It makes no sense to move away because our best player is a number 10, ie Dack. Graham or no Graham, you cant be playing your best player out of position. Hes tried and struggled in the false 9 role just as Holtby did. He is never a central midfielder in a million years, he is a goalscorer. Holtby is also important and again is a number 10. As is Buckley.

Ha, the Norfolk chaddy! Do you agree with the attitude of the manager and Webber to actively admit in advance that survival was never really on the agenda? To tell the players they have less than a 5% chance? Is that necessary? Is it bollocks. Even baring in mind the idiocy of not being able to grasp that moderate spending wouldnt cripple a club riding the crest of an unexpected promotion, would help even if relegation was suffered (good players either to help them get back up or be sold) and potentialy would give them a chance at survival which financially would be the best solution of all.

Good to see that football fans are not endorsing such a bizarre outlook on promotion! And that chaddy is very much a lone wolf as the echo chamber of the Norwich boardroom for whatever reason, without critique or even any lateral thought. A positive attitude and moderate strengthening and they might have stayed up, would that have been unwelcome?!

My comments are more about football in general. How you can endorse this sort of thinking is beyond me. I have no interest in watching the interview, I know for a fact that there was no need to take the ATTITUDE that theyve taken in the MANNER theyve accepted it. It goes against everything football should be, its disgusting and if Rovers did it in the same way id be really outraged by it. If their fans have accepted not even necessarily the pitiful budget, the lack of ambition and fight, the attitude of the managee towards the players and the embracing of the relegation then they are as bad as you and have clearly been brainwashed. They could have still done all of those improvements. Even without money the manager could have at least been more ambitious, and not told his players they basically have no chance. This Webber guy could have prudently expected relegation but hoped for survival. And beyond that, a few playing improvements made modestly and sensibly could have helped them give it a real go or worse case scenario, have added assets for the promotion push next year or even be sold on had it come to that.

No, the way that they have acted is totally unnecessary, totally against the spirit of the game and spitting in the faces of their supporters. I include the manager in that.

Theres not "spending much" and theres accepting relegation before youve kicked a ball, spending less than many Championship clubs with your manager telling the team before the season that they have at best 5% chance and comparing it to "men against boys!"

Put it this way chaddy. Our play off chances have always been remote this season. Hasnt stopped me at numerous times this season, checking the table, looking at fixtures etc, having that hope that the unlikely will happen. Whats the point if you take away that hope, even if it is a difficult task?

Exactly this. And as a fan, I dont get how any fan could go up and just accept the fact that the club has just accepted relegation before a ball has been kicked. Whats the point? To be honest, even from a business view point, I dont see how spending a sensible amount, not breaking the wage budget, ie a small chunk of that massive and unexpected windfall they have received, is risky considering that could help a talented but inexperienced core of players and give them a chance. If they could stay up, thats win win obviously, if they dont, theyve just got additional assets either to sell or indeed help them get back up. I am unconvinced that they will bounce back. And even assuming that wasnt possible. Should the manager have such a defeatist attitude even beforehand, and should the CEO? By all means play the underdog but they hadnt even considered that there was a chance of staying up from the sound of things. All very sad.

The thing is all teams are picking up additional injuries. The increased demand on the back of the big break IS statistically a problem for all and rotating at times can Also, tactically Rothwell scored so should push for a start. Holtby also is pushing for one. Graham and Samuel were ineffective at the weekend. Davenport and Gallagher might fancy a start after Saturday too. Its not just being soft.

Admiring them for their naivety though surely? I get prudence but its a small portion of their additional bonus revenue that they could invest into further assets on the playing side who at best could help them stay up and generate untold wealth, at worst can either be sold on upon relegation or help them return. Spending excessively on fees and wages is a dismal strategy. Spending absolutely nothing and accepting relegation before youve started is equally idiotic.

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Personal wealth is irrelevant. Theyve got an unexpected massive windfall. Im suggesting spending a fraction of that on playing reinforcements, not a mad spending spree. You keep going on about risking the financial future of the club. It doesnt make sense considering what I am suggesting. Plus worst case scenario, they spend 20m and still go down. They have additional assets and are still massively in profit and in better shape on the playing side to come back up. You wouldnt be happy if we spent absolutely nothing, and Mowbray said we never expected to survive and it was men v boys. Relegation is not the issue. The manner and the attitude is.

There are a few flaws into just going along blindly without any critical faculty of your own: - Promotion is worth 90/100m is it, something like that. And it was unexpected. I refuse to accept that spending a small fraction of that amount would jeopardise the future of the club. Thats a load of bollocks. - That also assumes that the money spent is never to be seen again. I am advocating spending money sensibly on improving the club, not smashing the wage structure, signing players with resale value or ones who wouldnt burden the club should they go down. Adding additional quality and maybe one or two more experienced heads may have cost a small chunk of that unexpected windfall, but could have greatly improved their survival chances, and prudently should they still go down, they would have more assets which they could balance selling on and keeping to come back up accordingly. - Also their existing assets might now want to leave after seeing their club meekly accept relegation and with the taste of Premier League football. Their best chance of Premier League football the year after next might have been to stay up this season. - Survival would have been the best possible outcome. With their attitude that became a nil chance. If the possibility had been embraced, there would be another 90/100m to follow. Its not impossible to come up and stabilise. - Say that we accept the notion that less than 1 million is spent and they really cant afford even to spend the sort of budget weve had in the last 2 years. Should the manager also be basically saying that his team are miles inferior and not seeming that bothered about relegation? It interviewed Tettey and he didnt seem to be as apathetic to the situation. - Say all of this theory is true. How depressing is that. Would you be happy if we went up, and came back down having accepted relegation before kicking a ball?

So Mowbray clearly encourages him to get forward if he spends so much time near the opposition box?

Their assets on the pitch will now be prematurely poached from the look of it. I totally get prudence and not spending loads like Fulham did, like Villa have. But why is the only alternative to that not spending at all and accepting relegation before it happens? Surely there is a middle ground.

No and im not interested enough to watch it. I stand by my comments that it makes no sense to accept relegation and come out with quotes like it was men against boys and that it was almost certain from the beginning. You relish and cherish the promotion and the prize it brings. Theres a happy middle ground between over spending and not spending at all and giving up before youve started. It can be low spending compared to the prize, 10-20m say just to help out the team from last year. That money could be spent in a calculated way and potentially recouped or even profited on even if they did go down. If I was a Norwich fan I would be annoyed not that theyve gone down but that manager and chairman alike accepted it before it happened. We spent more than them last summer. But its something youve grafted for to become one of the top 7 teams in tnlhe country. Even if it does jeapordise your league season slightly, its worth it because of the memories. All of these European away days would be great memories and experiences that might never come round again and you cant sacrifice them in order to try and replicate that league season otherwise you are going round in circles. Absolutely bang on regarding that last comment. We finished 6th twice and 7th in the Premier League post 2001 but the most memorable season is the one we won a cup in. Football is about memories like that. I remember when Wigan won the cup and went down and it created a media driven question, would you rather win the cup or stay up? (Obviously they arent mutually exclusive so its a flawed question anyway) Id take winning the cup every day of the week.

You predict this every window although this window may have the closest of being right. Still scaremongering mind you.

Were Gallagher and Brereton particularly good players when we signed them? I would suggest not. Not saying that Mowbray should have ever played them wide but I don't think they could go somewhere else and tear it up.

Is he? He has never been a good attacking right back in terms of final delivery, even when he was brimming full of confidence earlier in the season his final ball was never particularly threatening. He is a good full back with plenty of promise but his strengths lie defensively at this moment. The assist v Swansea was his first since we returned to the Championship. I cant really remember the good cross from Saturday but may be getting forgetful, when was it? Mowbray just doesn't want him running at players and getting the ball into the box" was just a bizarre and unfounded comment and totally unfair.

You've again as you tend to gone off on a random tangent. There are not two options, either massively overspend in a haphazard manner, or accept relegation before kicking a ball. There is a happy medium in between. Obviously their strategy to get promoted worked, but be bloody competitive once you get there, dont write yourself off before a ball is kicked. There are some poor teams near the bottom of the Premier League. Firstly, you are taking the whole spirit out of the game if you are working so hard to get promoted and not even giving everything to try and stay there. What is the point? Same with Burnley, they qualified for Europe after really grafting all season, a once in a generation opportunity, they played weakened teams and got knocked out in the qualifiers. Why did Burnley bother qualifying for Europe and why did Norwich bother even getting promoted if the prize was almost an inconvenience? As a fan, both approaches would have had me absolutely fuming. Totally understand being prudent, totally understand not spending wildly and desperately like teams have in years gone by. But to spend absolutely bugger all, not even calculated and clever additions, maybe a bit of experience and knowhow to help the kids they have in defence, even if they spent 10, 15, 20 million, a fraction of what they earn, improve the squad, try and stay up, totally against the spirit of the game and also any logic to just accept defeat before youve kicked a ball. Make no mistake, the best solution was to be if they gave it a go and managed to stay up, that can be done and trumps being a yo yo club. Regarding the players I mentioned, you would think that a team for which half of the players are apparently going to be signed up by Premier League clubs, that they could have been a bit more competitive.

Even if the logic was there regarding essentially chucking a season, which I question, it is difficult to stomach any team writing off something they spent a season grafting to earn a place in as easily as that.

I think this is nonsense and seeing what you want to see. And I have been critical of Mowbray recently. When has he ever put in good crosses? I can only think of the one v Swansea, ironically which came when he was playing at centre back. Since he broke through he has always seemed reluctant to run forward, always one for a sideways/backwards pass when he gets so far up the pitch. Dangerous crosses from him are always clearly reluctant ones and are few and far between. Im not saying hes a poor full back, hes an important player for us and he is improving but hes better defensively rather than attacking. Mowbray seems to encourage his full backs to push forward but although Nyambe is the most effective, none really offer the consistent attacking threat we need from that area at this time.

I find the criticism of Bamford really excessive from the outside. He has a very competitive goal record, and whenever I see Leeds, he leads the line well, he works hard, he makes clever runs and he walks into the vast, vast majority of clubs in the division, barring Fulham and maybe at a push Forest. I get that he misses his chances but he scores goals too. The job Bielsa has done is remarkable and fair play to Leeds for thinking outside the box and getting such a big name from abroad. I recall a lot of people dismissing him when he came and of course he needs paying well but when we have paid 12m in the last 2 years on strikers who have contributed about 5 goals combined, and the manager is the most important person, Bielsa will now be seen as a bargain.

I always find that the benchmark on "how not to deal with promotion" is the Fulham example where they spent 100m, wasted it and came back down. Ultimately there is a happy medium between the 2 approaches. The main issue is Farke's attitude as he had basically written the season off before it started, saying there was a 95% chance of relegation and compared it to men v boys. There is no point being promoted and having that attitude, I dont like it similar to when teams dismiss cup hopes or when teams give their all to get a place in the Europa League then (like Burnley for example) basically treat it as an unwanted distraction, even though it is a once in a generation chance and youve worked so hard to get there. By all means be prudent, dont overspend but strengthen the team with some calculated and shrewd additions who arent total gambles and who if worst case scenario would stand out if you do get relegated. A lot of their players, Cantwell, Aarons, Buendia, Lewis and Godfrey seem to be attracting vultures but I am not sure which if any are Premier League players.