1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Progress being made by us under Mowbray. 

 

59 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

 

Considering the injuries we've had this season to key players I'm more than happy to have reached 60 points with still three games to play. 

IMO, Mowbray sells bullsh1t and mediocrity and, sadly, some buy it!

Progress - our squad is unbalanced, threadbare and with the exception of 3 or 4 players, badly short on quality.  At best, IMO, we will only finish marginally ahead of where we were last season.  If you think that's progress..................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for injuries to key players - all part and parcel of the game.  All teams suffer injuries.  That's why you have a squad of players.  If Mowbray hadn't spunked almost £20million (including wages) up the wall on two, IMO,  diabolical strikers, there would have been more resource to have a stronger squad with more quality in depth to cover for injuries.

In my book, we are treading water at best and I think we will be in for a rude awakening next season when, IMO, Mowbray's very, very poor player trading record will catch up with us and really bite us on the arse. 

 

2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Yes, lost what you had won, therefore crashing and burning. 

Yes ,of course WBA are overwhelming favourites. Tipping them hardly makes you Mystic Meg. Now let's hope you are wrong, which we have all seen with great hillarity on many occasions! 

Might be better if you refrain from this MB until you learn to spell - there are some good online courses available these days!

Sadly, for Rovers, I haven't been wrong about Brereton and Gallagher who I said, IMO, were two donkeys almost from the day we signed them. 

Also, I've always maintained that, IMO, Mowbray is not a good manager and was the wrong choice for us and would not get us anywhere near the PL.  I still think that will prove to be the case.

HILARIOUS isn't it!

7 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

After crashing and burning so badly the other night, you certainly need a win. Hopefully not though. 

Only lost what I'd won in the previous matches!

If that's "crashing and burning"............................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think "crashing and burning" is when you spunk £20million+ (including wages) up the wall on two strikers who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

Fully expect WBA to win tomorrow with the winnings big enough to buy 2 nice quality reds for dinner tomorrow night.

Race for 6th spot is so unpredictable - so many unexpected results.

You can get 25/1 on Rovers for top 6 finish - worth having a punt for the 'he can do no wrong brigade' (get your wallet open Chaddy).

IMO, more than a bridge too far for Rovers and I expect WBA to bring us crashing down to earth - we've conceded 9 goals in our last 4 games whilst WBA have netted 9 goals in their last 3 games.  Lumped on WBA at 5/6. 

17 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Dan Pike, Luke Brennan, Zak Gilsenan and D'Margio Wright-Phillips in the Under 18's all look very promising indeed. Could become very big players in the future.  True, equally. I COULD win the lottery tonight.

Joe Rankin-Costello proved yet again last night that he will be a very big player for us. John Buckley, Joe Rankin-Costello, Ryan Nyambe, Lewis Travis, Darragh Lenihan are all players who have played in our youth teams and are now in the first team.  JRC could become a decent Championship player for us - IMO, if he was going to become a 'big player' for us, he would be a 1st team regular now at the age of 21 this month.  Buckley another going on 21 to whom same comments as JRC apply.  Nyambe, Travis and Lenihan good Championship players but could they step up to the PL? - certainly, IMO, not top 8 PL material as evidenced by the fact they are still with Rovers.

If you do truly go and watch the 23's you'll see we have a pretty decent side, competing against some of the best in the country. Jack Vale is breaking through, Dan Butterworth is a baller and if he recovers from his injury will get first team game time soon, Joe Grayson can pass a ball really nicely and shows promise. I find it a very dower overview to say our academy is overrated.  Yep, I do go and see teams below 1st team level.  Big season for Vale coming up - if he is going to become a 'big player' for us then I expect him to force his way into 1st team next season and score goals.  Butterworth and Grayson, very much doubt they will become Championship players.

You say "I find it a very dower overview to say our academy is overrated".

Would suggest you need success criteria to measure your thoughts.

Who was the last 'big player' to emerge from our academy since Phil Jones over 10 years ago!?!?

I think we've only ever produced three 'ballers' (to quote you) -Duff, Dunn and Jones.

We have three regulars in our first team from Academy.  Lenihan, Travis (who was only introduced as Mowbray had run out of options!) and Nyambe who again only recently seems to have nailed down a spot as Mowbray seemed to think Bennett was a better option!!!

Sadly , IMO, we have a manager who seems reluctant to give our younger player a REAL chance.  Might be that most of them aren't really good enough but the only way you find out is by playing them...............Travis being the best example.  We lost Jack O'Connell, a very good PL centre back, and he was not given a chance - criminal was that.

So, all in all, I think the return from the Academy has been very, very average at best.  As a bare minimum, I think you should be producing at least one 'baller' every three years and a regular who breaks through to the 1st team every season.

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

How much money did you put on Cardiff win? 

As you say, read my previous posts!

Mercer 1 - 1 Bookies.  All square in the last 10 days.

25 minutes ago, Butty said:

Hahahahahaha cheers Merce! Get in there you bluesssssss 

Just got in from a meeting.

Shocked!

C'est la vie!

Reached for the cognac.

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do you go and watch any of the games at under 23's or 18's? 

Yep.  Why?

IMO, our Academy is overrated.  Where are the 18 or 19 year olds who should become 'big players' for us.

We have a crop of players going on 21 who I don't think are really good enough.  Having dais that, you only find out by giving them a feckin chance.

And you want Mowbray to keep his job.  Strewth!

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

Potentially as many 5 players starting tonight who will not contracted to the club in a months time. Why is he so afraid to have a look at under 23's players and see if they could save him dipping into the transfer market. 

IMO, it's all about self preservation and trying to secure a top 10 finish so he can sell 'progress' to Pune.

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Haven't we been over this Stuart before? Why don't you accept that other posters have a different view of Mowbray and the job he has done then yourself. Are you going to accept it? 

Do you mean agents? 

If so, Gallagher's agent is crown football and Brereton's agent is Wasserman 

Here is a list of Rovers player's agent

https://www.transfermarkt.com.hr/blackburn-rovers/berateruebersicht/verein/164

Seemingly, a huge majority (almost 80%) want him out!

There is not a single person in my circle of Rovers' fans who wants Rovers to keep Mowbray.

4 hours ago, JHRover said:

Read Mowbray's comments today and weep.

I think we are back in late Bowyer/Paul Lambert territory with a wall of silence from India, no communication and likely no budget.

Mowbray isn't completely daft and will know what to expect. His comments are to me of a man who is preparing the fanbase for an unpleasant summer with little to no money.

I spent all last summer complaining about using the loan market to fill crucial positions like GK and CB. I was worried back then that we would face this situation yet many told me I was overreacting and there was nothing wrong with using loans if it saved us money.

Well here we are. The spine of the team set to depart, a manager who is a failure in the transfer market and owners who are back to not communicating.

IMO, if the Venky's are p1ssed off with Mowbray and they thought there was still a future with their Rovers venture, Mowbray would be axed and replaced.

You refer to "a wall of silence from India, no communication and likely no budget".  

IMO, given the above, the alarms bells should be ringing - are Venky's about to call time on Rovers having seen almost £200million disappear down the toilet!? 

13 hours ago, Gav said:

Dack is a very good player, sorely missed, no doubt about that.

But the players around him need to be improved, significantly, we have 3 quality players, the rest are absolute dross.

Over to you Tony, you have 10 games to prove people wrong.

Don't understand you Gav.

The fact we have so little quality and "the rest are absolute dross" is down to one man only, Mowbray.

He shouldn't even be in charge tonight never mind given 10 games next season 

44 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

The much fabled overseas scouting network, I do fear that you are going to be disappointed by it's results Chaddy. Or rather a lack of results.

I think so too!

My money is on us signing  a French Brereton, a Spanish Gallagher and an Italian Walton!!!!!!!!!!!!!

41 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

It can, but more properly it ought to be the foundations on which to build success.

Now is that likely under Venkys? Perhaps not, but this last 3 years is the closest we've come to being something like a normal club since they arrived & should not be thrown away just because the grass might be greener on the other side. 

Foundations?

Under Mowbray's tenure, the club has probably lost close to £60million.  Mowbray has spunked fees and wages of £20million+ up the wall on Brereton and Gallagher, the effects will still be felt in the accounts for the next 2 or 3 years.

We have an unbalanced and threadbare squad, in the main bereft of quality with exceptions that can be counted on one hand - a squad that will need major surgery in the close season.

As for player development, where are the 18 / 19 year olds (the next Phil Jones, Damien Duff, David Dunn etc) banging on the first team door who will become 'big players' for us (other clubs produce them)?   We have half a dozen lads going on 21 or so who some folk rave about, however, they have failed to become first team players.

In the main, I think our football is dire.  IMO, we have no identity.  To think fans called Big Sam who left us pushing for the top 8 in the PL.

If you seriously think these are foundations, I'm just glad Mowbray didn't build on feckin sand!!!

4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Supporters support - not vent

and sheep follow sheep..........................................

2 hours ago, Atko's Engine said:

I've admitted I was underwhelmed when TM was announced, but overall since the day he arrived he's done more good than bad IMO and I've been pleasantly surprised, without being put on the edge of my seat or being part of a cult. 

This club needs stability right now, in these most uncertain of times. 

Stability equals inertia at best.  

IMO, It reeks of an ambitionless regime seeking self preservation.

Phil Neal used to bang on about stability at Bolton - I think it's a con, a cover up for incompetence and the inability to move things forward and achieve bigger and better things.

What the club needs right now is a manager with real ambition, drive and a can do attitude.  Enough of this, IMO, 'slow, slow build and moving in the direction' - it's total cr@p.

12 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

Thanks JH, it's an extensive list but I'm sorry, most of the names on it are unsuited either due to being in better existing positions (Farke, Stam, Jokanowicz, Garcia), unlikely to work for Venkys due to personality or wage demands (Hughton, Hughes, Warnock, much like Lambert decided he couldn't), or are no better than Mowbray IMO either in terms of their achievements or the style of football they advocate, or both (Neil, Poyet, Karanka, Pulis, Johnson, Stendel, McCarthy, Carvalhal).

I get the desire to be ambitious, but we're not in 1991 with Jack Walker at the helm. We have to be realistic about who we can get. Sorry Waco, that means Gerrard is off the scale too. 

At the same time, so many names on that list would be frying pan into the fire stuff, and IMO represent change for change's sake but without any wow factor. Yes one or more of them could change things for the better, but it would be a lottery which one amongst them that might be.

As I said in a previous post (possibly on another thread), the only change most people on both sides would get behind is moving TM upstairs and making DJ 1st team manager with his own coaching staff. It would be a move that would promote stability whilst also injecting fresh ideas at 1st team level, and I think most agree the U23s were pleasing to the eye under his guidance, as well as successful.

Just what has Mowbray to offer as a DOF?

IMO, dinosaurian, no judge of talent and a bloke who's told us he doesn't / can't negotiate with players!

I'm pretty certain any new man would not want Mowbray poking his nose in.  I think he's had his chance and blown it.  Three and a half years down the line and we are barely better than when he took over.  Last three performances, one could be forgiven Kean / Coyle were back in town.  Whoever succeeds Mowbray has, IMO, one helluva job on their hands owing to, IMO, Mowbray's incompetence not least demonstrated by the Brereton / Gallagher / Raya / Walton shambles.

I think Mowbray's mindset to these last few games will all be about self preservation and finishing as high as he can rather than playing some development / U23 players to see what they can do.

Agree with Tom above, as a minimum Walton, Johnson and Gallagher should be dropped - in fact, IMO, loanee, calamity Walton should not start another game for Rovers.  Can any of the development / U23 players do any worse than those three?

Can see absolutely nothing other than a Cardiff win.  So confident of this, I've put all my my £130 winnings for betting against Rovers last week on a Cardff win at just a little better than evens.  For those who say you shouldn't bet against Rovers then I would say why not?  If we are so poor and it's easy money then you would be silly not to.

To be honest, if it would result in Mowbray's departure, I would take a hiding and defeat in each of our last five matches.

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Sounds like he going nowhere and Venkys are happy with him. 

IMO, total bullsh1t and an insult to the intelligence of supporters.

If anyone buys that nonsense then I suggest they look up their local Priory clinic.

12 hours ago, Kamy100 said:

It is going to be a summer of balancing the books.

With our biggest asset (Dack) not being sellable because of his injury, it will probably mean one or two off Lenihan, Travis or Arma having to be sold to help balance the books.

After that we are looking at freebies, loans and signing up and coming players from lower leagues.

We don't have the money for a major facelift for the squad.

Balancing the books is impossible unless we were able to flog players for some £20million+ each season.

Sadly, I think we are financially goosed.

The three players you mention are decent but NOT PL players.

We really are in a mess and given the impact of coronavirus on worldwide economies, it would be no surprise if the Raos did not call time on their, IMO, disastrous venture into English football.

I was talking to a former colleague of mine this week who is a corporate insolvency specialist with one of the 'big boys' and he fears for the football industry in particular.

I think Rovers are more vulnerable now to financial insolvency and collapse than they ever have been in their history.

11 hours ago, Stuart said:

Absolutely boracic lint and yet an extra months wages handed out to players who don’t play!

It is appalling management.

IMO, Waggott and Mowbray have no defence - absolutely shambolic.

Think Mowbray needs drumming out of our club as soon as possible along with Venus, Lowe and Benson.

IMO, a dinosaurian manager with precious little to offer.

Some say make him DOF - please, give your heads a wobble.  IMO, would be an unmitigated disaster and hold us back even further.

It's a results game and three and a half years on, we are barely better off than when Mowbray arrived. 

IMO, our squad is flimsy, unbalanced and, in the main, bereft of quality.  I think our football is dire - we have no identity. 

This week with our performances, you could be forgiven for thinking Kean or Coyle were still in charge - what an indictment. 

Someone has a huge, huge job to do and much of that, IMO, is down to Mowbray's very, very poor player trading and generally appalling management (team selection, organisation, tactics, substitutions and mental and physical fitness). 

The decision is a no brainer.

We need a hungry, dynamic and innovative staff to at least give us a semblance of hope and optimism.

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wasnt the question tho was it? ?

The most important employee of any football club is the manager.

He makes or breaks a club.

Burnley as a club have been transformed by the money earned in the PL and their success there is all down to Dyche.

A football a manger is therefore worthy of his hire.  Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Question was How much money do you honestly think we pay manager as a club under the current owners? 

 

Well for a start, I'd slash Waggott's reported £300k to £100k and throw that into the pot.  If Waggott's not happy with that then good luck finding another job and I think he'd need it!  Better still, just get rid of him!!!

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The Brentford goalkeeper keeper who isnt there now. He left before Christmas. Raya still makes mistakes even now. 

Well he was there when Raya joined!

Even the best goalies in the world make mistakes as Alisson has shown with Liverpool.

Brentford have conceded fewer goals than any other team in the Championship - I suspect Raya is doing pretty well for them!!!