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Them 2 being our first 2 choices is like being presented with which bollock youd like to be kicked in!

I am also not into believing all the conspiracies about our owners only allowing the manager to spend on certain positions or forcing him to play certain players. I judge Mowbrays transfer business at face value, which in the main has been dismal. Also, whether Mowbray rates Buckley or not, I can see with my own eyes that he is nowhere near being Championship ready.

I never said this window, I said in general our squad is lacking in all of them areas. So you would surely agree that this Schmidt would be, if rumours are to be believed which at the moment I have no real reason to expect they necesarily are, would be a bizarre choice of signing? If you are happy with a player as bad as Sam Gallagher getting regular game time, then presumably you are not serious in your top 6 hopes. Although you seem to have reverted following a brief blip in this regard to be again trying to empathise, understand and defend every decision Mowbray makes, even though we are hamstrung in rebuilding our squad lacking in many areas littered with crap the manager has signed, especially 2 dollopers which have wiped out the budget although your analaysis is simply "we bought the players we have bought."

Any hope that we are even thinking of signing a striker no matter how questionable his record is gives me the slightest hope that I wont have to endure watching Gallagher and Brereton providing no goal threat for the rest of the season!

As much as Freeman is a good player, we need so many playees before him. Thats why I dont want us to waste resources on loaning a young attacking midfielder, we need a goalscorer, at least one winger, a left back (which in turns frees up Downing to be a full time midfielder), a goalkeeper all of first team pedigree, as well as an alternative to the injury prone Nyambe and a centre back before even considering a number 10. Holtby and Downing can give us creativity from the centre.

I am not sure how you can be so sure or he could have proven that this is the case, but ultimately he is absolutely nowhere near Championship level so I suspect the answer is somewhere in between. I havent seen anything about him that makes me overly excited about the player he can become, I would suspect that League 2 may be the answer, because I am unconvinced that he could get regular football in League 1. I am not saying necessarily that he should be brought back but it is a little hypocritical and ironic that Scott Whartons potential return to help ease our lack of defensive depth has been rubbished, because he needs to "become a man" when he has played over 50 games in the football league and has recently won the player of the month in League 2, whereas Buckley, a player quite clearly far less physically capable in comparison is immediately in a position to be regularly featuring in the Championship, in Mowbrays mind.

Gallagher has mainly played up front for us, its a myth to suggest that hes spent all season toiling out wide, although the fact that he has played there at all is bizarre. As @RevidgeBlue says he is a poor player and ultimately, having had him before, the blame falls at Mowbray mainly for actually signing him in the first place.

The thing is, Breretons goals record (obviously at a very young age) was very infrequent at Forest. A video can make anyone look good, albeit I do appreciate that some attributes seem to be on show that have been nowhere to be seen here. I lose a lot of sympathy with Brereton because I am unconvinced that he is busting a gut to succeed, he often appears half arsed like he is going through the motions. Gallagher is really poor too but he does try his best. To be honest, I would take any sort of fee for either of them, a loan to come back a different player still seems a bit unlikely to me, I would be prepared to take my losses on either player as I dont see potential in either.

Impossible to get excited over the rest of the season to be honest. Our squad is horribly lacing without Dack and with mid table status almost certain and our FA Cup position meekly surrendered, our season feels like it has little riding on it already in early January.

Where is this from? Not a particularly encouraging record although better than Brereton and Gallagher on account of not being Brereton or Gallagher! So get him in.

Mowbray said he will be training Tuesday. Considering how bad everyone else is playing JRC may be worth a go. Cant see us winning tbh.

We created some chances but missed them all because our strikers are shit. Theres no way that we can do without signing a striker. Defence wasnt good enough either specifically that idiot of a keeper for both goals. For the first much of the blame goes to our absent midfield. Armstrong was our biggest threat but outstanding is a massive exaggeration. Was a depressing watch. Both teams had no quality and to say neither side is a bottom 3 Championship side says a lot about the league in general this season.

We need them all back and I hope they will be. Rothwells trial run in CM as you suggested was not a success. Regarding Bennett, that would be good news in terms of removing the option for Mowbray to play a player not up to it. Although I wouldnt be surprised to see him on crutches still playing!

Agreed. He was dreadful yet again. Glad to see you acknowledge a point you have previously disagreed with regarding anticipation. That being said, he actually did have 4 or 5 very good chances today and didnt take them. Useless. He is absolute shit, is he even better than Varney? I cant see him developing to anywhere close to a competent level and he shouldnt be anywhere near the team. Badly need a new striker.

Its more, people can clearly see that the player is well out of his depth, and can you believe it, are stating that on an internet messageboard.

Based on the players we have now, I would have to go with the following, we need some in this week: Walton Nyambe Lenihan Adarabioyo Downing Travis Evans Armstrong Holtby Rankin-Costello Graham Subs: Fisher, Williams, Johnson, Davenport, Chapman, Rothwell, Samuel Dont want to see Brereton, Gallagher, Bell or Bennett near the squad, all absolutely awful. Buckley nowhere near up to it either. Chapman poor in todays cameo, and Rothwell has been all season, and Samuel is shite full stop, but there is no alternative bar 2 strikers no better than Varney and Brown, so they can be on the bench. Ideally a new manager by next weekend too.

But he has only scored 2 goals. You cant use a header he had that hit the post and came away.

Embarassing yet again. Our squad is packed full of dismal players that without Dack are being shown as absolute shite. Gallagher missed 4 golden chances, absolute dog shit, no wonder he has the worst strike rate in the league. On par with Varney. Brereton is as out of place on a football pitch as anyone ive ever seen, we should check Ali Dias family tree. Armstrong the best of the 3 but still half arsed and the bit in the first half summed them up. Rothwell might as well have not played again, not good enough. Bennett often AWOL at right back, messing up simple passes and trying to play on injured. His injury is todays only positive. Bell technically dismal on the opposite side. Downing a class above on the ball but in general our midfield was non existent allowing them to break at will at our defence. And Leutwiler is embarassing and worse than Walton somwhow. Buckley is nowhere near up to it either, too soft and Chapman is not the same player. Just keeps running off the pitch. Time to go Mowbray.

Intriguing is one way of putting it!

That team makes me feel a bit sick. Brereton and Gallagher both starting sadly, at least one wide I suspect too. And them 2 at full back. Can some of these misfits actually start performing against a Birmingham reserve side? No Chapman either, suppose he didnt cost millions of pounds.

Has Rothwell? He has done nothing all season. Has Buckley? Only been in the first team picture for a lshort while and I havent seen much improvement. Did Raya? Went backwards to the point of being criticised and dropped. Has Bell? I have seen no improvement whatsoever, Mowbray has seemingly lost his patience with him. Armstrong? Not sure, suppose he has scored more this season so maybe. Dack has always been good but Mowbray deserves praise for that. I think Lenihan is more refined than when Mowbray joined too. Williams probably yes. Evans has always had spells of decent performances. Both maybes.

I think Bunn has done well to make that first list!

I think the thing he had going against him is that Conway and Gestede signed soon after and ultimately he was never going to get the number 10 position at the expense of one of our 2 20 goal strikers. That said, he would have been far more useless wide left compared to the awful Chris Taylor.

Thats ifs, buts and maybes though. His header hit the post and came back out, he missed the target. That last season he was still only scoring 1 in 4 and that season is references as some sort of benchmark for him, as if its proof that hes good enough. It was by far his best season to date and he was still decidedly average and didnt come close to winning player of the season in a dreadful campaign.

I think that second sentence could apply to either keeper. Leutwiler is awful too.