week when we fly away for a week to Spain? In which case, assuming we dont sign anyone this week, we probably wont when away so then you are in the territory of any signings not being up to speed in order to start the season. So a big week ahead. Notice how we still havent even organised a friendly for the week before the season.

We supposedly needed a cover right back and this new lad was billed as that. Nominal fee, one to develop. So if we cant pay a fee for another one having sold Brittain then theres something up.

Im not pinning it on Carter. I am saying that the opinion people hold of them isnt representative of their performances. Both are good Championship defenders on their day and did well together in the 2022/23 season when together. But in the last 2 seasons, Carter has had 0 good seasons, punctuated by injury, Hyam has had one. They were both poor in the season we nearly went down. Hyam doing well last season doesnt seem to have regained any confidence or favour in many fans eyes though and he hasnt had much credit for it. In fact, it seems to have strengthened the view that he is dispensable. Yes I agree he was poor that season. Everyone was bar Smzodics really. Hence why I said he was very good in 2 and poor in the middle one.

Hes not inconsistent, he has had 2 full seasons of consistent performances. I dont get how when Carter comes in, who is hardly a youngster himself now, and performs poorly coinciding with an overall poorer defence, he gets no criticism and it all goes to Hyam for not leading him through it. He has done well with Batth, well with Ayala, well with Wharton, well in a back 4, well in a back 3, but has been worse when Carter who himself hasnt played well in the last 2 years has come in. Makes no sense to pin all that on Hyam.

But hes played in a 4 for most of the time here. As I have said, he probably does benefit from a more experienced player. Im sure all centre backs would. Its just the narrative has escalated to the point where he is totally incompetent without one. He did well with Carter for half of that season in a back 4 when Carter was on form. His dips in form seem to have come since when next to Carter who has struggled both to stay fit and when he has played to perform for 2 years, but for some reason, no one questions Carter.

Young player of the season is often a different ball game. Often given to someone who has just broken through and might have barely played.