Just 6 points from our last 8 league games.

5 games to go and I can't see us taking more than 4 points (Reading & Luton) from those games - think there's a risk we'll lose the lot.

So that would be anything in the range of 6 to 10 points from our closing 13 games.  A shocking statistic underlining we aren't progressing and the need for managerial change. 

2 hours ago, K-Hod said:

I’m not a betting man, but I wouldn’t bet on us winning a game in what remains of this season. 
We look terrible.

Then bet on the opposition.  Proved very profitable for me this week!  

Mixed day.

Positives: pub, BBQ, won £120 this week backing against Rovers (Barnsley / Leeds), a quality red for tonight's film.

Negatives: watched the wretched match

IMO, anyone who still thinks Mowbray should remain Rovers' manager should book themselves an appointment at their nearest Priory Clinic.

Almost lost for words.

Leeds didn't really need to get out out of first gear - if they'd been really at it, we could have lost by 5 or 6.

IMO, Walton, Bennett, Johnson, Holtby, Rothwell, Gallagher, Samuel  should all feck off along with Waggott, Mowbray, Venus, Lowe and Benson.

Again, IMO, we are not progressing as a football club - we are going backwards quickly.  I think we have huge, huge, problems and have next to nothing to show for Mowbray's three and half year tenure.

Travis badly caught in possession for Leeds' first goal - never a foul

Walton badly positioned for Leeds 2nd goal

Walton a complete joke for Leeds' third goal

Doubt Gallagher could hit a cow's arse with a banjo. 

Who on earth was the lead commentator - IMO, based on some of his observations and comments, he's a joke who knows very, very little about football.

IMO, Walton should not play for Rovers again and Mowbray should be sacked tonight should the self purported man of integrity not resign.

I really think we are a complete and utter shambles as a football team.  Are we really a better team than we were under Kean or Coyle.  Those are the depths I sadly think we've plummeted to.

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I still got loads of time left in my lifetime to go the pub. 

I hope you are right Chaddy.

Sadly, none of us know what is around the corner.

Enjoy each day as if it were your last!

38 minutes ago, Gav said:

Thats an honest assessment from an honest manger, he understands and feels the frustration the same as the rest of us do.

We haven't had honesty since those ******* took us over, its always been about self preservation from Agnew to Shaw, from Coyle to ***t to Singh. 

What he's doing here is calling himself and the players out, we're not good enough to make the play offs, thats been clear for 2 seasons and he has to improve us or leave.

But in the clamber to replace Mowbray, have a think about the possible replacements - Can you find 1 manager willing to come who can build a Championship promotion side with no money? Warnock was the man, we had him and then lost him, another catastrophic decision, but you'll not find many more out there.

The last decision before Mowbray and Waggot relegated us, be careful what you wish for.

IMO, doing nothing and treading water, at best, is not an option.

Tennyson was right: "Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all."

I think we need to replace Mowbray.  A risk yes, all managerial appointments are a risk but we simply can't remain on the road to nowhere.

Mowbray in today's LT:

"We’re a long way from where I want us to be"

“We can all be disappointed but are we moving in the right direction? I hope so"

Think it gets worse by the day!

Three and a half years in situ and we are a "long way" from where he wants us to be.

Sounds like Mowbray himself doesn't know - "are we are moving in the right direction?"

So depressing in the middle of summer on a day when it's p1ssing down.

IMO, he simply has to go or the landscape will be unchanged, at best, in another three and a half years!

1 minute ago, Gav said:

Wee Dougie was the same, absolutely useless and a racist, need I go on?

How the hell are you by the way? Long time no speak 

Doing fine thanks - a bit of work here and there, caning the bookies and drinking too much wine!!!!

Hope all is good with you.

3 minutes ago, Gav said:

Like your mate Coyle you mean?

Who used to jump around and wave his arms about, doughnuts used to motivate the players.

He was as useless as your tips Mercer.

Is that the best you can offer Gav...............................................

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Conversely, do you have ever stop defending him? ?

Agree that Guardiola is not a comparison to take seriously.

It's about enthusiasm, alertness, motivation.

You needn't be one of the best coaches in the world but at least you can look a bit interested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there's more life on Mars than on our management / coaching bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Do you ever stop digging at Mowbray Mercer? Its constant. Have a day off for abit. 

We are mid table Championship club with lower half wage bill and you are comparing us to a club who have the best coach in the world and can sign anyone they want. Very unrealistic Mercer!

Chaddy dear boy, I was comparing the body language, enthusiasm and mental altertness of Pep with, IMO, a moribund Mowbray.

I think it's pretty obvious why our players don't seem fired-up for many of our games.

As for wage bill, Sheff U and Chris Wilder did pretty well on very limited resources.

Face up to it lad, we have, IMO, a manager taking us nowhere and I hate every minute of being on the road to nowhere.

26 minutes ago, rigger said:

I am not going to watch on Saturday. I am going to the pub instead

Likewise - table booked already!  How the 'simple' things in life are taken for granted and sorely missed.

Interesting watching City / Liverpool match and Pep.

He simply fizzes and it must transmit to the players.

Compare to, IMO, the moribund state of Mowbray, Venus and Lowe (does this guy ever, ever move !?!?). 

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Those figures are from a link I posted in the Championship thread which shows wages and income for every club in the Championship 2018/19 season..

Also Bielsa is on 6 million pounds a season. I bet Mowbray isnt even 1 million pounds per season

He's not worth even 1% (£10k) of that IMO.

24 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Who do you support? Can't be rovers if you "enjoy" us losing troll

Who do I support!?!

A Rover for almost 60 years, home, away and Europe.  What about you?

Certainly don't 'enjoy' Rovers losing but if they do and I can make a bob or two then what is wrong with that?

Backing against Rovers is not hoping they lose but rather sadly recognising, IMO, that we are a poor football team managed by a very, very poor manager.

Loved the halcyon days of Kenny when I backed Rovers virtually every match and made some damn good money.  Shame I can't do that now.

IMO, not a snowball's chance in hell of Rovers avoiding defeat here.

I think Leeds are everything we are not - fast, effervescent, playing good and attractive attacking football and they have a game plan!!!

Won almost £50 when the 'mighty' Barnsley embarrassed us so ploughed that and another £50 on to Leeds at 7/10.  I honestly think backing a Leeds' win is as near to a betting certainty as you can get -  fill your boots and then enjoy Saturday night!

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

And we sign defenders next seasons. You know my thoughts on how we spent the 5 mil. So why keep going over it time after time. 

You take your time integrate youngsters into the squad. You cannot just throw them in at the deep end. 

We see about the scouting network in the next few seasons. Your problem is you and others is that bringing in a new scouting system and network takes time to develop and get it work properly as any manager would tell you

It's b0ll0cks.

Bottom line is very simple - if you are good enough, you are old enough.

Ability is relative to the level you are at.

We've seen Phil Jones, Damien Duff, David Dunn etc all thrown in at the deep end and thrive.

On a bigger stage you've seen Mbappe playing in a World Cup Final at 19 and Alexander-Arnold playing in a Champions League Final at 19.  To remind you, ability is relative to the level you are at - and on that score, where are our 18, 19 year old lads good enough to play in our Championship 1st team.  Buckley, Butterworth, Carter, Rankin-Costello and Thompson etc are all going on 21 and if they were going to be 'big players' for us then they would have hammered down regular starting spots in our 1st team now.

I think it's a combination of two things - Mowbray's overly cautious approach and the fact the lads aren't really good enough. 

I think Mowbray refers to youngsters, even 'kids', like Lenihan at 26, Nyambe and Travis both at 22.  There are players at their ages who have more internationaL caps than those three have 1st team appearances!!!  

Just now, roversfan99 said:

He said at the one before that defenders are coming and yet a year on we are in exactly the same position that we were then. Judge on actions not on words. If Thompson cant even make a 20 man squad at this point with Bennett playing left back then he cant be that close.

Spot on.

Mowbray is most unlikely to say anything untoward about any player to a fan at one of these events.

This 'man of integrity' really does get me because, IMO, it is not justified based on what I have seen / heard from Mowbray.  Actions speak louder than words and no more so than what DID NOT happen following Mowbray's words in Blues last Feb.  

52 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said Mowbray has his faults. I have posted my thoughts on the Brereton and Gallagher signings over the past months and years. I did think Brereton signing was a good signing at the time from what I seen of the player at that time. Now if both signings have fired us to promotion then he would be hailed as a hero and masterclass Mowbray. Other teams have wasted money on Strikers over the last year but only hindsight time you this.  and if my aunt had a d!ck she'd be my uncle !!!

Why are so many people obsess who the captain is. Cos tbh it doesn't matter in all honest  Absolute b0ll0cks  - ask Dalglish, Ferguson and Wenger how important Sherwood, Keane and Adams were!!!!!

Yes the club is in much better state when he took over and no I disagree he has taken the club as far as he can. 

24 minutes ago, rigger said:

Free vaccine with every season ticket sold in September .

Offering immunology to hoof ball!

On 30/06/2020 at 14:20, chaddyrovers said:

Its seems that the EFL, PL and FA havent thought when next season will start. or about pre season. 

The club is trying sell this season shirts and other clothing items but Rovers need to next shirt on sale by August/September

It's not rocket science.

This season should all be wrapped up by end of July.

Players have only recently returned from almost three months off so I'd give them a week off when season begins and then gear up for new season to start on Sat 5 Sept..  Gives clubs five to 6 weeks to sort out contract issues and effect player trading.  If God created the heavens and earth in a mere six days then surely it's not beyond the wit of absurdly highly paid football personnel to do what they need to in the approximate six week gap between 2019/20 finishing and 2020/21 starting.

Can't see fans being allowed back into stadia until Jan 2021 so we are probably looking at half season tickets.  Family / business season tickets are firmly off my agenda whilst Mowbray is our manager - I simply refuse to 'invest' in a Rovers' team, IMO, which, in the main, serves up Sunday pub league football.

Wonder if Waggott and Mowbray etc will volunteer substantial pay cuts, as opposed to present deferrals, to help the club through what is going to be a very, very tricky financial period !?!?  The club's income during coronavirus has been lost, not deferred!

Interesting times ahead.

2 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Everybody loved mowbray when he was bought in (unless I'm miss remembering?) he was a breath of fresh air after Coyle and brought a degree of stability to the club. We were unlucky not to stay up that season and he bounced us straight back up. It's only since our return to the championship that he's frustrated and failed to kick on properly. 

I'm disappointed and frustrated with the club at the moment but we're still likely to finish top 10, I dont think for a second coyle would have got us anywhere near that. I think Tony's time is up but to suggest Coyle is a better choice I think is a bit far fetched. 

I didn't and I know several others within my circle of colleagues / friends who didn't!

6 hours ago, K-Hod said:

Whilst I agree with much of this post....

In your post I quoted, you said Coyle would be a better option, then, in this post, you go on to say that Coyle was a disaster and had to go. 
You can’t have it both ways.

You were also posting about winning money betting on Barnsley. You can surely see how that could wind people up in the aftermath of a loss?

I posted about Mowbray - "IMO, a rank bad manager. IMO, we are a feckin shambles - so much so, even Coyle would be a better option".

If you take it literally, it is contrary, however, the point I was trying to make, by comparing to Coyle, is just how feckin awful I think Mowbray is.  I do not think there is that much difference between the two. 

As for winning money by betting on Barnsley - the subject was raised by Mashed Potatoes who asked how much I'd put on us this time to which I replied I'd backed Barnsley with £25 at about 2/1.  Post match, I pointed out at least I had a positive for the night after clearing up almost £50.  Can't see anything wrong with that - every poster on here had the opportunity to bet on the match.  £50 winnings now on Leeds win at 4/5! 

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

There is literally no way Coyle would be a better option. Stop trolling please.

I am not trolling.

The point I'm trying to make is we are, IMO, only very marginally better off than when Mowbray 'entered the building' some three and a half years ago.

Under Mowbray's management:

• We got relegated - as he said in Blues Bar in Feb. last year, he was brought in to keep us up but failed
• IMO, we've played, in the main, awful football - we've no identity
• Our squad, IMO, is threadbare in key areas, with the odd exception devoid of quality and woefully unbalanced
• IMO, he's spunked some £20million+ (when wages are added in) up the wall on two non firing strikers - the club's financial position is a mess and this folly has made it even worse
• We are, IMO, light years away from being automatic promotion contenders and still not seriously contending for a top 6 stop  

IMO, Coyle was a disaster and had to go - in fact he should never have been appointed.

I honestly believe we've had three and a half miserable and wasted years under Mowbray.  Just what is the point of this man?!?!

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

Is it just me who hasn't got a cue what a false 9 actually is. It seems to me like another example of Mowbray over complicating things. Just stick a a centre forward through the middle, it's not rocket science.

Spot on.

An analogy - a false sh@g is a wet dream!

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

currently back him. 

 

For how long and why?

Would you ever sack him and under what circumstances?