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I am not overreacting to any game. I didnt watch most of it. De Neve might have taken all of the set pieces at his old club but I havent read that it was a strength of his. If he isnt, then we need to keep looking for a good taker of set pieces as we dont have any.

So the wait is the club? At least we had some hilarious videos from the training camp.

I took what Ismael said as before he himself came to the club. Not a deflection from Gestede. Contract extensions have gone out of the window under him.

Gestede was here last season when Brittain didnt get offered a new deal. And hasnt managed to get any contracts over the line.

What makes you say that they have withdrawn?

I was basing it on you saying 3 including Miller. Then naming yet another squad with 5 new signings. As ever, you move the goalposts and start going off on tangents.

De Neve? Has he ever taken set pieces before? I only saw the first half hour yesterday but he put in one free kick that just went miles over everyone. Weve not had a decent set piece taker for a while. I would prefer Kargbo and Pickering to start down the left. Also, obviously not Montgomery on the right. Going into the season with Hedges starting was grimly predictable.

For me, the lack of transparency is the issue. Im sure there will be nothing groundbreaking but for the club to need so long to approve the minutes suggests some tampering.

Ismael doesnt seem happy about the contract situation.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-motivation-at-dundee-revealed-as-david-gray-gives-lewis-miller-transfer-update-after-big-win-5254858 Hibs' manager was asked about Miller. Usual non committal managerial spiel, but he did say that he is still injured. There seems to be some mystery about the injury. First Alan Nixon said 2 months which turned out to be badly wrong. It was reported by Elliott Jackson that he might be able to train this week, which would be ideal because he will almost certainly be first choice so if we could get him starting next weekend or at least in the cup game, then that would have been great. But clearly not. No reporters over here seem to have picked up on the Henriksson story.

Best of a bad bunch but not a set piece taker. We need to try and find one.

Who is taking the set piece?

It obviously depends on how good they are but signing players permanently is undoubtedly preferable so I would agree on that. You also open the door to selling them at considerable profit in the future and then continuing the process. Thats where we fall down here. I also have said in the past that we had under utilised the foreign markets. For a club like us that are unwilling to spend much money, its makes sense to look further afield. You look at the fees we are paying, they wouldnt even afford the players that Charlton are buying who have adopted a policy of signing many of the stand out players in League 1. So you have to look in places where other people arent looking, as everyone will know domestic players. More risk of signing total duds, but also more potential reward in signing players of which an equivalent domestically would be well out of budget. Those League 1 players are not guaranteed to step up themselves. The key thing though is that we have to accompany these type of players with a core of proven Championship quality players. We have a few of these already in Hyam, Travis and Tronstad in particular and we have to pay the going rate to keep them to give us the foundation of a team where we can then add these potential assets around.

Yeah Beck was certainly better than those 2. He was really good, not only going forward but defensively. His main issue is injury proneness and I dont think he is fit now. The 2 we have now are average Championship standard I would suggest. Not a position we need to look at though. Beck is top end when fit, would be very difficult to get someone as good.

The year when we nearly went down? All I am saying is that there is no point downplaying that some of the players we have lost were important players for us. We have people even implying that Brittain wasnt as good as he was. Most if not all teams will have lost players that were important to them last season.

The right back situation is an important one into next week. West Brom are really strong out wide. We cant be playing Montgomery there. Hes a young midfielder filling in and he will likely get run ragged. Miller seems unlikely to be fit even if hes signed imminently and he looks to be our most likely first choice so Alebiousu should be used there.

Brittain, Batth, Beck and Dolan were all part of our best 11 last season and will be huge misses. Weimann will also be a miss as a squad player who can pop up with goals. No point pretending otherwise.

West Brom have signed 3 players. Nat Phillips who had a really strong spell at Derby. Another defender from the MLS and a striker for big money from Scandanavia. They already have a strong core full of Championship proven players and a couple of really direct wide players.

So you still want 3 including Miller (so presumably once Miller and Henriksson sign, just another right winger). Ok. Doesnt explain the need to repeatedly type out your constantly changing "squad plans" which dont even match up to this. Wasting your time and constantly moving the goalposts.

You said you would be happy with 3 including Miller covering right back and centre back. I contested such a low number, you then totally moved the goalposts and created another "squad plan" with 5 new additions rather than the initial 3 you said you felt that we needed, yet continued with your initial argument. So you now dont think 3 is enough and youve added 2 more.

If we lost those 2 and maybe Tronstad as well, then we really would struggle. The Hyam contract situation certainly has gone cold again.

Especially as @BankEnd Rover points out. Ismael said we are close to 2, not 3.

The right winger wouldnt need to be one that goes on the outside but we still need an actual right sided player who is a natural attacking player. These are both central midfield players who seemingly have very little if any experience of playing away from that position. And one would be sat on the sidelines for months. If anything, with someone like De Neve on the left, a player who has spent a lot of time as a left back and who isnt someone who has scored many goals. It puts more onus on the right sided player offering a goal threat. We need an attacking right sided player (and a striker) and if your proposed plan is correct then we will be left short.

I get that there is a chance of them 2 both going. But there is no suggestion of any club being strongly interested in either. So it just seems a strange utilisation of limited funds. Also makes no sense to spend a chunk of a limited budget on a player who wont be fit for months. I wonder if Nixon is just not up to speed, he hasnt reported on this Swede so I wonder if we moved on. He holds his stories until Sunday so maybe its just out of date.

Theyve always done stuff like this. That doesnt come under communication improvements.