A question Chaddy. Under what specific circumstances would you sack Mowbray in the summer eg he doesn't get us promoted, he doesn't finish top six, he doesn't improve on last season's position?

FFS Chaddy, this is the problem! It's like we go round and round in circles. It will then be 'we showed good form in the final few games, let's give him the window' which then becomes 'let's give him a dozen games to see how much difference his new signings make' and then it becomes 'let's see where we are at Christmas' and then 'let's give him the January window and review at the end of the season'. IMO, it's mind numbing bury your head in the sand nonsense. If my head wasn't so feckin delicate I'd be banging it on my desk!

Think something is fundamentally wrong. We are now struggling even against the type of teams we were hammering earlier in the season. Last three games against Owls, Stoke and Rotherham have given us 1, win, 1 draw and 1 loss with just three goals scored. Nine points out of nine had to be the target with 7 the minimum acceptable return. As @RevidgeBluesaid above we have the players to produce the magic (as Rothwell's goal showed today). IMO, in the main, our football has been dire recently - horrible to watch. Mowbray has no excuses. Yes, we have injuries but so do all other teams. Our squad is big and even with a number of injuries there should be enough there to see us with a bigger points return and higher up the table. It all comes down to the manager who needs to set up the team to get the best out of the players available to him. IMO, on this score, Mowbray fails abysmally. Mowbray is right - we are on a journey. Sadly, I think he must have read 'Women in Love' by DH Lawrence “That’s the place to get to—nowhere. One wants to wander away from the world’s somewheres, into our own nowhere.”

Good stuff Jim! I'll send my bank details so you can deposit my 10% commission of £878.70 into my bank! Hope the New Year is even more profitable for you.

Lost today Jim, got to take the rough with the smooth. Up until a couple a weeks ago, Rovers were making me plenty. This season, my net position with Rovers is +£478 - not to be sneezed at. Merry Christmas!

Good point! TBH, a tad delicate - didn't find the bedroom until 3.00 am today!

Sh@gging not on today's agenda!!!

You can still get 6/1 on Rovers' win. Bang on if you can.

Win coming here. Sadly, will disguise, IMO, a lot of the dire stuff Mowbray's team serves up. Think he's a lucky bugger who just gets a result when he needs it from a self preservation point.

Can we send Douglas back on 1 Jan ? No good Mowbray belly aching and asking for more funds for defenders - shouldn't have signed Downing.

Wow - instant return, almost! COYB

No pre match bets today. Just gone £50 Rovers win at 10/1 and £10 2-1 at 10/1. Definitely. betting with the heart fuelled by red wine! Mowbray's a luck bugger.

Huge risk introducing Dack - very, very little game time. Hope he doesn't break down.

Happy Christmas - wishing everyone a healthy festive season.

IMO, you are spot on - I've said this on a number of occasions. I think it's all about self preservation with Mowbray and looking after number one. We need rid and bloody fast.

Eat lots of cherries and drink lots of water and should mitigate your gout! Love Sancerre and Chablis and there will be a few bottles on the table to go with our Christmas Day turkey!

Think we'd almost double our goal tally with Hird and Bailey as our full backs. Who can forget their marauding forays - their directness and ability to run at pace with the ball was superb (like Rothwell on speed!). Faz and 'Killer' couldn't half defend and underrated as footballers. Those were happy days!

Yep, Aldi wines are pretty good vfm and it's noticeable they are pushing out the boundaries in terms of their range on wines / spirits and beginning to venture into some of the more 'premium' (relative for Aldi) lines. Love the Roku and rounded off perfectly with a ginger garnish! Beverages much more interesting than Mowbray's Rovers at the moment!

Paul Cook was a tongue in cheek suggestion for the all things Burnley loving @chaddyrovers! Having said that, I think he's streets ahead of Mowbray! I think Pearson would be like a breath of fresh air.

Paul Cook is available and would get us up!

Chaddy, you are losing your credibility in arguing about days as opposed to years. Just finishing off a Barolo then off to bed.

FFS, it's 13 months - don't split hairs. What difference does a month make. Mowbray is just days short of being here for 4 YEARS.

Well you should be very fit as our performance against Rotherham, IMO, absolutely stunk! Happy dog walking then.

We all want attractive football, however............................... Both Stoke and M'boro were in acute danger of relegation last season. O'Neill and Warnock kept them up - something Mowbray failed to do when appointed Rovers' manager O'Neill and Warnock have been in charge of their respective clubs for less than 12 months and after saving them from relegation, they have made them harder to beat and are both 5 points better off than Rovers. Mowbray has had 4 years at it with Rovers and in less than a quarter of that time, O'Neill and Warnock have got their clubs into better positions and, IMO, are more likely to get into the play offs. Like Mark Hughes did with us, O'Neill and Warnock are first making their teams difficult to beat and then with better players (remember our progression to the likes of Bentley, Bellamy, Santa Cruz etc) the style will come as well as the results - that is evolution whereas Mowbray's evolution, IMO, is just bullsh1t for the owners and about self preservation. And, let us not forget, IMO, Mowbray's teams have served up some of the most dire football I've seen with Rovers over his 4 years in charge. I would take O'Neill and Warnock every day of the week over Mowbray as would, I suspect, the majority of Rovers' fans. I think the 'happy clappers' will be playing the same tune in years to come as Mowbray consolidates us as a mid table Championship team at best.

Spot on. I've always maintained that Mowbray, IMO, has never demonstrated as Rovers' manager that he can sort out and organise a team to defend. A team defends from front to back with all players knowing their role - Spurs are an excellent example of this under Mourinho.